Originally posted by celestialdemon
No proof that Thanos' power was amped in that fight.
Then why he didn't go into the fight without orb, because he knew he wouldn't even stand a chance. With orb, he did stand a chance for 5 minutes, otherwise he wouldn't.
And DP Tyrant still looked like he didn't break a sweat in the last panel of their fight.
And Thanos wouldn't be able to defeat those six under his own power, no way.
That orb obviously helped him.
Didt Odin beat Mephisto in his own realm? By the way guys Odin fought Thanos in Asagard where he is more powerful, but if Odin can beat Mephisto in his own house he must still be ****ing powerful on earth.
Originally posted by llagrokHowever,Tyrant was surprised over the fact that Thanos survived his attacks and was obviously trying very hard. Odin ASKED Thanos if he gave up, meaning that he tried to make Thanos yield and not kill him. Why else would he ask if Thanos gave up? Either way, this isn't Tyrant vs Odin, it's Tyrant vs Surtur.
Yeah and it looked like Odin was about to make Thanos his b*tch until he was interrupted. Theres no way Thanos is gonna give Odin a good fight in his realm unless he wanted him to.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Then why he didn't go into the fight without orb, because he knew he wouldn't even stand a chance. With orb, he did stand a chance for 5 minutes, otherwise he wouldn't.
And DP Tyrant still looked like he didn't break a sweat in the last panel of their fight.
And Thanos wouldn't be able to defeat those six under his own power, no way.
That orb obviously helped him.
Because he was there to steal it. He said so himself. Also, he never said anything about beating Tyrant. He said they would find out which being was mightier. Why would Thanos say that if he was going to be using an object to upgrade his own power? That would defeat the purpose of his statement.
We don't know if Thanos would have beaten all 6 at the same time. He might have been able to, although not with the ridiculous ease that Tyrant did. Thanos has taken a point blank blast from SS before with no effect.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Im sure it has but its one of those things you see often that you take for granted, but like I said he beat Mephisto in his own realm even outside he is very powerful.
Didn't Mephisto basically stalemate Galactus in his own realm?
M is constantly under rated on the forum.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Did he?
Depends on how you read this, but certainly he gave him a good fight.
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A lot of people misunderstand Thanos here.
When Thanos supposedly fought Odin, he came there to find a "cure" for Thor. When he faced Tyrant it was because he wanted to test him and see if he could withstand his attacks, which he could. Thanos himself mentioned that Tyrant had been humbled. But enough about that for now.
I'd say that Surtur should take a solid majority against Odin barring Odin's ability to lock him away/imprison him. Seeing as Tyrant has shown NO magical abilities, I doubt he'd be capable of imprisoning Surtur.
Surtur does NOT employ any technology, nor does he use biospheric energy. Which means that Tyrant won't be able to absorb any of his energy or take over any of his technology, like he did against Galactus. Which makes that fight irrelevant. So please stop listing it as a feat.
Surtur's magic has given his immeasurable knowledge and intelligence which should give him a pretty major advantage. The likes of Terrax and Ganymede would not be able to harm him, and despite what most people think he actually has impressive hand to hand skills.
I'd say that Surtur takes a solid majority here. If he chose to engage Tyrant physically he would most certainly win. 7/10
Originally posted by llagrok
I'd say that Surtur should take a solid majority against Odin barring Odin's ability to lock him away/imprison him. Seeing as Tyrant has shown NO magical abilities, I doubt he'd be capable of imprisoning Surtur.Surtur does NOT employ any technology, nor does he use biospheric energy. Which means that Tyrant won't be able to absorb any of his energy or take over any of his technology, like he did against Galactus. Which makes that fight irrelevant. So please stop listing it as a feat.
Surtur's magic has given his immeasurable knowledge and intelligence which should give him a pretty major advantage. The likes of Terrax and Ganymede would not be able to harm him, and despite what most people think he actually has impressive hand to hand skills.
I'd say that Surtur takes a solid majority here. If he chose to engage Tyrant physically he would most certainly win. 7/10
Excellent post. As stated, Tyrant will not be able to absorb Surtur's energy or tech.
Also in regards to physical fighting, Surtur is over 1000 feet tall, so I don't see anyone doing anything physical to him.
Originally posted by llagrokok if we throw the galactus fight out where do u have a tyrant loss. u have none to go by. it took a galactus win against his fully powered version to be the only being that ever beat him. tyrant has lost to no one else. he went against heavyweights and won or was winning. sorry but until surtur shows me something else. he isnt taking a win here.
A lot of people misunderstand Thanos here.When Thanos supposedly fought Odin, he came there to find a "cure" for Thor. When he faced Tyrant it was because he wanted to test him and see if he could withstand his attacks, which he could. Thanos himself mentioned that Tyrant had been humbled. But enough about that for now.
I'd say that Surtur should take a solid majority against Odin barring Odin's ability to lock him away/imprison him. Seeing as Tyrant has shown NO magical abilities, I doubt he'd be capable of imprisoning Surtur.
Surtur does NOT employ any technology, nor does he use biospheric energy. Which means that Tyrant won't be able to absorb any of his energy or take over any of his technology, like he did against Galactus. Which makes that fight irrelevant. So please stop listing it as a feat.
