surtur vs depowered tyrant

Originally posted by Utrigita
But remember that both of them wasn't exactly taking the fight seriously at the beginning, but later in the fight both of them got more serious we never saw Tyrant get serious Thanos also said himself that if he continued then he would die, Odin also began Taking Thanos more and more serious els he wouldn't have used his spear against Thanos.

I serioulsy cant believe that Thanos is more powerful than Odin in Asagard. Wasnt Thano amped in that fight? Odin says that Thanos was using a limitless energy reserve.

This isn't Tyrant vs Odin mind you. In addition to almost being Odin's equal in magic, Surtur has godly endurance and incalculable strength.

I suppose this fight would be inconclusive, seeing as Tyrant hardly has any feats at all. Aside from being injured by heralds and almost beating Galactus through a plot item.

For the record, Gungnir is only used to channel Odin's cosmic power.

Originally posted by llagrok
1. Tyrant was using lethal force. Odin didn't. If he did, he wouldn't have asked if Thanos yielded. Nothing more happened to Thanos, other than his suit being destroyed. That happened in both cases.

2. Surtur has taken blows from a heavily amped Thor and Tarene without reacting. He was beating ALL of Asgard's warriors at the same time. Odin had to absorb Tarene and Thor's mystial energies in order to send him away in a kamikaze attack.

3. Has Tyrant EVER beaten anyone at skyfather level through the use of his own power?

Tyrant wasn't using lethal force at any time except during his fight with Galactus. He wasn't trying to kill any 1. He had Morg and Gladiator as prisoners to drain their power to fuel his ship and androids. This is what he does to every 1 he comes in contact with. Thanos woulda been in the same position if he didn't leave.

What makes u think that Tyrant (2nd to Galactus in terms of the power cosmic) can't beat a Skyfather level being with his own power?

Originally posted by Sundipped
Tyrant wasn't using lethal force at any time except during his fight with Galactus. He wasn't trying to kill any 1. He had Morg and Gladiator as prisoners to drain their power to fuel his ship and androids. This is what he does to every 1 he comes in contact with. Thanos woulda been in the same position if he didn't leave.

What makes u think that Tyrant (2nd to Galactus in terms of the power cosmic) can't beat a Skyfather level being with his own power?

Why can't tyrant beat a skyfather? He has never displayed enough power to put him on that level. He has only defeated herald level beings, that does not put him on skyfather level. Take Odin in example, he never budges when a herald attacks him. Tyrant was injured by TERRAX.

If he wasn't trying to kill Thanos, then why did he say "you yet live?"

Originally posted by llagrok
Why can't tyrant beat a skyfather? He has never displayed enough power to put him on that level. He has only defeated herald level beings, that does not put him on skyfather level. Take Odin in example, he never budges when a herald attacks him. Tyrant was injured by TERRAX.

If he wasn't trying to kill Thanos, then why did he say "you yet live?"

Why does a being 2nd in terms of the Power Cosmic and derives his powers the same way as Galan have to display anything? It should already be understood. We've already covered why Terrax hurt him so lets no go there again.

Just Tyrant making a comment on Thanos surviving a blast doesn't mean he can't kill him.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Why does a being 2nd in terms of the Power Cosmic and derives his powers the same way as Galan have to display anything? It should already be understood. We've already covered why Terrax hurt him so lets no go there again.

Just Tyrant making a comment on Thanos surviving a blast doesn't mean he can't kill him.

Did I ever say that he couldn't kill Thanos? No. I said that he was trying to and surprised when Thanos survived. Not once did I mention that he wasn't capable of injuring him or that he went all out. Nonetheless Tyrant has never beaten anyone at skyfather level. All the speculations and fanboys in the world can't change that. So in the end, you've lost.

Originally posted by quanchi112
further struggle is pointless becuz thanos believes he would die. he didnt say he could win. tyrant had him outclassed. powerwise tyrant is to damn much. thanos fought like a man but rralized he couldnt just win a slugfest with him. thanos told him to prove it. he did. thanos knew he was in trouble.

So now you are refuted what is stated on panel. He stated he accomplished his goal, so there was no need to continue. Did Thanos look scared? Was he asking for mercy? No. But when has Thanos ever ran from a fight if it served his purpose to be there?

Originally posted by quanchi112
against odin he wasnt going anywhere. why didnt he yield then. becuz he was doing just fine, he wasnt near death by any means.

He wasn't doing fine. He hadn't caused Odin a single bit of pain. He hadn't accomplished his goal yet, so he wasn't going to run. And yielding would have been admitting defeat, something Thanos never does.

Originally posted by quanchi112
what does thanos care if thor gets out of his block and satrts tearing up on asgard. he didnt he was having fun testing odin.

I don't know why Thanos bothered to help the Watch. I haven't read the comic in awhile. The point is he agreed to help them.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Tyrant was not hurt in the least. He never hurt Odin but Tyrant did more damage to him in a much shorter period.

You're trying to push it in Tyrant's favor. It's not. Here's the breakdown.

Odin hurt Thanos. Thanos didn't hurt Odin.
Tyrant hurt Thanos. Thanos hurt Tyrant.

Odin blasted Thanos from the Rainbow Bridge into the city. And Thanos didn't get up until Odin flew to him.

