surtur vs depowered tyrant

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Originally posted by celestialdemon
Somebody doesn't know the meaning of a stalemate. So, let me clarify.

Main Entry: 1stale·mate
1 : a drawing position in chess in which a player is not in checkmate but has no legal move to play
2 : a drawn contest : DEADLOCK; also : the state of being stalemated

Let's see what DEADLOCK means:

Main Entry: dead·lock
1 : a state of inaction or neutralization resulting from the opposition of equally powerful uncompromising persons or factions : STANDSTILL <the deadlock was broken with a key compromise>
2 : a tie score

"Opposition of equally powerful uncompromising persons or factions." Thanos vs Odin was anything but a stalemate.

Thanos is the closest being he's faced to skyfather and even he got slapped around by an actual skyfather. Yes, Odin is the most powerful but his power doesn't dwarf the rest of theirs. They are still close enough to be considered peers.

thanos was charing odin and gong right thorugh his attacks. odin was winning but wasnt being slapped around at all. he was losing but was taking odins blows and wrecking asgard becuz of their battle.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
You're right. Thanos didn't think he could beat Tyrant. I've never stated that he could. The whole purpose was to see if he could withstand Tyrant's attacks.

He never compared Odin to Tyrant anywhere so it's completely your opinion. Tyrant never made Galactus back down from anything. The only time Tyrant got the upper hand on him was their last fight.

Again, Thanos doesn't admit defeat to anyone. Show me a time where he has.

when tyrant had morg and held him cpative galactus backed down froam afight. galactus would lay waste to asgard and all on it if he wanted. tyrant backed him down and fought him and was winning.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I know I do, but your post was directed at everyone. Instead of telling them what happened, show them.
what scans do u want to see what is it that u dont believe?

i can post the scans what is it u dont believe?

Originally posted by Sundipped
U do know that Tyrant was gone for MILLIONS of years rebuilding his power before he came back from his banishment right? There's no telling how powerful he was during the last encounter. Powerful enough for Galactus to feed first tho.

Here we go again with the "he got hurt by herald level beings again". I'm not going through that again. After what I stated earlier what could possibly make u think Tyrant was hurt? As I said Tyrant toyed with him. He didn't go all out for a kill because he uses those dumb enough to challenge his power to fuel his ship. What kind of power does Thanos have to hurt Tyrant if Galan has to decide to feed first before fighting some 1 such as Tyrant.

What could possibly make me think Thanos hurt Tyrant? Gee, I don't know. Maybe the actual comic showing he was hurt!

And Thanos had enough power to blast Galactus through his own ship and knock his helmet off, so don't tell me he doesn't have enough power to harm Tyrant.

Originally posted by Sundipped
More importantly how can Thanos (the trophy villian for Marvel) not show some kind of resistance against whoever he fights? He didn't give up against Odin and had a plot to leave Tyrant before he got subdued. The writers won't allow Thanos to look as bad as he really should.

Ah, so you're blaming the writers now. Maybe I should do that, too. I should complain that a being who has so much power that one of his battles shook the entire MULTIVERSE was not able to put down a being who can't even harm a skyfather. Because if you want to play that card, there is A LOT more evidence showing Odin was downplayed for his fight even moreso than Tyrant supposedly was for his.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
What could possibly make me think Thanos hurt Tyrant? Gee, I don't know. Maybe the actual comic showing he was hurt!

And Thanos had enough power to blast Galactus through his own ship and knock his helmet off, so don't tell me he doesn't have enough power to harm Tyrant.

Ah, so you're blaming the writers now. Maybe I should do that, too. I should complain that a being who has so much power that one of his battles shook the entire MULTIVERSE was not able to put down a being who can't even harm a skyfather. Because if you want to play that card, there is A LOT more evidence showing Odin was downplayed for his fight even moreso than Tyrant supposedly was for his.

what is it about the odin fight lasting longer with thanos looking fine as opposed to thanos fighting tyrant for a minute and needeing to leave. tyrant looked way better than odin against thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
what scans do u want to see what is it that u dont believe?

i can post the scans what is it u dont believe?

