You're Favorite Sith Lord

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Originally posted by kamhal
Proofs that Revan owns the exile:

"The Force flows through you like no student we have ever seen"- Vrook Lamar

I'm not denying that Revan was stronger in the force than the Exile before Kotor 2. We're talking about Kotor 2 Exile here. A Jedi who grew more powerful with every kill, a Jedi who achieved equally (if not more ) impressive feats.

Originally posted by kamhal
And guess what, master VANDAR, the grand master of the jedi order stated that the exile was an AVERAGE jedi, which the ability to easily create bonds. Also, wasn't kreia the same person who said that Tulak Horde would own all the jedi?

Look Kamhal I've already addressed arguments like these you need only search and you'll find them but I'll entertain you. This average Jedi was stronger than the very same Jedi who called her average before the Mando wars.

Second if you want quotes, Kotor 2 also stated that "the Masters spoke highly of you, of your skills in combat." So the Exile's combat abilities were spoken of highly by her masters.[/B][/QUOTE]

Lastly, there was nothing average about the Exile in Kotor 2. She grew stronger with every kill, could learn force forms and lightsaber techniques by brief observation etc etc

Originally posted by kamhal
In case you haven't notice kreia seems a bit bias in his statements about almost everybody around. And she loves the exile. Also, this "greatest student" doesn't need to be "strongest in the force" or whatsoever. Besides, it's widely known that Revan had several masters, so in some way, Revan had no master. Perhaps the only one who can be called master from revan was zhar, as far as we understand from KOTOR, so this quote means nothing.

So if I'm getting your point. Kreia is biased towards the Exile? She's also biased towards Revan before you forget. Greatest doesn't have to involve strongest, but it well could. It's not conclusive proof of anything, but it supports my argument.

Zhar was his master for a time, but Kreia was his first master the one who knew Revan better than anyone, she was the one who oversaw his development form padawan to knight, and the one that was blamed for poisoning him with her teachings. She made the greatest impression on Revan's life. "He came to me when he wanted to know ho to leave the Jedi".

Originally posted by kamhal
By the way, let's not forget who were the 2 greatest jedis of the order during the mandalorian wars: Revan and Malak. The exile was merely a general as any other jedi knight around, not even noticed until guys like Revan and Malak came out of scene.

Haha! Let's not forget that the Exile wasn't in Republic space during Kotor 1 as she had been Exiled, and would likely not have been mentioned. Based on Kotor 2, the Exile is easily greater than Malak.

Also, lets not ignore the FACTS, the Exile didn't exist during Kotor 1. So this argument is VERY flawed, given the REAL world circumstance that quite obviously override FICTION.

Originally posted by kamhal
Also, I doubt the exile can beat Revan when she was defeated by Sion in Koriban and only won in Malachor due to mental attrition when Sion himself was 1 of the sith lords in the Sith Academy (stated by Sion himself) when Revan killed Master Uthar, the head of the academy and so a stronger sith then sion, together with his apprentice Yuthura, at the same time, after single-handed killed 2 tentareks. I also recall that Revan went through the entire academy and i don't remember that sion could do a thing to him....

Ha! Sion never defeated the Exile on Korriban, the Exile made a retreat because she could not win, not because she was beaten (at no point was she beaten). Second, In Kotor 1 Sion would not have been the Lord of Pain, a Sith Lord who is virtually immortal. So a highly doubt Uthar would have the tools to defeat an immortal like Sion.

Sion is above Uthar and Yuthura by Kotor 2, don't be ridiculous. Thirdly, you can't make such an argument while gleefully ignoring the real world circumstances/reasons. Sion being a student of the academy is just back story, a way to fit him into the fictional setting and give him an origin of sorts. You can't also ignore that by Kotor 1, Sion didn't actually exist.

So making arguments out of these unchangeable circumstances, isn't logical. You can't just say because character x wasn't a feature here, he must be weaker than character b. It doesn't work like that. Sion is simply more powerful than either Uthar and Yuthura, and not being mentioned in Kotor 1, doesn't change that, given that he COULDN'T have been mentioned in Kotor 1.

And no one is saying Revan isn't more powerful than Sion, but he too would be hard pressed to defeat Sion without knowing his weakness.

