surtur vs depowered tyrant · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Surtur seems the victor here. depowered tyrant never impressed me as much more than maybe 2 or 3 times more powerful than thanos. He certainly doesn't have any feats. one shotting Top tiers is something Thanos does all of the time. Tho Big G didn't want a fight with even depowered Tyrant so who knows.

i know this answer. its becuz tyrant was a badass and big g didnt want none. he would avoid this confrontation if he could, he couldnt and they met and tyrant was winning. tyrant is for real.

llagrok Restricted

and tell us Quanchi, why did Tyrant win?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by llagrok
I agree that whether or not it was a powerup or a weapon is irrelevant. Point is that he needed it to fight Tyrant.
However, Thanos wasn't stalemating Tyrant with it, he was attacking and injuring him with it. Given the fact that we've seen Tyrant been injured by herald level beings should mean that Surtur is more than capable of killing him.

surtur is a badass. but lets be serious here. tyrant has never lost. think back to when thor got the odin force and defeated him just like that. same time odin was fighting seth i believe. dont underestimate tyrant. he never lost in his depowered state.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by llagrok
and tell us Quanchi, why did Tyrant win?

win what?

llagrok Restricted

1. Not having lost means nothing.

2. Surtur has always been locked away.

3. Why did Tyrant beat Galactus?

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by llagrok
1. Not having lost means nothing.
2. Surtur has always been locked away.
3. Why did Tyrant beat Galactus?

he didnt beat galactus he was beating him though. he absorbed hisenergy and turned his ship around on old big g. simple. he countered galactus moves. big g made him and fought him before i think he knows what tyrant is capable of. tyrant just countered galactus moves.

galactus even knew he was coming and was well fed. he had prep time to get ready for this. tyrant is just a badass.

MORE OF A BADASS THAT THOR BEATS IN A DAY WITH THE ODINFORCE.

quanchi112 Disney

and not having lost when u have owned badass heralds at once and were beating a wellfed prepared galactus says something. anyway u slice it.

😉

llagrok Restricted

See, this proves how big of an idiot you are. You're using the Tyrant - Galactus fight as a feat, when it's obvious that NOTHING Tyrant did there would work against Surtur.

When Tarene helped amplify Thor's powers a thousandfold, it still wasn't enough to take down Surtur. Odin had to sacrifice himself in addition. Sutur's armies were also giving the likes of BRB, Kurse and Balder a fight for their lives.

You hardly have any Tyrant feats AT ALL.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by llagrok
See, this proves how big of an idiot you are. You're using the Tyrant - Galactus fight as a feat, when it's obvious that NOTHING Tyrant did there would work against Surtur.
When Tarene helped amplify Thor's powers a thousandfold, it still wasn't enough to take down Surtur. Odin had to sacrifice himself in addition. Sutur's armies were also giving the likes of BRB, Kurse and Balder a fight for their lives.
You hardly have any Tyrant feats AT ALL.

u dont know which time thor took down surtur that im referring to. did u ever read when seth was invading asgard with his death trooper squads and had bes with him helping him win. it took one issue i believe or thor down. odin didnt sacrifice himself. he was off beating seth.

i love how u go from u didnt read the comics to he couldnt do tha ro surtur. who beat tyrant. who even came close, galactus? try harder tyrant was a monster. if tyrant wanted asgard it would have been his. tyrant and galactus are more than odin and surtur. way more.

llagrok Restricted

You're an idiot, plain and simple.

You can't compare them at all. Tyrant's powers worked specifically well against Galactus, do you understand that? Is your fanboish idiot brain capable of comprehending that? Can you understand that it won't work against Surtur? can you?

What the hell is Tyrant going to do? Take control over non existent tech? He doesn't have what it takes to take down Surtur.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by llagrok
You're an idiot, plain and simple.
You can't compare them at all. Tyrant's powers worked specifically well against Galactus, do you understand that? Is your fanboish idiot brain capable of comprehending that? Can you understand that it won't work against Surtur? can you?
What the hell is Tyrant going to do? Take control over non existent tech? He doesn't have what it takes to take down Surtur.

he wouldnt have to use those powers against surtur. i mean come on are u comparing galactus to surtur?

ur the one who seems a little slow on the uptake here. 😆

like tyrant doesnt have the power to just cave his head in.

