surtur vs depowered tyrant

Originally posted by llagrok
Thanos didn't exactly stalemate, Odin never once budged him, Thanos was sent flying.

They stalemated, in and out of Asgard.

It can be argued that Odin would have eventually won, but in that issue it was a stalemate.

I must concede though,

Odin knocked out Drax with one blast, and Silver Surfer and Thanos simultaneously attacked Odin with full fury it seemed, and Odin just stood there for a moment as if nothing was happening.

Very impressive,

not to mention he knocked the Silver Surfer out also with one wave of his hand.

Come to think of it, Odin would've definitely eventually won,

but a very, very close match that is indeed.

Originally posted by llagrok
My point is that it's stupid to compare those two incidents. Odin wasn't bloodlusted, Tyrant was. Thanos wanted to fight Tyrant obviously, but had another reason for seeking out Odin. He couldn't teleport away when Odin and him fought.

I can agree with this.

Ahh what the heck,

here's the entire scene:

continues in the next post....

No need, got it in imageshack.

Odin = norwegian crazy eyes.

Originally posted by llagrok
No need, got it in imageshack.

Odin = norwegian crazy eyes.

😆

Originally posted by llagrok
ABC logic.

You're not hearing me at all. The powers that Tyrant used to take down Galactus wouldn't work against Surtur. Why? Because Surtur doesn't have any tech nor does he employ biospheric energy.

Like I said before, Tyrant won't need any tech to beat Sutur. He has enough power on his own to do it. What are u saying? Only mystical energy can beat Sutur or something? Let me ask u a few questions. Can Galan beat Sutur? If u believe so then how would he do it? Tyrant has the same capabilities as Galan to a lesser extent but it's enough to beat Surtur.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Like I said before, Tyrant won't need any tech to beat Sutur. He has enough power on his own to do it. What are u saying? Only mystical energy can beat Sutur or something? Let me ask u a few questions. Can Galan beat Sutur? If u believe so then how would he do it? Tyrant has the same capabilities as Galan to a lesser extent but it's enough to beat Surtur.

You don't get it at all.

The only reason why Tyrant was able to beat Galactus was because of Galactus' tech and Galactus' energy.

Originally posted by llagrok
Thanos didn't exactly stalemate, Odin never once budged him, Thanos was sent flying.

My point is that it's stupid to compare those two incidents. Odin wasn't bloodlusted, Tyrant was. Thanos wanted to fight Tyrant obviously, but had another reason for seeking out Odin. He couldn't teleport away when Odin and him fought.

Thanos was also send flying in his fight with Tyrant. And I believe its safe to assume that the orb that Thanos contrained during that fight amped his normal powerlevels els there would have been no need for him later, to construct a machine that transfered the orbs energies into himself.

Odin was pretty angry to IMO, Odin saw Adam Warlock and Co attack asgard and he stepped in to halt them, One of the warriors commented on how this hasn't happened in recent memory. It speaks IMO quiet clear for that he saw the Warlock and Co as a threat. Yet Thanos knew that he was the only one of them all that would stand a chance against Odin. And as I see it nor Thanos nore Odin was going full out.

As for the Teleportation as far as I know Thanos usely only uses Teleportation when he believes that his only option.

Originally posted by llagrok
You don't get it at all.

The only reason why Tyrant was able to beat Galactus was because of Galactus' tech and Galactus' energy.

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Originally posted by Utrigita
Thanos was also send flying in his fight with Tyrant. And I believe its safe to assume that the orb that Thanos contrained during that fight amped his normal powerlevels els there would have been no need for him later, to construct a machine that transfered the orbs energies into himself.

Odin was pretty angry to IMO, Odin saw Adam Warlock and Co attack asgard and he stepped in to halt them, One of the warriors commented on how this hasn't happened in recent memory. It speaks IMO quiet clear for that he saw the Warlock and Co as a threat. Yet Thanos knew that he was the only one of them all that would stand a chance against Odin. And as I see it nor Thanos nore Odin was going full out.

As for the Teleportation as far as I know Thanos usely only uses Teleportation when he believes that his only option.

You need to realize that there was no reason for Thanos to teleport out of Odin's fight. He didn't come there to test himself, but to get Thor his "medicine" He knew that Odin could be calmed down, unlike Tyrant. I've also yet to see Odin be hurt by the likes of Terrax and Ganymede.