Originally posted by kamhal
Ah, and by the way, notice how Malak was the sith lord, darth bandon his apprentice (stated as been chosen from all the siths of the academy by malak himself; again sion was not the choice) and Uthar was the Head of the academy. All of them were technically, let's say, superior to a "regular" sith lord like sion. So, technically, even darth bandon could probably give a hell of a time to the exile (he is noticed to have killed several jedis from the exile's league)..

See above. You can't make arguments like these because there are real world circumstances that absolutely prevent Sion form ever being mentioned or placed in Kotor 1. The only reason he's there in the continuity is because Kotor 2 gave him that particular origin. THere's no evidence that Bandon, Yuthura or Uthar are above a Sith Lord that is virtually immortal and who's hatred and will power keep him "alive" despite what appears to be "physical" death.

Originally posted by kamhal
Also, what Canderous, this OLD war veteran canderous said was that the exile, in a way like revan was before, was also a worthy warrior for the mandalorians. But canderous, the young, proud, strong and soldier skull-crusher canderous, the one on his prime, stated that revan was the SINGLE greatest WARRIOR the galaxy had ever met. And wasn't the exile a jedi from the Mandalorian Wars too?)..

How is this even a credible argument? Mandalore in Kotor 2 is by his own admission smarter and wiser. By his own admission, he was "stupider" in Kotor 1. So obviously what he says with his acquired greater wisdom, would naturally hold more water. And who are you to discredit the same characters quotes based on nothing but opinion?

Your argument has no logic, I hope you know that. How would Mandalore's perception lessen with the influx of greater wisdom and insight? If anything it would increase, meaning you argument has been defeated.

The Exile was noted as a feared and respected general in the Mando wars, based on the accounts of a few Mando war veterans from Dxun.

Originally posted by kamhal
Ah, and revan bliended Adjunta Pall with his sheer force power, defeated the legendary Yusanis, Mandalore the Ultimate, Malak, Calo Nord and Bandon, etc. Ah, and he killed a captain/admiral/man on his ship with a force choke in, guess what, 2 seconds (literally). Impressive? I think so.

So Exile>Revan? 😆

No, canonically Revan convinced Ajunta Pall to abandon the dark side, nothing more. Yusanis was a non-force sensitive (substantially less than an average Jedi). Yusanis was a skillful (we assume) fighter but nothing else. Brainna is seen wishing her father was faster, signifying that his lack of force sensitivity cost him against Revan.

The same for Mandalore and Calo, both are non force sensitives. Bandon is a joke, don't be ridiculous. Malak was Revan's biggest scalp.

The Exile defeated Kreia, Sion, Nihilus, Atris, Azkul (who unlike Calo and Yusanis trained in Jedi Killing techniques in the Sith academy). The Exile was also noted to be greater than any Mandalorian of her age, the dark sided Exile (non canon) did more and was even more powerful as she uses her wound consciously.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
That's just the point. YOu don't care about facts, but what suits you. Canderous is talking about the present while the exile quote is also in the present. SEeing as how Revan was the superior tactician and single handidly took the war to the Mandalorians, and had the Exile as a general, there is NOTHING that suggests the exile is anywhere near Revan's equal. Again, you look like a fool bringing up nonsense.

How is their rank in the Republic war machine proof of anything. Is a general a better fighter than a private simply because of his rank? You don't know the meaning of logic. The significance of Mandalore's quote is that it's a comparison between Revan and the Exile, it is Mandalore admitting to the Exile that he beleives him to be equally as impressive a Jedi as Revan.

I'm not ignoring anything here, your the one refusing to recognize a point when it smacks you across the face.

I don't care for biased assesments I care for the facts, man up to the supporting evidence and come up with an argument or just shut up.

Originally posted by Allankles
I'm not denying that Revan was stronger in the force than the Exile before Kotor 2. We're talking about Kotor 2 Exile here. A Jedi who grew more powerful with every kill, a Jedi who achieved equally (if not more ) impressive feats.

Except again, her feats are NOT more impressive nor even on par. Just because you want to believe it doesn't make it fact.

Look Kamhal I've already addressed arguments like these you need only search and you'll find them but I'll entertain you. This average Jedi was stronger than the very same Jedi who called her average before the Mando wars.

Except you're just like Noobaris. You type a bunch of illogical nonsense and call it an argument.

Second if you want quotes, Kotor 2 also stated that "the Masters spoke highly of you, of your skills in combat." So the Exile's combat abilities were spoken of highly by her masters.

