surtur vs depowered tyrant

Started by Sundipped28 pages

Originally posted by llagrok
Nova corps has the centurions listed as a universal threat.

You also need to keep track of your own posts there. First you claim that Surtur is an Loki and Thor level threat, and when I bring in evidence and refer to comics where he has beaten them silly you ask why I brought them up.

I suspect there are two 12 year old little retards behind Quanchi and Sundipped's posts. And for some reason they think that their own personal interpretation is correct, even when it conflicts with the rest of the board's members, whom have read comics far longer than they have.

Sundipped, I'll let you take a dip in my ignore list for a while.

That is the level threat Surtur is and thats all he is. U act like Tyrant won't beat Loki and Thor silly as well. Get serious.

I do pretty good for a 12 year old retard don't I? 😎
Guess that makes u a 6 year old super retard. 🤣
That ignore list idea was the best statement u've made in this entire thread.

This fight is based on our different interpretations.

It's inconclusive until we get more Tyrant feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
didnt thor get the one up on demogorge and take his ass over.

Thor summoned Atum to help fight Set. He then angered Atum enough for him to become Demogorge. That's it. Thor never got "the one up" on him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
anyways with who tyrant has faced i think its a safe bet to put him aboce skyfather. he beat thanos while odin stalemated him. its simple. tryant was also beating galactus who is an outright badass.

With who Tyrant has faced? Besides Galactus (whom he lost to), he's faced Thanos and a bunch of herald-level beings. None of these are close to skyfather-level.

Odin didn't stalemate Thanos. That's a lie.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Like I said, in the first scan the power came from the orb.
The second scan shows Thanos punching Tyrant in the face. His head snapped back, wow. Surfer did that but Tyrant himself said he wasn't hurt. On the other hand Tyrant lets out a blast covering Thanos whole body with Thanos balled up like a newborn baby with parts of him disinegrating. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at both and tell which hurt the most.

Tell me how much power was in the orb?

Was Tyrant showing an expression of pain when Surfer punched him? And Thanos wasn't curled up into a ball. He put his hand in front of his face. He's showing NO expression of pain. His clothes get blown off. That's it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos admitted he would prolly die if he would stay. that is why he left.

When has Thanos ever feared dying? He states Tyrant would probably kill him given the opportunity, but the reason he left the fight was because Thanos accomplished his goal. It's written right there, plain and simple.

Originally posted by quanchi112
ue challenged him and was losing. he took the orb abd stole from him. against odin all he had to do was say he yielded. he fought odin longer and was in better shape. on panel proof. thanos prepped for tyrant to while he fought odin just becuz odin was an idiot.

When has Thanos ever yielded to anyone? Better shape? It took Thanos four panels just to get to his feet, and he looked weak when he was getting up. The only thing messed up about him in the Tyrant fight were his clothes. Everything else looked fine.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Thor summoned Atum to help fight Set. He then angered Atum enough for him to become Demogorge. That's it. Thor never got "the one up" on him.

With who Tyrant has faced? Besides Galactus (whom he lost to), he's faced Thanos and a bunch of herald-level beings. None of these are close to skyfather-level.

Odin didn't stalemate Thanos. That's a lie.

odin was winning yes. but he didnt put thanos down. fight wasnt decided neither combatant was done and neither retreated. stalemate.

u are tellin me thanos isnt close to a skyfather level when he went toe to toe with odin on the fly/ there is no mightier skyfather than odin. all skyfathers arent equal.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Tell me how much power was in the orb?

Was Tyrant showing an expression of pain when Surfer punched him? And Thanos wasn't curled up into a ball. He put his hand in front of his face. He's showing NO expression of pain. His clothes get blown off. That's it.

well when odin was giving it to thanos his clothers were stil intact. he was singed. thanos looked much better against odin. the fight lasted a lot longer.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
When has Thanos ever feared dying? He states Tyrant would probably kill him given the opportunity, but the reason he left the fight was because Thanos accomplished his goal. It's written right there, plain and simple.

When has Thanos ever yielded to anyone? Better shape? It took Thanos four panels just to get to his feet, and he looked weak when he was getting up. The only thing messed up about him in the Tyrant fight were his clothes. Everything else looked fine.

why wouldnt thanos have fought tyrant longer if he felt he could have beaten him. answer thanos needs prep to beat tyrant. he figured that out. he tested tyrant and that is it. for thanos to survive that was an accomplishment. he regards tyrant as a better challenge than odin in my eyes. tyrant made galactus back down. thanos admitted no such thing to odin. thanos stil had a lot of fight left in him.

tyrant>odin=surtur.

Originally posted by llagrok
This fight is based on our different interpretations.

It's inconclusive until we get more Tyrant feats.

tyrant wins becuz he has no low showings. bottom line.

he beat up on galactus and chased him off once.

Originally posted by quanchi112
odin was winning yes. but he didnt put thanos down. fight wasnt decided neither combatant was done and neither retreated. stalemate.

Somebody doesn't know the meaning of a stalemate. So, let me clarify.

Main Entry: 1stale·mate
1 : a drawing position in chess in which a player is not in checkmate but has no legal move to play
2 : a drawn contest : DEADLOCK; also : the state of being stalemated

Let's see what DEADLOCK means:

Main Entry: dead·lock
1 : a state of inaction or neutralization resulting from the opposition of equally powerful uncompromising persons or factions : STANDSTILL <the deadlock was broken with a key compromise>
2 : a tie score

"Opposition of equally powerful uncompromising persons or factions." Thanos vs Odin was anything but a stalemate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
u are tellin me thanos isnt close to a skyfather level when he went toe to toe with odin on the fly/ there is no mightier skyfather than odin. all skyfathers arent equal.