Once again, this is Surtur vs Tyrant. Surtur is in fact far more durable than Odin and far, far stronger.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he never lost to anyone skyfather level. yet u claim he is below skyfather. interesting. he was beating galactus while big g knew he was coming. case closed.

So you think he could beat the In-Betweener and Agamotto?

Quanchi doesn't think that the technology and plot items that Tyrant used against Galactus are relevant. He thinks it would work against Surtur as well.

Originally posted by llagrok
Quanchi doesn't think that the technology and plot items that Tyrant used against Galactus are relevant. He thinks it would work against Surtur as well.

True, even though Tyrant has never displayed any kind of energy absorption or manipulation feats other than that one fight.

Originally posted by llagrok
Did I ever say that he couldn't kill Thanos? No. I said that he was trying to and surprised when Thanos survived. Not once did I mention that he wasn't capable of injuring him or that he went all out. Nonetheless Tyrant has never beaten anyone at skyfather level. All the speculations and fanboys in the world can't change that. So in the end, you've lost.

Tyrant wasn't even trying to kill Thanos. I told u what happens to all intruders on his ship. They are submitted. Tyrant saw how weak Thanos was after that explosion and allowed him to leave. The orb was insignificant and so was Thanos.

U keep blabing about Tyrant fighting a Skyfather but fail to realize the true nature and scope of power from a being of this caliber. And like I said earlier:
Sutur=Asgard level, Odin, Loki, Thor, threat. No need for UN.
Tyrant=Universal level, Galactus, herald, cosmic team threat. Need for UN.
U lost.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
You're trying to push it in Tyrant's favor. It's not. Here's the breakdown.

Odin hurt Thanos. Thanos didn't hurt Odin.
Tyrant hurt Thanos. Thanos hurt Tyrant.

Odin blasted Thanos from the Rainbow Bridge into the city. And Thanos didn't get up until Odin flew to him.

Just because Thanos hit Tyrant u assume he was hurt. If u can recall Surfer also punched Tyrant in the face and his head snapped back. Ok but what did Tyrant proceed to tell him? "You can't hurt me". It looked like Black Adam was smashing SBP in IC didn't it? Was he hurt? Just because u see somebody getting a few licks in doesn't mean he doing any damage.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Just because Thanos hit Tyrant u assume he was hurt. If u can recall Surfer also punched Tyrant in the face and his head snapped back. Ok but what did Tyrant proceed to tell him? "You can can't hurt me". It looked like Black Adam was smashing SBP in IC didn't it? Was he hurt? Just because u see somebody getting a few licks in doesn't mean he doing any damage.

Do I have to post this again?

http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thanostyrant3de0.jpg

He looks hurt there. Here, too.

http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tyrant78hy.jpg

Originally posted by Sundipped
Tyrant wasn't even trying to kill Thanos. I told u what happens to all intruders on his ship. They are submitted. Tyrant saw how weak Thanos was after that explosion and allowed him to leave. The orb was insignificant and so was Thanos.

U keep blabing about Tyrant fighting a Skyfather but fail to realize the true nature and scope of power from a being of this caliber. And like I said earlier:
Sutur=Asgard level, Odin, Loki, Thor, threat. No need for UN.
Tyrant=Universal level, Galactus, herald, cosmic team threat. Need for UN.
U lost.

Asgard level? You are not a fu*king idiot.

Your threat level rank is just complete bullshit. Do you know that Annihilus' centurions are listed as universal threats? Yet Ronan the accuser can still beat most of them on his own. Loki and Thor cannot stop Surtur on their own mind you. This just proves that you know jack shit about the character.

I suggest you take a look at cosmic powers again, because you are so full of shit. You are not a fuc*ing pathetic idiot.

Tyrant has NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER beaten anyone above skyfather level. Yet you claim he is above it? That's ridiculous.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Do I have to post this again?

http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thanostyrant3de0.jpg

He looks hurt there. Here, too.

http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tyrant78hy.jpg

U totally ignored my post. Just because some 1 gets a few licks in doesn't mean that they are hurt. In the first scan the power came from the orb not Thanos (not that it mattered anyway). And look at the exchange in the second scan. U wanna talk about who's hurt? It looks like Thanos is disintegrating. 😆

So when it looks like Thanos is hurt, he's near death. But when Tyrant is screaming, he's not injured at all.

Great logic.

Originally posted by llagrok
This isn't Tyrant vs Odin mind you. In addition to almost being Odin's equal in magic, Surtur has godly endurance and incalculable strength.

I suppose this fight would be inconclusive, seeing as Tyrant hardly has any feats at all. Aside from being injured by heralds and almost beating Galactus through a plot item.

For the record, Gungnir is only used to channel Odin's cosmic power.

Originally posted by Sundipped
U totally ignored my post. Just because some 1 gets a few licks in doesn't mean that they are hurt. In the first scan the power came from the orb not Thanos (not that it mattered anyway). And look at the exchange in the second scan. U wanna talk about who's hurt? It looks like Thanos is disintegrating. 😆

In the first post, Tyrant cries out in pain. In the second one, Tyrant's face shows more of an expression of pain than Thanos' does. I know. Tyrant was just faking it, right?