And yet she was called an average Jedi, so your point is moot. Everybody from KOTOR verbally fellated Revan.

Lastly, there was nothing average about the Exile in Kotor 2. She grew stronger with every kill, could learn force forms and lightsaber techniques by brief observation etc etc

This pitiful argument was destroyed by Nai and myself, yet you still post it. Gameplay mechanics are not canon, shut up already.

So if I'm getting your point. Kreia is biased towards the Exile? She's also biased towards Revan before you forget. Greatest doesn't have to involve strongest, but it well could. It's not conclusive proof of anything, but it supports my argument.

Except Kreia wanted the death of the force and the exile represented that, so she was biased.

Haha! Let's not forget that the Exile wasn't in Republic space during Kotor 1 as she had been Exiled, and would likely not have been mentioned. Based on Kotor 2, the Exile is easily greater than Malak.

Except she wasn't even comparable to Malak either. You make up this random bullshit and pass it off as fact, and wonder why you get laughed at and pwned. Her abilities didn't close to Malak. This is why Revan and Malak were #1 and #2 while she was a petty general.

Also, lets not ignore the FACTS, the Exile didn't exist during Kotor 1. So this argument is VERY flawed, given the REAL world circumstance that quite obviously override FICTION.

Except her existence in kotor 1 was made known in kotor 2 so your point is moot.

How is this even a credible argument? Mandalore in Kotor 2 is by his own admission smarter and wiser. By his own admission, he was "stupider" in Kotor 1. So obviously what he says with his acquired greater wisdom, would naturally hold more water. And who are you to discredit the same characters quotes based on nothing but opinion?

Another idiot attempt at logic.

Your argument has no logic, I hope you know that. How would Mandalore's perception lessen with the influx of greater wisdom and insight? If anything it would increase, meaning you argument has been defeated.

Ahahah the one getting wtfpwned in every debate is telling someone else they have no logic.

The Exile was noted as a feared and respected general in the Mando wars, based on the accounts of a few Mando war veterans from Dxun.

Yet she doesn't hold a candle to Revan.

No, canonically Revan convinced Ajunta Pall to abandon the dark side, nothing more. Yusanis was a non-force sensitive (substantially less than an average Jedi). Yusanis was a skillful (we assume) fighter but nothing else. Brainna is seen wishing her father was faster, signifying that his lack of force sensitivity cost him against Revan.

LOL.. Another opinion passed off as fact. Your stupidity knows no bounds.

The Exile defeated Kreia, Sion, Nihilus, Atris, Azkul (who unlike Calo and Yusanis trained in Jedi Killing techniques in the Sith academy). The Exile was also noted to be greater than any Mandalorian of her age, the dark sided Exile (non canon) did more and was even more powerful as she uses her wound consciously. [/B]

The exile defeated Nihilus with the help of companions and that fight was unknown. The exile defeated Sion by talking him to death. The exile defeated Kreia because she didn't go all out. So she won all of these fights under circumstances and it shows absolutely nothing about her combat abilities. So you lose...Again

Originally posted by Allankles
How is their rank in the Republic war machine proof of anything. Is a general a better fighter than a private simply because of his rank? You don't know the meaning of logic. The significance of Mandalore's quote is that it's a comparison between Revan and the Exile, it is Mandalore admitting to the Exile that he beleives him to be equally as impressive a Jedi as Revan.

I'm not ignoring anything here, your the one refusing to recognize a point when it smacks you across the face.

I don't care for biased assesments I care for the facts, man up to the supporting evidence and come up with an argument or just shut up.

Nobody on this forum cares about your "assessments". You've been pwned since page 1. You should stop typing right about now, Noobaris #2.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Nobody on this forum cares about your "assessments". You've been pwned since page 1. You should stop typing right about now, Noobaris #2.

You do that. Using other people's opinion to try and justify your stand convinces me you don't have much of a spine here. You haven't come up with a single argument to refute my own. So yes, I too would be glad if you stopped wasting your time with regurgitated bs, bs with little or no substance behind it.

Originally posted by Allankles
You do that. Using other people's opinion to try and justify your stand convinces me you don't have much of a spine here. You haven't come up with a single argument to refute my own. So yes, I too would be glad if you stopped wasting your time with regurgitated bs, bs with little or no substance behind it.