Surtur's magic has given his immeasurable knowledge and intelligence which should give him a pretty major advantage. The likes of Terrax and Ganymede would not be able to harm him, and despite what most people think he actually has impressive hand to hand skills.
I'd say that Surtur takes a solid majority here. If he chose to engage Tyrant physically he would most certainly win. 7/10
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Excellent post. As stated, Tyrant will not be able to absorb Surtur's energy or tech.Also in regards to physical fighting, Surtur is over 1000 feet tall, so I don't see anyone doing anything physical to him.
Tyrant can't hope to match Sutur's knowledge either. It would be possible that he could match his intelligence through hooking up with his ship and such, but that means he has prep and items at his disposal. It wouldn't be fair giving Tyrant that and not Surtur. And if Surtur got to use any of his items, this would be a curbstomp.
Originally posted by llagrok
Surtur does NOT employ any technology, nor does he use biospheric energy. Which means that Tyrant won't be able to absorb any of his energy or take over any of his technology, like he did against Galactus. Which makes that fight irrelevant. So please stop listing it as a feat.
Tyrant doesn't need to absorb Surtur's energy to be able to beat him. He draws biospheric energy from planets. He uses the energies from other beings to power his ship and army of heavy troopers.
Surtur's magic has given his immeasurable knowledge and intelligence which should give him a pretty major advantage. The likes of Terrax and Ganymede would not be able to harm him, and despite what most people think he actually has impressive hand to hand skills.
Tyrant has immense knowledge as well. He has been around for billions of years. He spent all his time while exiled taking over galaxy after galaxy consuming/ruling over countless worlds and can now bend just about any kind of tech to serve his own purposes. I stated earlier that some vulnerabilities have to be shown with so much opposition up against him. Why does Terrax and Ganymede have to be the ones to hurt him out of every 1 else is my question?
I'd say that Surtur takes a solid majority here. If he chose to engage Tyrant physically he would most certainly win. 7/10
See, here you're giving him massive prep while proving that you haven't read cosmic powers or Silver Surfer. Why was Tyrant able to slash Galactus? Galactus was severely weakened. Didn't I state why that fight was irrelevant here? I did. Tyrant was pretty much designed to take down Galactus. He was capable of absorbing all of Galactus' attacks and using his tech.
Tyrant will not be using tech in this fight, nor will he take over someone else's tech. Nor will he absorb anything that Surtur throws at him.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Depends on how you read this, but certainly he gave him a good fight.http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7307/mephistobattlesgalactusel3.jpg
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My bad I thought you said M statlemated Big G outside of his realm, in his realm im not suprised. Dont know how Odin owned him then.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah and it looked like Odin was about to make Thanos his b*tch until he was interrupted.Theres no way Thanos is gonna give Odin a good fight in his realm unless he wanted him to.
I'm not too sure about that, Thanos stalemated Odin all the way until they were interrupted.
Odin seemed to get more licks in,
but Thanos never went down for the count and never backed down eeither.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm not too sure about that, Thanos stalemated Odin all the way until they were interrupted.Odin seemed to get more licks in,
but Thanos never went down for the count and never backed down eeither.
Thanos didn't exactly stalemate, Odin never once budged him, Thanos was sent flying.
My point is that it's stupid to compare those two incidents. Odin wasn't bloodlusted, Tyrant was. Thanos wanted to fight Tyrant obviously, but had another reason for seeking out Odin. He couldn't teleport away when Odin and him fought.
Originally posted by llagrok
See, here you're giving him massive prep while proving that you haven't read cosmic powers or Silver Surfer. Why was Tyrant able to slash Galactus? Galactus was severely weakened. Didn't I state why that fight was irrelevant here? I did. Tyrant was pretty much designed to take down Galactus. He was capable of absorbing all of Galactus' attacks and using his tech.Tyrant will not be using tech in this fight, nor will he take over someone else's tech. Nor will he absorb anything that Surtur throws at him.
I'm not giving Tyrant any prep. I was just stating where his power comes from and what he does with other beings power. Tyrant derives his power the same way Galan does. The whole time he was in exile he built up his power to the point where he could face Galan again. This took millions of years.
And why was Galan weakened? Because he tried a energy reverse using his ship but Tyrant re-reversed it and it drained his energy instead. It was just a bad move on Galans part. U say Tyrant is designed to take down Galan but the point is Tyrant posseses incredible power to be able to do this. Galan would stomp a mudhole in Surtur. Why? Because he is just on a higher power level. If Tyrant can do that to Galactus then he should have enough power to defeat Sutur.
Originally posted by Sundipped
I'm not giving Tyrant any prep. I was just stating where his power comes from and what he does with other beings power. Tyrant derives his power the same way Galan does. The whole time he was in exile he built up his power to the point where he could face Galan again. This took millions of years.And why was Galan weakened? Because he tried a energy reverse using his ship but Tyrant re-reversed it and it drained his energy instead. It was just a bad move on Galans part. U say Tyrant is designed to take down Galan but the point is Tyrant posseses incredible power to be able to do this. Galan would stomp a mudhole in Surtur. Why? Because he is just on a higher power level. If Tyrant can do that to Galactus then he should have enough power to defeat Sutur.
ABC logic.
You're not hearing me at all. The powers that Tyrant used to take down Galactus wouldn't work against Surtur. Why? Because Surtur doesn't have any tech nor does he employ biospheric energy.