Nothing that I don't believe. I just want all the scans posted so everyone can see what happened in that fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
what is it about the odin fight lasting longer with thanos looking fine as opposed to thanos fighting tyrant for a minute and needeing to leave. tyrant looked way better than odin against thanos.

How so? He was hurt in the fight. Odin wasn't. He wasn't even phased by a single attack. Nothing at all.

Originally posted by quanchi112
when tyrant had morg and held him cpative galactus backed down froam afight. galactus would lay waste to asgard and all on it if he wanted. tyrant backed him down and fought him and was winning.

I have no doubt Galactus could destroy Asgard if he wanted to.

Is there any reason given as to why Galactus didn't fight Tyrant when he was Tyrant captive? No. So you're speculating.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos was charing odin and gong right thorugh his attacks. odin was winning but wasnt being slapped around at all. he was losing but was taking odins blows and wrecking asgard becuz of their battle.

The Tyrant and Thanos battle wrecked Tyrant's base. What's your point?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Nothing that I don't believe. I just want all the scans posted so everyone can see what happened in that fight.
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this is tyrant just kicking ass before the fight with thanos.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I have no doubt Galactus could destroy Asgard if he wanted to.

Is there any reason given as to why Galactus didn't fight Tyrant when he was Tyrant captive? No. So you're speculating.

the reason galactus didnt fight for morg is becuz he didnt want none at that point. he realized the carnage it could cause again. point is he would laugh his ass off if odin was holing morg captive and would just take him back.
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here it is ladies and gents the fight between two powerhouses? see for yourself.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
What could possibly make me think Thanos hurt Tyrant? Gee, I don't know. Maybe the actual comic showing he was hurt!

For the last time, Thanos wanted to challenge Tyrant. Tyrant knew this and proceeded to see what Thanos had to offer. Not bad. Some of the shots was just the orb's power. Don't know how much power was in the orb but it had to be significant or Thanos would'nt have used it. Remember he read up on Tyrant using the computer on his ship. Don't tell me Thanos didn't know what he was doing. U should start saying Thanos/w orb hurt Tyrant. Even so I still don't think Tyrant was hurt at all. Tyrant w/orb was about to get wasted quicker than in his fight with Odin 1 on 1.

And Thanos had enough power to blast Galactus through his own ship and knock his helmet off, so don't tell me he doesn't have enough power to harm Tyrant.

The point is the damage was insignificant. Strange knocked him off his feet too but was he hurt?

Ah, so you're blaming the writers now. Maybe I should do that, too. I should complain that a being who has so much power that one of his battles shook the entire MULTIVERSE was not able to put down a being who can't even harm a skyfather. Because if you want to play that card, there is A LOT more evidence showing Odin was downplayed for his fight even moreso than Tyrant supposedly was for his. [/QUOTE
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Look the bottom line is this:
Galactus consumed a planet in order to fight Tyrant (because he knows what kind of power he's dealing with, UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE) 🙄
Whatever Odin or Thanos have done (against each other or in any other fight) is now insignificant and doesn't hold a bit of weight to this fact.

With the facts that have been presented it's not hard to determine that Tyrant>Sutur.

I appreciate the effort, Quanchi, but that's not the fight I wanted. I want the second Tyrant vs. Galactus fight posted.

And you missed a scan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
the reason galactus didnt fight for morg is becuz he didnt want none at that point. he realized the carnage it could cause again. point is he would laugh his ass off if odin was holing morg captive and would just take him back.

Galactus has made Tyrant run, too. When Tyrant's army was wiping out the Splinterhood, it was Galactus that finally drove him away.

Originally posted by Sundipped
For the last time, Thanos wanted to challenge Tyrant. Tyrant knew this and proceeded to see what Thanos had to offer.