No, I use other opinions because you're living in your own reality where you have an actual argument and everyone else is wrong. Since you are wrong here, I'm just letting you know that your arguments have thoroughly been destroyed and you are wasting your time with your nonsense, since none of it holds any water.

In the moment i read that a force user gets stronger in the force by killing another force user I simply quit from this debate.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except again, her feats are NOT more impressive nor even on par. Just because you want to believe it doesn't make it fact.

Except again it doesn't matter what you think, when you can't come up with an actual argument. Such statements hold no water by themselves.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except you're just like Noobaris. You type a bunch of illogical nonsense and call it an argument. .

Except this remains irrelevant. It does nothing to address the debate.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
And yet she was called an average Jedi, so your point is moot. Everybody from KOTOR verbally fellated Revan. .

And yet she was compared favourably to Revan in Kotor 2. Stated to be a feared and respected general during the Mando wars, and who's combat skills were highly thought of. So we see that between the Mando Wars and Kotor 2 she's not ever stated as being average. You don't even consider the time period of that quote.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
This pitiful argument was destroyed by Nai and myself, yet you still post it. Gameplay mechanics are not canon, shut up already.

I wouldn't use Nai, to try and justify my stance. He's a better debater than you (who isn't) but his arguments in that thread were very flawed.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except Kreia wanted the death of the force and the exile represented that, so she was biased.

Maybe, but she was biased towards Revan as well so it balances out.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except she wasn't even comparable to Malak either. You make up this random bullshit and pass it off as fact, and wonder why you get laughed at and pwned. Her abilities didn't close to Malak. This is why Revan and Malak were #1 and #2 while she was a petty general.

When bias knows no limits. The Exile led the Republic assault on Dxun (despite the fact that the odds were against her) and succeeded allowing Revan to drive out the Mando's form Dxun. She led the Republic force in the final battle of the Mando wars and succeeded. What did Malak do exactly? Malak was a great Jedi, but his claim to fame was being a lackey to Revan. He was brutish and lacked the tactical nuance of a competent general. So forgive me if I call bs on you once again.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except her existence in kotor 1 was made known in kotor 2 so your point is moot.

Way to state the obvious. At least your good at something. Doesn't change the OVERRIDING fact that she simply couldn't have been a part of Kotor 1. So no, the point is not moot if you intend to make an argument that completely ignores this fact.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Ahahah the one getting wtfpwned in every debate is telling someone else they have no logic.

What does every debate have to do with you getting beaten pillar to post with every passing reply? And logic isn't dependant on your approval, the lack of substance in your posts renders most all of your rants irrelevant.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Yet she doesn't hold a candle to Revan.

I missed the part where this classifies as an argument. I missed how this is consistent with the debate at hand?

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
LOL.. Another opinion passed off as fact. Your stupidity knows no bounds.

How is saying Calo, Mandalore and Yusanis are non force sensitive opinion? And that they would have decidedly large disadvantage against a force user an opinion? How is stating that Uthar, Yuthura and Bandon have done nothing to put them above Sion, opinion? I don't care what is considered consensus, when that consensus doesn't make sense.

Bandon's only feat is that he blasted some officer without good reason. He's a joker and a chump. How are these guys comparable to a Sith who's hatred and will was great enough to keep him "alive" despite "physical "death"?

You don't just suck at debating you don't debate at all.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
The exile defeated Nihilus with the help of companions and that fight was unknown. The exile defeated Sion by talking him to death. The exile defeated Kreia because she didn't go all out. So she won all of these fights under circumstances and it shows absolutely nothing about her combat abilities. So you lose...Again

The Exile's contribution to that fight created the chance of a fight in the first place. So yes, despite the assistance it's largely her victory. Sion and Exile fought they didn't simply have conversation, what an idiotic statement.

And Kreia never held back, that would be counter productive to everything she intended for the Exile, it would be a betrayal of herself as well as the Exile if Kreia held back, and plus she pretty much categorically states that she will not hold back.

Originally posted by kamhal
In the moment i read that a force user gets stronger in the force by killing another force user I simply quit from this debate.

Haha! That was part of Kotor 2's narrative in the canonical light side story. Vrook states the Exile's added or greater strength hs come from(unconsciously) feeding on the death she's caused in her adventures in Kotor 2.

