surtur vs depowered tyrant

Started by Sundipped28 pages
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Did you even see the scans?

Yes and it seems u misinterpeted a few things.

Scan 1: Tyrant blasts Galactus in the face. No visible damage.

Agreed.

Scan 2: Galactus blasts Tyrant, whom is visibly in pain. It's stated that Tyrant momentarily doubts his decision to face Galactus. Tyrant states he absorbs the energy.

The first blast caught him by surprise. But he probably wouldn't mind a few more like that because he said Galan's blasts empower him as well.

Scan 3: Galactus punches Tyrant. Tyrant scratches Galactus' finger. Galactus grabs Tyrant and locks him up to his machine and shuts him up.

He didn't punch him, he snatched his organic cable locks off. Tyrant said it didn't matter because he has complete control of his body. Galacuts got fustrated because of all the different ways Tyrant was countering him then he decided to use his ship.

Scan 4: Galactus uses his machine to try absorbing Tyrant's power. Tyrant reverses it to absorb Galactus and empower himself.

Smart move.

Scan 5: Tyrant cuts Galactus' face. He's about to cut him again, and Morg interrupts.

Yeah, he was about to add Galactus's head to the trophy case on his ship. This was about to happen in mere moments like Tyrant stated.

How in the f*ck can anyone fool themselves into believing Tyrant had a chance in hell against Galactus before tech was used?

How can Tyrant not have a chance??? 😕 U see all the advantages Tyrant has against Galactus. Leads me to believe thats why the tech had to be used anyway.

Originally posted by Utrigita
How many skyfathers with that in there powerset do you know of???
he has been speculating a lot lately. he just throws what ifs out there with little to no proof.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he has been speculating a lot lately. he just throws what ifs out there with little to no proof.

That one certainly contains no proof.

Originally posted by Utrigita
That one certainly contains no proof.
he debates like a lawyer tries to raise reasonable doubt.

Originally posted by Utrigita
How many skyfathers with that in there powerset do you know of???

None.

Originally posted by llagrok
None.

Okay

Originally posted by Utrigita
Okay

Which is why it's stupid of Quanchi to claim that it's a feat that puts Tyrant above Skyfather.

And how likely is it that a being like Galactus would NOT know about Tyrant's ability to absorb the energy? He made him.

Originally posted by llagrok
Which is why it's stupid of Quanchi to claim that it's a feat that puts Tyrant above Skyfather.

And how likely is it that a being like Galactus would NOT know about Tyrant's ability to absorb the energy? He made him.

I believe its just as much the feat that he put down Galactus.

Unlikely since Galactus put that his restrictions to biosphere energy in him, in a attempt to control him, it didn't suceed, and if its a part of his powerset then why wasn't it used during there first fight ??? My explanation: Because Galactus can absorb it right back hence my reasons for saying that Tyrant only used a energy based attack once in the fight.

Still even though Sundipped disagreed I believe that Galactus in most of the fight was the one on top.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I believe its just as much the feat that he put down Galactus.

Unlikely since Galactus put that his restrictions to biosphere energy in him, in a attempt to control him, it didn't suceed, and if its a part of his powerset then why wasn't it used during there first fight ??? My explanation: Because Galactus can absorb it right back hence my reasons for saying that Tyrant only used a energy based attack once in the fight.

Still even though Sundipped disagreed I believe that Galactus in most of the fight was the one on top.

Absorbing Galactus' energy and then attacking him once does NOT put you on skyfather level, period. Thanos was able to send Galactus back and ruin his armor, still not skyfather.

Originally posted by llagrok
Absorbing Galactus' energy and then attacking him once does NOT put you on skyfather level, period. Thanos was able to send Galactus back and ruin his armor, still not skyfather.
show me a skyfather hanging with galactus and then we will talk. show me some evidence or remain silent. ur speculation pains me to read.

Originally posted by llagrok
Absorbing Galactus' energy and then attacking him once does NOT put you on skyfather level, period. Thanos was able to send Galactus back and ruin his armor, still not skyfather.

I was actually telling you my reasons for believing quanchi says as he does.

Also remember what happend to Thanos immidiately afterwards One shot pierced ALL his defensive shielding (ALL) and a second would have killed him, and even though Galactus said he had to exert himself in order to pierced it, to me it doesn't look like it was difficuelt at all, probably the writer giving and excuse for Thanos not to be flatten on the floor.

And this is (again) a different Thanos then the one that fought Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
show me a skyfather hanging with galactus and then we will talk. show me some evidence or remain silent. ur speculation pains me to read.

I can't show you a scan, but we know that the Odin Force has driven off Galactus before, I would say that is better than anything Tyrant did. I know that people like to say this was a weak G, but still.

I think we have more to go on power level wise for Surtur than we do Tyrant. He doesn't have too many showings. Beating up all the heralds doesn't could for much when we are talking Skyfather level.

Show me Tyrant taking on anyone with magical abilities!

Sometimes a one time showing has to be taken with a grain of Salt.

Silver Surfer took out two beigns, who had defeated Galactus. Does this mean he is close to G level, or above Sky Father?

Also with regards to Tyrant's history, when Tyrant was at full power he battled Galactus and lost rigth? So isn't saying that De-Powered Tyrant is just below Galctus a little far fetched regardless. Just my 2 cents.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I was actually telling you my reasons for believing quanchi says as he does.