😆

do u know powerful tyrant is?

do u?

surtur fails as tyrant is above skyfather.

Sundipped MURDERER

Originally posted by Sundipped
Like I said before, Tyrant won't need any tech to beat Sutur. He has enough power on his own to do it. What are u saying? Only mystical energy can beat Sutur or something? Let me ask u a few questions. Can Galan beat Sutur? If u believe so then how would he do it? Tyrant has the same capabilities as Galan to a lesser extent but it's enough to beat Surtur.

These questions were never answered. What is all this talk about Tyrant needing tech to beat Surtur? Does Galan need tech on hand to defeat any 1 he faces? NO!!! Tyrant is an image of Galactus himself (to a lesser degree) and is a universal cosmic being with superhuman strength, stamina, intellect, invulnerability, and weilder of the power cosmic that is 2nd only to Galactus in the Marvel Universe and has been around for BILLIONS of years. The biospheric energy from planets is what is used to fuel his power. He built up this energy the millions of years he was away then he came back. THIS GUY FEEDS LIKE GALACTUS! That's why they can't co-exist in the same universe.

Sutur=Asgard level, Odin, Thor, Loki threat. No need for UN.
Tyrant=Universal level, Galactus, heralds, cosmic team threat. Need for UN.
Tyrant>Surtur

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sundipped
These questions were never answered. What is all this talk about Tyrant needing tech to beat Surtur? Does Galan need tech on hand to defeat any 1 he faces? NO!!! Tyrant is an image of Galactus himself (to a lesser degree) and is a universal cosmic being with superhuman strength, stamina, intellect, invulnerability, and weilder of the power cosmic that is 2nd only to Galactus in the Marvel Universe and has been around for BILLIONS of years. The biospheric energy from planets is what is used to fuel his power. He built up this energy the millions of years he was away then he came back. THIS GUY FEEDS LIKE GALACTUS! That's why they can't co-exist in the same universe.
Sutur=Asgard level, Odin, Thor, Loki threat. No need for UN.
Tyrant=Universal level, Galactus, heralds, cosmic team threat. Need for UN.
Tyrant>Surtur

thank you for telling this guy. just becuz he was using that to defeat galactus he acts like tyrant cant hurt surtur in any way.

tyrant is higher on the food chain like u described. tyrant is greater than surtur. he is a universal threat. nicely done, sundipped.

Sundipped MURDERER

Originally posted by quanchi112
thank you for telling this guy. just becuz he was using that to defeat galactus he acts like tyrant cant hurt surtur in any way.
tyrant is higher on the food chain like u described. tyrant is greater than surtur. he is a universal threat. nicely done, sundipped.

Preciate it. 👆
I got sick of all this tech talk. It's not the fact that he bent the tech but exerted the kind of power to reverse the energy flow and feed off of it. Any 1 who can overpower Galans ship (which has existed for billions of years, is empowered by him, and contains advanced tech beyond human comprehension) has enough power to destroy galaxies. Including the 1 Surtur is in. 😎

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sundipped
Preciate it. 👆
I got sick of all this tech talk. It's not the fact that he bent the tech but exerted the kind of power to reverse the energy flow and feed off of it. Any 1 who can overpower Galans ship (which has existed for billions of years, is empowered by him, and contains advanced tech beyond human comprehension) has enough power to destroy galaxies. Including the 1 Surtur is in. 😎

yeah i cant believe how some think tyrant isnt above skyfather level. the guy doesnt have a bad showing. it cracks me up at the lack of respect for tyrant. he has enough power to beat surtur senseless. it would be a good fight and i dont think its a curbstomp but i think tyrant wins it all day.

Xplosive Restricted

Originally posted by llagrok
However, Thanos wasn't stalemating Tyrant with it, he was attacking and injuring him with it.

If he as attacking him and punching him, that doesn't mean Tyrant was injured, because he wasn't injured. I didn't see him injured, did you?
Thanos with orb had enough force to put Tyrant off his feet, to fell down, but that doesn't mean he was hurt, especially as we know what was the in last panel, completely nothing to Tyrant. It seemed Thanos only bought some time with punches, but I didn't see him hurt.

And about orb, Thanos with orb did better than those team, so that orb helped him obviously and helped him much in a battle with Tyrant.