You'll find that unlike Saxy I actually use the evidence present and not just make denails based on my insufferable bias.

Originally posted by Allankles
Except again it doesn't matter what you think, when you can't come up with an actual argument. Such statements hold no water by themselves.

Except I provide facts and you provide unsubstantiated opinions. That is why you lose... Again...

Except this remains irrelevant. It does nothing to address the debate.

You wouldn't know a debate if it came up to you and paid you for sex.

And yet she was compared favourably to Revan in Kotor 2. Stated to be a feared and respected general during the Mando wars, and who's combat skills were highly thought of. So we see that between the Mando Wars and Kotor 2 she's not ever stated as being average. You don't even consider the time period of that quote.

Hilarious. According to you, being compared favorably means being on par with Revan. Good one..

I wouldn't use Nai, to try and justify my stance. He's a better debater than you (who isn't) but his arguments in that thread were very flawed.

Yes he is a debater than me, but I'm a better debater than you (everybody here is, even Noobaris), and seeing as how I've wtfpwned you every time, you calling anything other than your bullshit flawed is hilarious.

Maybe, but she was biased towards Revan as well so it balances out.

I don't even know what to say to this stupidity. You out perform your stupidity with each post.

When bias knows no limits. The Exile led the Republic assault on Dxun (despite the fact that the odds were against her) and succeeded allowing Revan to drive out the Mando's form Dxun. She led the Republic force in the final battle of the Mando wars and succeeded. What did Malak do exactly? Malak was a great Jedi, but his claim to fame was being a lackey to Revan. He was brutish and lacked the tactical nuance of a competent general. So forgive me if I call bs on you once again.

You can call BS on whatever your little heart desires, yet at the end of the day, the exile hold no candle to Revan.

Way to state the obvious. At least your good at something. Doesn't change the OVERRIDING fact that she simply couldn't have been a part of Kotor 1. So no, the point is not moot if you intend to make an argument that completely ignores this fact.

Except she was made a part of kotor 1 in kotor 2, so simply stating she wasn't a part of kotor 1 as a justification to whatever bullshit you're spewing, makes no sense.

What does every debate have to do with you getting beaten pillar to post with every passing reply? And logic isn't dependant on your approval, the lack of substance in your posts renders most all of your rants irrelevant.

And your lack of common sense and any kind of logical abilities are evident in your nonsense. Stop wasting bandwidth.

I missed the part where this classifies as an argument. I missed how this is consistent with the debate at hand?

YOu apparently missed the entire lecture on logical debating in the class you did or didn't take at your local community college.

You don't just suck at debating you don't debate at all.

Aww how cute. Allankles proves his stupidity yet again by repeating insults back at other people. Seeing as how you've been pwned yet again, and you continue to type and claim your posts as logical, I don't think it gets dumber than you on these forums.

The Exile's contribution to that fight created the chance of a fight in the first place. So yes, despite the assistance it's largely her victory. Sion and Exile fought they didn't simply have conversation, what an idiotic statement.

The idiotic statement comes from you claiming that any of those 3 fights had anything to do with the exile's combat prowess.

Originally posted by Allankles
Haha! That was part of Kotor 2's narrative in the canonical light side story. Vrook states the Exile's added or greater strength hs come from(unconsciously) feeding on the death she's caused in her adventures in Kotor 2.

You'll find that unlike Saxy I actually use the evidence present and not just make denails based on my insufferable bias.

Right, which is why you've been pwned in your "omg 3rd party sources are canon" arguments. But please, continue. I haven't pwned anyone this badly since Noobaris was on here.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Right, which is why you've been pwned in your "omg 3rd party sources are canon" arguments. But please, continue. I haven't pwned anyone this badly since Noobaris was on here.

How is it not part of canon when it's part of the canonical story? Stop pretending to be objective, you prove your bias with every passing reply. Unless the statement is retconned in another story or a source book, it remains as it is, canon.

And that's not likely to happen, source books merely expand on the character and another story retconning this, is very unlikely. You haven't pwned anyone but yourself, But you can continue writing this irrelevant post, just makes it easier for me.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy

The idiotic statement comes from you claiming that any of those 3 fights had anything to do with the exile's combat prowess.

Of course it did Sherlock, otherwise she would have been killed. She fought an immortal, a powerful Sith with great mastery of the force, and a devourer of worlds.