Also remember what happend to Thanos immidiately afterwards One shot pierced ALL his defensive shielding (ALL) and a second would have killed him, and even though Galactus said he had to exert himself in order to pierced it, to me it doesn't look like it was difficuelt at all, probably the writer giving and excuse for Thanos not to be flatten on the floor.

And this is (again) a different Thanos then the one that fought Odin.

How was that Thanos any different? So your interpretation contradicts Galactus' own statement? Thank you, that's all I needed to hear.

Quanchi claims that Tyrant can hang with Galactus? That is so retarded. It's just another proof that his 5 year old mind isn't capable of coming up with things on its own or actually capable of prosessing anything.

Tyrant could "hang" with Galactus because of his ability to absorb biospheric energy. HE IS STILL NOWHERE NEAR GALACTUS' POWERLEVEL.

Originally posted by llagrok
How was that Thanos any different? So your interpretation contradicts Galactus' own statement? Thank you, that's all I needed to hear.

Quanchi claims that Tyrant can hang with Galactus? That is so retarded. It's just another proof that his 5 year old mind isn't capable of coming up with things on its own or actually capable of prosessing anything.

Tyrant could "hang" with Galactus because of his ability to absorb biospheric energy. HE IS STILL NOWHERE NEAR GALACTUS' POWERLEVEL.

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first off yes he is di u read the scans or are u still living in ur own world of deniablilty. listen he chased off galactus once and he was kicking his ass after galactus was well fed. it feels so good to be right.

how does it feel that i have proof and ur line of arguing rally has nothing behind it.

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Originally posted by llagrok
How was that Thanos any different? So your interpretation contradicts Galactus' own statement? Thank you, that's all I needed to hear.

Quanchi claims that Tyrant can hang with Galactus? That is so retarded. It's just another proof that his 5 year old mind isn't capable of coming up with things on its own or actually capable of prosessing anything.

Tyrant could "hang" with Galactus because of his ability to absorb biospheric energy. HE IS STILL NOWHERE NEAR GALACTUS' POWERLEVEL.

Well he had absorbed the power of the orb from Tyrant thus increasing his power for starters. Thats my interpretation isn't contradicting his statement would you take you time to read instead of just posting without having you head properly on. I said that Galactus didn't LLLOOOKKK like he had to exert myself and then in the next scan we see Thanos begging for his life, again the just survived imagine Galactus putting a little more power into that blast and Thanos would have been history.

But I isn't the one thats making that statement direct yourself to him not me.

I isn't disagreing with you I doesn't believe Tyrant is near Galactus and If you had taken you time to read what I'm saying then you would see I am trying to put all of that fight in the favor of Galactus.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Well he had absorbed the power of the orb from Tyrant thus increasing his power for starters. Thats my interpretation isn't contradicting his statement would you take you time to read instead of just posting without having you head properly on. I said that Galactus didn't LLLOOOKKK like he had to exert myself and then in the next scan we see Thanos begging for his life, again the just survived imagine Galactus putting a little more power into that blast and Thanos would have been history.

But I isn't the one thats making that statement direct yourself to him not me.

I isn't disagreing with you I doesn't believe Tyrant is near Galactus and If you had taken you time to read what I'm saying then you would see I am trying to put all of that fight in the favor of Galactus.

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Originally posted by llagrok
Absorbing Galactus' energy and then attacking him once does NOT put you on skyfather level, period. Thanos was able to send Galactus back and ruin his armor, still not skyfather.

Yeah but what would happen in a prolonged fight between Thanos and Galactus? If I'm not mistaken, in the next panel 1 blast from Galactus had Thanos looking like he was in the last panel of the Tyrant fight. A lot of people have caught him off guard before like Sentry 😆 ,Thanos and Strange but it doesn't mean any 1 of them would actually start to win a fight with him.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Yeah but what would happen in a prolonged fight between Thanos and Galactus? If I'm not mistaken, in the next panel 1 blast from Galactus had Thanos looking like he was in the last panel of the Tyrant fight. A lot of people have caught him off guard before like Sentry 😆 ,Thanos and Strange but it doesn't mean any 1 of them would actually start to win a fight with him.
i know its ridicuolus what people use here against galactus. tyrant when he fought gaalctus was straight up. thanos with his shields was beaten rather quickly while a well fed big g was bleeding from tyrant. i wish these people besides you and i would get the facts straight here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
i know its ridicuolus what people use here against galactus. tyrant when he fought gaalctus was straight up. thanos with his shields was beaten rather quickly while a well fed big g was bleeding from tyrant. i wish these people besides you and i would get the facts straight here.

I still really see the time Tyrant had G on the ropes as more of a function of Tyrant's particular skill set. Sometimes people are matched up in a particular way which gives them an advantage.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
I still really see the time Tyrant had G on the ropes as more of a function of Tyrant's particular skill set. Sometimes people are matched up in a particular way which gives them an advantage.
good point. but tyrant really had raw power. look at the beings he dealt with and crushed. tyrant isnt as powerful as galactus but he can kill him. his skill set gives hm an advantage over galactus that other skyfather level beings couldnt fall back on. but tyrant made thanos take off while odin couldnt even make him say i yield. tyrant is greater than surtur.