Speculation on your part. What we KNOW is Tyrant was pissed that Thanos dared to even challenge him. Nothing is stated about Tyrant wanting to test Thanos' power.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Not bad. Some of the shots was just the orb's power. Don't know how much power was in the orb but it had to be significant or Thanos would'nt have used it. Remember he read up on Tyrant using the computer on his ship. Don't tell me Thanos didn't know what he was doing. U should start saying Thanos/w orb hurt Tyrant. Even so I still don't think Tyrant was hurt at all. Tyrant w/orb was about to get wasted quicker than in his fight with Odin 1 on 1.

Thanos hit Tyrant four times. Twice with the orb and twice without it. The first shot you can't see Tyrant's face, so whether he was hurt or not is speculation. The second time is with the orb, and Tyrant screams in pain. Then he hits him with the orb, which snaps Tyrant's head to the side. Finally, he punches him with his own fist, which knocks Tyrant backwards, and he is noticibly in pain. But you're right. He wasn't hurt at all.

Originally posted by Sundipped
The point is the damage was insignificant. Strange knocked him off his feet too but was he hurt?

Did Strange send Galactus flying across the planet with a single blast?

Originally posted by Sundipped

Look the bottom line is this:
Galactus consumed a planet in order to fight Tyrant (because he knows what kind of power he's dealing with, UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE) 🙄
Whatever Odin or Thanos have done (against each other or in any other fight) is now insignificant and doesn't hold a bit of weight to this fact.

Galactus knows what kind of power he's dealing with yet was dumb enough to have his own tech used against him? Yes, that makes lots of sense.

You claimed that Galactus has never consumed a planet before battling an opponent. That must make Tyrant more powerful than anyone he's ever faced according to you. So, you think Tyrant can take Ego, In-Betweener, and Agamotto and defeat them?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I appreciate the effort, Quanchi, but that's not the fight I wanted. I want the second Tyrant vs. Galactus fight posted.

And you missed a scan.

well it took forever ro do that and u werent specific enough. saving all these and doing all this tooka long time and was quit the pain in my ass.

bottom line is tyrant hurt thanos a lot more in their confrontation. its not speculation u can see the damage done to thanos is more significant. against odin it wasnt that significant. thanos never admitted he would have lost in the odin fight. thanos had a weapon against tyrant while odin had a weapon against thanos. thanos mentally prepared for tyrant as he didnt have enough time to prepare for the battle with odin. tyrant is greater than odin or surtur.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I serioulsy cant believe that Thanos is more powerful than Odin in Asagard. Wasnt Thano amped in that fight? Odin says that Thanos was using a limitless energy reserve.

Sorry but noway was it my intention to say that, all I beg is the difference between the fights.

Tyrant vs Thanos: Thanos has a orb that be uses offensively against Tyrant and amps Thanos own level. He test his own powerlevels in the fight with the help of the orb and teleports away because IMO of two things One😖taying will result in his death Two: He has obtained what he came for..

Odin vs Thanos: Battle is taking place at Asgard home dimension of Odin Thanos isn't seeking a challenge in the beginning but IMO as the battle progress the changes his mind and makes it into one.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Sorry but noway was it my intention to say that, all I beg is the difference between the fights.

Tyrant vs Thanos: Thanos has a orb that be uses offensively against Tyrant and amps Thanos own level. He test his own powerlevels in the fight with the help of the orb and teleports away because IMO of two things One😖taying will result in his death Two: He has obtained what he came for..

Odin vs Thanos: Battle is taking place at Asgard home dimension of Odin Thanos isn't seeking a challenge in the beginning but IMO as the battle progress the changes his mind and makes it into one.

i may disagree that the orb was amping thanos but i cant prove it and neither can you. thanos used the orb to hit tyrant though. he used no weapon against odin.

odin is stronger in his home dimension and thanos was doing just fine. i mean he hung in there for quite some time. the fight wasnt over and thanos still had a lot of fight left in him.

tyrant is more than odin. its just that simple. hes slightly above even the best skyfather in all of comics,odin.

Originally posted by llagrok
This fight is based on our different interpretations.

It's inconclusive until we get more Tyrant feats.

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