If it had nothing to do with her prowess, how would she have defeated either one of them? You do realise that she did infact engage in combat with all three of them? Or don't you know the meaning of prowess? Her ability/prowess in Jedi combat led to those victories.

You're argument doesn't make any sense.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except I provide facts and you provide unsubstantiated opinions. That is why you lose... Again...

Which facts? Don't confuse your biased opinion with fact. Every single argument you've brought that had a shred of substance I countered.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You wouldn't know a debate if it came up to you and paid you for sex.

Of course I wouldn't but it's never come up to you apparently. You wouldn't know a debate if it kicked you in the gonards and asked you to kiss it's ass.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Hilarious. According to you, being compared favorably means being on par with Revan. Good one..

Not really I was being modest. She's blatanly put on the same pedestal as Revan.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Yes he is a debater than me, but I'm a better debater than you (everybody here is, even Noobaris), and seeing as how I've wtfpwned you every time, you calling anything other than your bullshit flawed is hilarious.

It's good you've acknowledged your limiataions. 😆 But I don't consider you a debater and what we're doing now isn't what I'd consider debating. The debate ended many pages ago, when you stopped forming actual arguments.

I've defeated virtually every argument you've dared bring up. And if you admitted my superiority over you, I would think you had your brain rewired. You're not doing anything remarkable stating this, your ego remains and your points continue to lack any relevance to the arguments I've made.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I don't even know what to say to this stupidity. You out perform your stupidity with each post.

Way to go showing your limitations. It would be too much to expect for you to actually attack my points with a counterargument. But your welcome to you use the cop out, "you're an idiot" response. At least I know my capacity to debate is above yours.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You can call BS on whatever your little heart desires, yet at the end of the day, the exile hold no candle to Revan. .

I didn't just call bs, I defeated your argument, then called bs, like any competent debater would do. You on the other hand, can only rely on poorly constructed insults, the kind my five year old cousin could come up with, without trying.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except she was made a part of kotor 1 in kotor 2, so simply stating she wasn't a part of kotor 1 as a justification to whatever bullshit you're spewing, makes no sense.

Again, way to state the OBVIOUS. Do you have a mental blcok or something? Repetition does nothing but show your limitations. Kamhal (sp?) was arguing e.g. that Sion (or whoever it was) wasn't mentioned in Kotor 1, and thereby was a lesser Sith to Yuthura, Bandon and Uthar because he wasn't a noted Sith druing that time.

I was merely pointing out the overriding real world constraints that prevented that from happening? Get it, or are you going to repeat the same obvious shit?

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
And your lack of common sense and any kind of logical abilities are evident in your nonsense. Stop wasting bandwidth.

Who's wasting bandwidth? You're the one who spends his time writing statements that have no relevance to the deabate (and of course I'm only doing the same responding to your garbage).

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
YOu apparently missed the entire lecture on logical debating in the class you did or didn't take at your local community college.

No. Logically, when you don't address the argument and the subject of the debate, your being irrelevant. I just felt like pointing that out to you before you got full of yourself with the mediocrity you call debating.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Aww how cute. Allankles proves his stupidity yet again by repeating insults back at other people. Seeing as how you've been pwned yet again, and you continue to type and claim your posts as logical,

I was getting tired of calling you a poor debater, when you don't actually debate. These insults do nothing but hide your inability to provide substantial content in your so called"arguments". And I've insulted you better than this even in this thread, why don't pick up on those insults instead? There was certainly more creativty there.

Any more irrelevance or has the well of bs dried out?

The question for me here is simple: no force sensitive gets stronger by killing other force sensitives. If this happened in KOTOR II then is not cannon, which would turn the exile in a non-cannon character. End of the story.

In fact, if you see pretty much everything on KOTOR II could be claimed non-cannon. For example, if Anakin Skywalker, the Chosen One, can't heal himself and survive without his suit, how Sion is basicly immortal when it comes to huge amount of injuries?

Originally posted by kamhal
The question for me here is simple: no force sensitive gets stronger by killing other force sensitives. If this happened in KOTOR II then is not cannon, which would turn the exile in a non-cannon character. End of the story.

In fact, if you see pretty much everything on KOTOR II could be claimed non-cannon. For example, if Anakin Skywalker, the Chosen One, can't heal himself and survive without his suit, how Sion is basicly immortal when it comes to huge amount of injuries?

