Originally posted by debbiejo
Oh, here's an example:Honor your Mother and Father. Wouldn't that contradict the other commandment of not having any other gods before me if your parents were not Christian and wanted you to follow after another god?
Christians do follow other God's because God has always been invisible and christians now follow a visible god, jesus.
christians transgress the first four commands.
the ten commandments are self contradictory in their practical execution.
Which Commandments contradict the other?
therefore to follow one in the world you would inevitably end up in positions where the others would be marginalised.
Prove up.
im not the one who doesnt understand chritianity, your the one who doesnt understand the gist of my replies. again, not my problem.
No. You said if we followed just the Commandments, we'd kill people. That is COMPLETELY against the Commandments.
Honor your Mother and Father. Wouldn't that contradict the other commandment of not having any other gods before me if your parents were not Christian and wanted you to follow after another god?
Honor thy mother and father does not mean give them anything they want.
Christians do follow other God's because God has always been invisible and christians now follow a visible god, jesus.
christians transgress the first four commands.
John 1:1,14,
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....14And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."
God is not invisible to Christians. He came to us in the flesh with the Lord Christ.
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Jesus was the Son of God and God Himself. Anyone even vaguely familiar with Christianity knows this.
Exodus 20:4 thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or ANY LIKENESS of anything....
the word likeness has the meaning of "to imagine something". we cant disagree, we imagine "a Jesus" because we never saw him, he only "came up from our imagination" he is the beast that came up from the grave on the third human day. the grave is our imagination.
this doesnt mean it wasnt a good thing because by way of this we completed the soul.
according to Deutn. 13 Jesus was this false prophet that asked us to follow "other Gods" (namely himself) and gave us a sign namely he would rise from the grave. the bible is clear that this prophet had to die which was the case, he was crusified and his sign came to pass. the bible is also clear that we should not follow him. however, if we didnt follow him the soul of Adam would not have been completed on the sixth day. we are still in the sixth day.
Originally posted by debbiejo
And it's crazy to think so. That would also mean that all inventions are evil. Everything starts with imagination. It would also mean that god was evil because first god would have to IMAGINE it's creation first before setting fouth in motion.
It would make all thoughts evil 😂
Wait . . . leftright . . . what if God is Big Brother?
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
John 1:1,14,
"In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God, and the Logos was God....14And the Logos became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth."God is not invisible to Christians. He came to us in the flesh with the Lord Christ.
Logos - Longer definition: The Greek word logos (traditionally meaning word, thought, principle, or speech) has been used among both philosophers and theologians. In most of its usages, logos is marked by two main distinctions - the first dealing with human reason, idea (the rationality in the human mind which seeks to attain universal understanding and harmony), the second with universal intelligence (the universal ruling force governing and revealing through the cosmos to humankind, i.e., the Divine), natural process...ie creative process.
The OT never gave it a gender.
Also a bit more of the emptology.
1. Philosophy
a. In pre-Socratic philosophy, the principle governing the cosmos, the source of this principle, or human reasoning about the cosmos.
b. Among the Sophists, the topics of rational argument or the arguments themselves.
c. In Stoicism, the active, material, rational principle of the cosmos; nous. Identified with God, it is the source of all activity and generation and is the power of reason residing in the human soul.
2. Judaism
a. In biblical Judaism, the word of God, which itself has creative power and is God's medium of communication with the human race.
b. In Hellenistic Judaism, a hypostasis associated with divine wisdom.
3. Christianity In Saint John's Gospel, especially in the prologue (1:1-14), the creative word of God, which is itself God and incarnate in Jesus. Also called Word.
Logos etymology
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Jesus was the Son of God and God Himself. Anyone even vaguely familiar with Christianity knows this.
and yet that has always been a contradiction. did jesus impregnate his own mother and cause his own mother?
and why did he call out to his FATHER if he was the father
"oh lord oh lord why hast thou forsaken me?"
"The only reference to the Trinity in the Bible may be found in 1. John 5:7-8 (KJV):
For there are three that testify in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one, and there are three that testify on earth, the Spirit, the water and the blood.
The part of this text which is printed bold has been found not to belong to the original text. It is an interpolation and is no more recorded in the newer translations. It is likely to have been a glossary, which was then copied into the text.
"'Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered. 'No-one is good - except God alone'".
Luke 18:19
"By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me".
John 5:30
"No-one knows about the day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father".
Matthew 24:36
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and yet that has always been a contradiction. did jesus impregnate his own mother and cause his own mother?and why did he call out to his FATHER if he was the father
"oh lord oh lord why hast thou forsaken me?"
"The only reference to the Trinity in the Bible may be found in 1. John 5:7-8 (KJV):
For there are three that testify in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one, and there are three that testify on earth, the Spirit, the water and the blood.
The part of this text which is printed bold has been found not to belong to the original text. It is an interpolation and is no more recorded in the newer translations. It is likely to have been a glossary, which was then copied into the text.
"'Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered. 'No-one is good - except God alone'".
Luke 18:19
"By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me".
John 5:30
"No-one knows about the day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father".
Matthew 24:36
lol
I'm actually (probably) in agreement with you, but you're going about it the wrong way. Justified explanations for the passages you cited can be found or made up easily (most involving the 3-in-1 mystery of Christianity). There's more credible ways to suggest flaws with Christianity though, as this is mostly just trying to find semantic loopholes in the doctrine.
semantic loodholes left BY jesus and the gospel writers. i mean i can understand the writer's expression being flawed but JESUS??? come on, i can use easier language and more self contradicting phrases.
besides, im refrainging from the all out hostel denial and basic fatal contradictions in the bible/concept of christian or abrahamic god etc. ive been over them a million times with jia etc. aaaanyway, hostility only seems to breed hostility. not an altogether pleasant cycle.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and yet that has always been a contradiction. did jesus impregnate his own mother and cause his own mother?and why did he call out to his FATHER if he was the father
"oh lord oh lord why hast thou forsaken me?"
"The only reference to the Trinity in the Bible may be found in 1. John 5:7-8 (KJV):
For there are three that testify in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one, and there are three that testify on earth, the Spirit, the water and the blood.
The part of this text which is printed bold has been found not to belong to the original text. It is an interpolation and is no more recorded in the newer translations. It is likely to have been a glossary, which was then copied into the text.
"'Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered. 'No-one is good - except God alone'".
Luke 18:19
"By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me".
John 5:30
"No-one knows about the day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father".
Matthew 24:36
the trinity= the one who speaks, his voice of words and his spirit and this = a living being. it is not three persons as preached because then you divide the trinity.