And Tyrant still has probably enough power in DP state to take down Surtur. He wouldn't be able to do to him like against Galactus, but still should have enough his own power to take him down, but it could be also said that Surtur could to take him down.

Originally posted by Sundipped
Tyrant>Surtur

Generally, yes, Tyrant is a higher power level being than Surtur, because there is no chance Surtur would stand a chance against FP Tyrant.
This is DP Tyrant, where Surtur could possibly beat him.

Still, I would choose DP Tyrant.

llagrok Restricted

People choose DP tyrant and back it up with;

- He almost beat Galactus by taking over his own tech and absorbing his energy.
- Getting hurt by Terrax
- Getting humbled by Thanos
- Getting hurt by Ganymede
- Taking out some high heralds

You idiots have no way of proving that Tyrant is anywhere near Skyfather. He has NEVER fought anyone near Skyfather. The only one of impressive stature that he fought was Galactus.

Why doesn't that fight count? BECAUSE TYRANT WAS USING GALACTUS' TECHNOLOGY AGAINST HIM AND CAPABLE OF ABSORBING GALACTUS' ATTACKS. This is complete bullshit and shouldn't even be possible.

Why is that complete bullshit? Let's think for a second.

Apparently Galactus only employs bioshperic energy. That's just stupid. Galactus can use pretty much any form of energy he wants, thus he shouldn't have any problems harming Tyrant. Terrax uses the power cosmic as well and Tyrant couldn't absorb that, yet he could absorb the power cosmic from Galactus? Logic.

Stupid Rookie Senior Member

Originally posted by Sundipped
Preciate it. 👆
I got sick of all this tech talk. It's not the fact that he bent the tech but exerted the kind of power to reverse the energy flow and feed off of it. Any 1 who can overpower Galans ship (which has existed for billions of years, is empowered by him, and contains advanced tech beyond human comprehension) has enough power to destroy galaxies. Including the 1 Surtur is in. 😎

Um Surtur can destroy galaxies buddy, Didn't he create twilight with the energy from an entire galaxy?

Stupid Rookie Senior Member

Originally posted by Sundipped

I say that Tyrant takes the 7/10. Tyrant has talons and was visibly slashing Galactus in their final fight so I'm sure Sutur can be slashed. Aside from a physical confrontation Tyrant won't even have to go that route. He has enough powerful ranged attacks.

Honestly, I know this isn't the basis of your argument, but explain to me what a slash from T is going to do to Surtur?

You do realize he is over 1000 feet tall. I mean that is like stabbing me with a tiny splinter. I guess it might hurt, but not sure what real damage will be done.

Also given that Big G has had a weakness to magic, it might make sense that T would also.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by llagrok
People choose DP tyrant and back it up with;
- He almost beat Galactus by taking over his own tech and absorbing his energy.
- Getting hurt by Terrax
- Getting humbled by Thanos
- Getting hurt by Ganymede
- Taking out some high heralds
You idiots have no way of proving that Tyrant is anywhere near Skyfather. He has NEVER fought anyone near Skyfather. The only one of impressive stature that he fought was Galactus.
Why doesn't that fight count? BECAUSE TYRANT WAS USING GALACTUS' TECHNOLOGY AGAINST HIM AND CAPABLE OF ABSORBING GALACTUS' ATTACKS. This is complete bullshit and shouldn't even be possible.
Why is that complete bullshit? Let's think for a second.
Apparently Galactus only employs bioshperic energy. That's just stupid. Galactus can use pretty much any form of energy he wants, thus he shouldn't have any problems harming Tyrant. Terrax uses the power cosmic as well and Tyrant couldn't absorb that, yet he could absorb the power cosmic from Galactus? Logic.

uhm galactus is above skyfather. who beat tyrant who is below skyfather? tell me who since everyone who disagrees with you now is an idiot? thats the worst way to argue. and heres another reason why ur argument stinks. u say its pis pretty much that tyrant shouldnt be able to do what he did to galactus, face it he did. the un stopped him though. so tyrant lost once to big and once to un. both would lay waste to surtur.

surtur and odin are both around skyfather level. tyrant and galactus are both beyond it. tyrant is outta their league. good fight but tyrant takes it.