Dude come back when you've learnt more about the EU. There are characters like Luke and Durron who move black holes, float down form the atmosphere without the use of a parachute, Sidious who can destroy fleets by unleashing a vortex of dark side ligtning etc etc.

If you actually played Kotor 2 it makes sense that the Exile would be "leeching' off the force of the people and things around her. Otherwise she would never have been able to use the force seeing as how she was a dead spot in the force.

It's how the Exile becomes more powerful, and it doesn't become non canon on account of your disapproval. A lot more crazy things have happened in the EU.

edit: As far as Sion goes, he's the Lord of Pain for a reason. This seeming immortality comes with a price, he's in constant pain and if he's will is broken he dies. Sion must have tremendous hate for him to survive inspite of his physical condition, I'm guessing Vader might have done the same if he completely abandoned himself to the dark side, but there was always some good in him.

Kreia said Sion had fallen very far into the dark side.

Ya'll niggas need some manners.

Originally posted by Thiru
And ill let you know again idiot, he cuts his victims off the force, kills them and then feeds on the death it causes as visas stated, ill concede the kreia point but i doubt you even know what im trying to interpret.

Again cutting one off the force is part of his technique, And as various sources show, you cant cut a superior force user off the force
See the above

How old are you? I have to ask?

And why is their a disconnect between the draining and the killing? What does he kill them with? He kills his victims by breaching their connection to the force, that's how he kills his victims, it's not some step by step spell. Kreia says it, I provided a quote on page 10/11 of this very thread. So keep your inaccurate breakdown for your fan fics.

And you still never understood my point on latent force power. Nihilus had higher latent dark side force power than either Revan or Kun. Neither Kun nor Revan possessed the latent dark side energy necessary to rip apart a planets' connection to the force.

Originally posted by Thiru
Funny that ulic gets cut off the force and he doesnt die, the same to the exile, Again you cant cut a superior force user off the force

The Exile cuts herself off and is reconnected with help from Kreia. Ulic never recovers his sensitivity and Ulic was said to be blinded to the force, it was also done via the light side avoiding any lethal consequences. When Nihilus servers connection he servers the ties between life and the force.

Your rebuttal concerning Kreia's fall to the dark side on Malachor lacked any kind of logic. How does emotionally unstable Anakin killing Jedi have to do with Kreia failing to shield her emotions on Malachor? She was consumed (not destroyed) because she wasn't emotionally stable. Anakin's situation isn't in any way similar, in fact it's very random comparison to try to make.

Originally posted by Allankles
How old are you? I have to ask?

And why is their a disconnect between the draining and the killing? What does he kill them with? He kills his victims by breaching their connection to the force, that's how he kills his victims, it's not some step by step spell. Kreia says it, I provided a quote on page 10/11 of this very thread. So keep your inaccurate breakdown for your fan fics.

You know that luke breached palpatines connection to the force, does he die? I guess you fail again.

Jacen breached bens connection to the force, it didnt kill him. The yuuzhan vongs entire communitys connection has been breached millineia earlier, it didnt kill them either.

So how does he kill them? I dont know

Originally posted by Allankles

And you still never understood my point on latent force power. Nihilus had higher latent dark side force power than either Revan or Kun. Neither Kun nor Revan possessed the latent dark side energy necessary to rip apart a planets' connection to the force.
Just to confirm one thing, does he actually drain the planet? Why does he only go to areas where there are jedi's and force sensitives on it? You know, there are so many worlds so why choose certein worlds where there are only force sensitives. Hmmmm...

Originally posted by Allankles

The Exile cuts herself off and is reconnected with help from Kreia. Ulic never recovers his sensitivity and Ulic was said to be blinded to the force, it was also done via the light side avoiding any lethal consequences. When Nihilus servers connection he servers the ties between life and the force.
Your point? I merely pointed up there are force users who can use this technique to defend against nihilus

Originally posted by Allankles

Your rebuttal concerning Kreia's fall to the dark side on Malachor lacked any kind of logic. How does emotionally unstable Anakin killing Jedi have to do with Kreia failing to shield her emotions on Malachor? She was consumed (not destroyed) because she wasn't emotionally stable. Anakin's situation isn't in any way similar, in fact it's very random comparison to try to make.
Ill concede this point

I would like to point out Nihilus targets planets with Force Sensitives cause they feed him more.