surtur vs depowered tyrant

Originally posted by llagrok
Galactus never did absorb it right back, now did he? That entire fight was a bit weird.

Surtur has a great deal of powers actually. I suppose his heat/flame generation and matter manipulation would come in handy.

No I never said he did, I said he can 😛

Tyrant can to Matter Manipulation, are CelestialDemon and You going with Surtur because of Tyrant not being capable of using magic? I can recall one incident where there to my knowlegde wasn't used magic to stop Surtur but its a long time ago since I read the Comic so don't hang me on that one.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Apparently u also believe Tyrant is only limited to using tech to absorb energy. Maybe u just don't want to admit that Tyrant wins. Just the simple fact that Tyrant was created billions of years ago in image of Galactus, obtains his power the same way Galactus does and destroy's worlds in the process should be enough to convince u of how high his power level is. But u and a few others horribly cling to Tyrant bending tech as his only means of victory. ABSOLUTELY RIDICULIOUS!!!!! 🤪

Sorry but Tyrant doesn't survive by destroying Planets like Galactus does he feeds on there very Biosphere without destroying the Planet. That was probably the reason why he was angry at Galactus since it left him one Planet shooter in the Universe to drain from.

tyrant wins this hands won. its just silly to think that tyrant needs to use the same methods he used against galactus against a weaker character in surtur. for one thing galactus is a badd ass while surtur is very close but isnt in galactus league. i fail to see how tyrant would need to use the same methods on surtur. tyrant is very very powerful and he has the power to beat surtur into submission.

plain and simple.

No Quanchi. You just don't understand it.

Tyrant didn't use his OWN power to fight Galactus, he used Galactus' power. With his OWN power Tyrant was getting his ass handed to him by Thanos.

Originally posted by llagrok
No Quanchi. You just don't understand it.

Tyrant didn't use his OWN power to fight Galactus, he used Galactus' power. With his OWN power Tyrant was getting his ass handed to him by Thanos.

Originally posted by Utrigita
No I never said he did, I said he can 😛

Tyrant can to Matter Manipulation, are CelestialDemon and You going with Surtur because of Tyrant not being capable of using magic? I can recall one incident where there to my knowlegde wasn't used magic to stop Surtur but its a long time ago since I read the Comic so don't hang me on that one.

I side with Surtur because he is a skyfather-level being who has always given Odin problems. He is powerful enough to hold his own with Odin even in Asgard.

Tyrant is still questionable as far as his exact power level is. At his original power, he was beaten by Galactus and depowered. So now, he's at a level where he can smack around heralds and Thanos with ease, but we don't know how far beyond that he is. He fought Galactus again, he had to use a plot device to beat him. He won't have that luxury against other powerful beings.

So, other than the 2 fights against Galactus (one at full power where he lost and the other where he used a plot device), Tyrant has only faced and defeated Thanos level and below. That's not enough to put him above skyfather IMO.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I side with Surtur because he is a skyfather-level being who has always given Odin problems. He is powerful enough to hold his own with Odin even in Asgard.

Tyrant is still questionable as far as his exact power level is. At his original power, he was beaten by Galactus and depowered. So now, he's at a level where he can smack around heralds and Thanos with ease, but we don't know how far beyond that he is. He fought Galactus again, he had to use a plot device to beat him. He won't have that luxury against other powerful beings.

So, other than the 2 fights against Galactus (one at full power where he lost and the other where he used a plot device), Tyrant has only faced and defeated Thanos level and below. That's not enough to put him above skyfather IMO.

Originally posted by quanchi112
tyrant made thanos leave while thanos stayed and took more hits from odin adn looked far better. tyrant wins.

Thanos and the Watch were in Asgard to talk to Odin and ask for his help. Thanos fought Tyrant for the challenge of it and to steal an orb. Different scenarios.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Thanos and the Watch were in Asgard to talk to Odin and ask for his help. Thanos fought Tyrant for the challenge of it and to steal an orb. Different scenarios.

i mean they were trying to save his son thor.

😉

Thanos left in both cases, but only after getting what he wanted.

He just got what he wanted faster from Tyrant, which was to stand up to him in combat and steal the power orb. He merely wanted to speak to Odin and get him to cure Thor. Very different scenarios.