About the orb. The orb contained power and required a machine in order to extract it. There was no way Thanos could simply let it empower himself by holding it. It was clearly used as a weapon.

Surtur seems the victor here. depowered tyrant never impressed me as much more than maybe 2 or 3 times more powerful than thanos. He certainly doesn't have any feats. one shotting Top tiers is something Thanos does all of the time. Tho Big G didn't want a fight with even depowered Tyrant so who knows.

Originally posted by llagrok
You need to realize that there was no reason for Thanos to teleport out of Odin's fight. He didn't come there to test himself, but to get Thor his "medicine" He knew that Odin could be calmed down, unlike Tyrant. I've also yet to see Odin be hurt by the likes of Terrax and Ganymede.

About the orb. The orb contained power and required a machine in order to extract it. There was no way Thanos could simply let it empower himself by holding it. It was clearly used as a weapon.

I realize that fully well, but I was more into the reasons for him during it during the fight with Tyrant if he was truly so sure at winning like most people make him why teleport out of there when it looked to me like Tyrant was about to get serious. IMHO it looked like he turned tail and run.

Wasn't that was I was just saying 😕 That he used the orb during fight as a item (a weapon like the IG) to amp his powerlevels and then later extract the energies of the orb into himself.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Surtur seems the victor here. depowered tyrant never impressed me as much more than maybe 2 or 3 times more powerful than thanos. He certainly doesn't have any feats. one shotting Top tiers is something Thanos does all of the time. Tho Big G didn't want a fight with even depowered Tyrant so who knows.

He basically saw a fight at that time agaisnt Tyrant as being fruitless so why engage.

Originally posted by Utrigita
I realize that fully well, but I was more into the reasons for him during it during the fight with Tyrant if he was truly so sure at winning like most people make him why teleport out of there when it looked to me like Tyrant was about to get serious. IMHO it looked like he turned tail and run.

Wasn't that was I was just saying 😕 That he used the orb during fight as a item (a weapon like the IG) to amp his powerlevels and then later extract the energies of the orb into himself.

I don't agree with the last part there. I think that he used the orb as a weapon. A sword almost. You can clearly see that he's blasting WITH the orb and that the blast comes from the orb. He's also seen whacking Tyrant with the orb. If it gave thanos a power-up I recon that he would've followed up with his fist.

Originally posted by llagrok
I don't agree with the last part there. I think that he used the orb as a weapon. A sword almost. You can clearly see that he's blasting WITH the orb and that the blast comes from the orb. He's also seen whacking Tyrant with the orb. If it gave thanos a power-up I recon that he would've followed up with his fist.

Perhaps ore maybe he needed to be in constant contract with the orb for it to give Thanos its power, probably another reason why he extracted the power.

But Agreed.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Perhaps ore maybe he needed to be in constant contract with the orb for it to give Thanos its power, probably another reason why he extracted the power.

But Agreed.

I agree that whether or not it was a powerup or a weapon is irrelevant. Point is that he needed it to fight Tyrant.

However, Thanos wasn't stalemating Tyrant with it, he was attacking and injuring him with it. Given the fact that we've seen Tyrant been injured by herald level beings should mean that Surtur is more than capable of killing him.

Originally posted by llagrok
I agree that whether or not it was a powerup or a weapon is irrelevant. Point is that he needed it to fight Tyrant.

However, Thanos wasn't stalemating Tyrant with it, he was attacking and injuring him with it. Given the fact that we've seen Tyrant been injured by herald level beings should mean that Surtur is more than capable of killing him.

Yes exactly with the orb, I would like to see the battle between Odin and Thanos, with Thanos:
1. wanting to test his skills
2. Having a orb that can be used as a offensive weapon.

We have seen Tyrant being attacked by Surfer and not even glancing at him Beta Ray Bill and Morg and so forth. Also remember the weapon ganyanede had was designed for hurting Tyrant like the OdinSword was designed to hurt the Celestials.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Like I said before, Tyrant won't need any tech to beat Sutur. He has enough power on his own to do it. What are u saying? Only mystical energy can beat Sutur or something? Let me ask u a few questions. Can Galan beat Sutur? If u believe so then how would he do it? Tyrant has the same capabilities as Galan to a lesser extent but it's enough to beat Surtur.

Originally posted by llagrok
You don't get it at all.

The only reason why Tyrant was able to beat Galactus was because of Galactus' tech and Galactus' energy.

Quanchi, that comment proves how little you know about them and that you didn't read the comic.