Thanos is the closest being he's faced to skyfather and even he got slapped around by an actual skyfather. Yes, Odin is the most powerful but his power doesn't dwarf the rest of theirs. They are still close enough to be considered peers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
well when odin was giving it to thanos his clothers were stil intact. he was singed. thanos looked much better against odin. the fight lasted a lot longer.

So his clothes were more intact against Odin than they were against Tyrant. Thanos still had zero effect when he tried hurting Odin. Yet, Thanos' attacks did have more success against Tyrant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
why wouldnt thanos have fought tyrant longer if he felt he could have beaten him. answer thanos needs prep to beat tyrant. he figured that out. he tested tyrant and that is it. for thanos to survive that was an accomplishment.

You're right. Thanos didn't think he could beat Tyrant. I've never stated that he could. The whole purpose was to see if he could withstand Tyrant's attacks.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he regards tyrant as a better challenge than odin in my eyes. tyrant made galactus back down. thanos admitted no such thing to odin. thanos stil had a lot of fight left in him.

He never compared Odin to Tyrant anywhere so it's completely your opinion. Tyrant never made Galactus back down from anything. The only time Tyrant got the upper hand on him was their last fight.

Again, Thanos doesn't admit defeat to anyone. Show me a time where he has.

Just to give every 1 an indication of how powerful Tyrant is:

In Silver Surfer vol.3 # 105 Galactus instructed Morg to find a planet for him to feed before he faced Tyrant. Now when has Galactus used this kind of prep for a fight? 😕 In a lot of his fights u usually hear about how unfed or how starving he was.

Very next issue #106 When Galan consumed the planet it showed that it affected Tyrant as he screamed out in pain and weakened him a bit. He then flew straight to where Galactus and his ship was and engaged him in combat. This was right after Galactus fed and Tyrant still reversed/countered the attack from Galactus.

Now does Tyrant need to be shown pwning Skyfathers to show his power? I hope not, the scene would be too graphic.

If u take what happened in those 2 issues into consideration then Tyrant's fight with Thanos holds no weight at all. He HAD to be toying with Thanos.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Just to give every 1 an indication of how powerful Tyrant is:

In Silver Surfer vol.3 # 105 Galactus instructed Morg to find a planet for him to feed before he faced Tyrant. Now when has Galactus used this kind of prep for a fight? 😕 In a lot of his fights u usually hear about how unfed or how starving he was.

Very next issue #106 When Galan consumed the planet it showed that it affected Tyrant as he screamed out in pain and weakened him a bit. He then flew straight to where Galactus and his ship was and engaged him in combat. This was right after Galactus fed and Tyrant still reversed/countered the attack from Galactus.

Now does Tyrant need to be shown pwning Skyfathers to show his power? I hope not, the scene would be too graphic.

Post pics of the fights so we can all also see Tyrant owning Galactus.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Post pics of the fights so we can all also see Tyrant owning Galactus.

U already know how the fight turned out (no 1 is disputing that) so why do u need scans? Tyrant reversed the energy flow and it weakened Galan. Tyrant started to attack Galan and then Morg hit him with the UN. It took 2 blasts. After all this time now u ask 4 scans?

Originally posted by Sundipped
If u take what happened in those 2 issues into consideration then Tyrant's fight with Thanos holds no weight at all. He HAD to be toying with Thanos.

Because Tyrant's fight with Galactus couldn't possibly be the one that holds no weight, right? Nevermind that Galactus first defeated Tyrant the first time and depowered him. Nevermind that since that time he's defeated nothing but herald-level beings, getting harmed by several of them in the process. Nevermind he had an actually battle with Thanos and was hurt in that one, too. That last Galactus fight is the true measure of his power. 😘

Originally posted by Sundipped
U already know how the fight turned out (no 1 is disputing that) so why do u need scans? Tyrant reversed the energy flow and it weakened Galan. Tyrant started to attack Galan and then Morg hit him with the UN. It took 2 blasts. After all this time now u ask 4 scans?

I know I do, but your post was directed at everyone. Instead of telling them what happened, show them.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I know I do, but your post was directed at everyone. Instead of telling them what happened, show them.

What difference does it make? It's the truth. I don't make outlandish accusations on what happend in the comics like some do. If i'm lying then I'm sure some 1 can call me out. 1 thing I don't do is make a fool out of myself.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Because Tyrant's fight with Galactus couldn't possibly be the one that holds no weight, right? Nevermind that Galactus first defeated Tyrant the first time and depowered him. Nevermind that since that time he's defeated nothing but herald-level beings, getting harmed by several of them in the process. Nevermind he had an actually battle with Thanos and was hurt in that one, too. That last Galactus fight is the true measure of his power. 😘

U do know that Tyrant was gone for MILLIONS of years rebuilding his power before he came back from his banishment right? There's no telling how powerful he was during the last encounter. Powerful enough for Galactus to feed first tho.

Here we go again with the "he got hurt by herald level beings again". I'm not going through that again. After what I stated earlier what could possibly make u think Tyrant was hurt? As I said Tyrant toyed with him. He didn't go all out for a kill because he uses those dumb enough to challenge his power to fuel his ship. What kind of power does Thanos have to hurt Tyrant if Galan has to decide to feed first before fighting some 1 such as Tyrant.

More importantly how can Thanos (the trophy villian for Marvel) not show some kind of resistance against whoever he fights? He didn't give up against Odin and had a plot to leave Tyrant before he got subdued. The writers won't allow Thanos to look as bad as he really should.