I dare say that Surtur is at least as strong as Odin, if not stronger.

Originally posted by llagrok
Thanos left in both cases, but only after getting what he wanted.

He just got what he wanted faster from Tyrant, which was to stand up to him in combat and steal the power orb. He merely wanted to speak to Odin and get him to cure Thor. Very different scenarios.

I dare say that Surtur is at least as strong as Odin, if not stronger.

You are not retarded. Quanchi, you are not an idiot. You are not a fu*king retarded, stupid, idiotic, ignorant fanboy.

Here's the deal.

Why would Odin ask someone if they give up, if he thought they were dead? Odin isn't the kind who would do something like that. Both he and Thanos were clearly testing eachother, I highly doubt that neither of them were going all out. Although Thanos was knocked around the place, Odin never budged once. Thanos did leave in the end.

Tyrant on the other hand was surprised at Thanos surviving his attack and was clearly affected by his attacks. We also saw Tyrant being affected by attacks from TERRAX. I highly doubt Terrax is capable of injuring Surtur.

Terrax hurt Tyrant, can he hurt Surtur?

Originally posted by quanchi112
odin quit with his attack. thanos didnt leave. i mean did u read the comic u claim to own. btb stepped in and explianed the situation. odin asked thanos if he yielded yet while thanos said ney. he thought thanos was dead but save the eulogies for when the body cools. tyrant was more than odin was when fighting thanos. that simple.

Tyrant didn't put Thanos down either.

In the Tyrant fight, Thanos admitted that Tyrant would probably kill him if the battle continued. However, he had achieved his goal of withstanding Tyrant's attack and stealing the orb, so further fighting was pointless.

In the Odin fight, Thanos' mission was to get Thor to Odin so he could be helped. Thanos felt the only way to reason with Odin was to subdue him. At the time the fight was stopped, Thanos was failing.

Again, very different scenarios.

Thanos also failed at the task which Odin succeeded in.

Originally posted by llagrok
You are not retarded. Quanchi, you are not an idiot. You are not a fu*king retarded, stupid, idiotic, ignorant fanboy.

Here's the deal.

Why would Odin ask someone if they give up, if he thought they were dead? Odin isn't the kind who would do something like that. Both he and Thanos were clearly testing eachother, I highly doubt that neither of them were going all out. Although Thanos was knocked around the place, Odin never budged once. Thanos did leave in the end.

Tyrant on the other hand was surprised at Thanos surviving his attack and was clearly affected by his attacks. We also saw Tyrant being affected by attacks from TERRAX. I highly doubt Terrax is capable of injuring Surtur.

Terrax hurt Tyrant, can he hurt Surtur?

odin was trying his ass off to put thanos down or did make him yield but he failed. tyrant made thanos leave. how can u not see the difference. trant is mightier than odin.

tyrant made thanops leave in less time and thanos was visibly more meesed up but aginst odin he survived longer and looked a lot better.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Tyrant didn't put Thanos down either.

In the Tyrant fight, Thanos admitted that Tyrant would probably kill him if the battle continued. However, he had achieved his goal of withstanding Tyrant's attack and stealing the orb, so further fighting was pointless.

In the Odin fight, Thanos' mission was to get Thor to Odin so he could be helped. Thanos felt the only way to reason with Odin was to subdue him. At the time the fight was stopped, Thanos was failing.

Again, very different scenarios.

try harder next time odin.

Thanos left earlier from Tyrant because he was able to get what he wanted earlier. Stealing from Tyrant and fighting him was so easy, that's why Thanos left early.

Why would Thanos stay if his goal was accomplished?

Originally posted by llagrok
Thanos left earlier from Tyrant because he was able to get what he wanted earlier. Stealing from Tyrant and fighting him was so easy, that's why Thanos left early.

Why would Thanos stay if his goal was accomplished?

thanos challenged him and realized that tyrant was far more than odin.

im sure. tyrant is above skyfather.

anyways. thanos prepped mentally for tyrant. odin he just met and did pretty damn good. odin couldnt knock him out. while asgard got ko'd.

You have no proof that Tyrant is above Skyfather.

He has never beaten no one at skyfather level with his own power. Surtur has. He beat a Thor with his power amplified many, many, many times.