Mace Windu and Dooku vs Yoda and Luminara Unduli

Started by Longinus5 pagesPoll

Which Force Wins

Mace Windu and Dooku vs Yoda and Luminara Unduli

This a battle between some of the best light saber duelists the force has seen. Fight takes place on an abandoned planet where there are no obstacles or people. There will be three fights

1st Fight: Force powers

2nd Fight: Lightsaber Battle

3rd Fight: All out Fight

Uh...FIGHT!?

1) Mace and Dooku take the Force fight. Either one would quickly dispose of Luminara, and I know Yoda wouldn't be able to take down both opponent at once.

2) Yoda and Luminara might be able to do this. Yoda could defeat or tie up either of his enemies here, and I really don't see either Mace or Dooku getting past Luminara's Soresu without the Force. This could go either way.

3) Again, Mace and Dooku. Luminara gets Force-pwned by Dooku ala Obi-Wan, and the two proceed to wear down and defeat Yoda.

It depends on what Yoda we're talking about. I'm sorry, but anyone who has read Dark Rendezvous can't accurately justify the claim that Dooku and Yoda are close in power. If Yoda goes into this fight with the same mentality that he had against Darth Sidious -- he'd butcher any one of his opponents, especially given that Vaapad's unique properties won't have the same effect on Yoda.

1. I think Yoda and Luminara have the best chance here. Yoda is head and shoulders above his opponents here and will be able to defend himself from all of their attacks. Mace hasn't ever showed much in the way of active Force Powers and shouldn't be much threat. Yoda and Luminara win this I think.

2. Luminara gets owned in like 20 seconds leaving Yoda on his own and I doubt he wins.

3. This should be close. I think it could go either way.

I'm told that Mace actually kicks a lot of ass in Shatterpoint with the Force. While I highly doubt he's on Dooku's level as a Force user -- much less near Yoda's exalted prowess as a Force user -- I'd say he's still pretty good.

Yay I made a good thread that forces people to think, I really wanted to make this to gauge Luminara's abilities. Personally I'd give fight one to team Windu, although it'd very close. Fight two is a toss up because I really don't know about Luminara's saber skillz (any help/feats would be appreciated) and I'd probably give fight three to team Yoda, although Luminara's a wildcard/? but I think Yoda fighting with the intent to kill is more dangerous than the opponet he'll be facing. Also considering that 2-on-1's won't be likely seeing as all opponets are good in both the force and sabers and can't be left alone only supports my choices.

Truthfully, I see Mace and dooku winning all three...Luminara's a weak link.

Originally posted by Longinus
but I think Yoda fighting with the intent to kill is more dangerous than the opponet he'll be facing

Oh, most definately. A half-assed Yoda is actually more dangerous than Windu or Dooku (in this situation).

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Truthfully, I see Mace and dooku winning all three...Luminara's a weak link.

I read (wookiepedia, is that a good/reliable source?) that Luminara is possibly the only person outside of Sidious, Mace, Anakin and Yoda that could equally duel/outspar Dooku, but thats what was wrote. Confirmation would be nice, I also heard/read she's pretty amazing with a lightsaber elsewhere so...

I've read that too, but it strikes me as some kind of myth. True, she was a Soresu practitioner who was a Jedi Master long before Obi-Wan, but there's nothing to indicate that she's any better than him.

maybe her added experience and wisdom (I'm just making up crap) make her the better Soresu practitioner??? 🙂

Oh, Luminara's good, but Obi-wan's the best Soresu practitioner...I'm not writing her off in seconds, but any of these three could beat her without too much issue.

Damn, then why all the tslk about her saber skillz on wookiepedia/wikipedia? Was it just blown out of proportion

Question. Who besides Sidious, Anakin and Obi Wan (ughh, I really don't think he's all that great) would be the best swordsman in the time of Mace Windu??? I personally don't consider Sids, Anakin or Obi to be on the other 3 guys levels saber skillz wise (Windu, Yoda, Dooku) Anakin is too unstable to really be valueable, Sids really only excels in the force and Obi gets crapped on by the masters so... who else is of comparable skill to the top 3? Listing dead people is cool too, I heard there were some powerful people in the order shortly before/during TPM.

Yoda, Sidious, Mace are in the top tier. Anakin and Dooku are a little below that.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Truthfully, I see Mace and dooku winning all three...Luminara's a weak link.
Originally posted by ThoraxeRMG
Truthfully, I see Mace and dooku winning all three...Luminara's a weak link.

Who could replace her to where the teams are about even in all 3 categories with no overwhelming advantages to either side... I'll go read star wars or wookiepedia and see if I can find anyone

The matchup you're looking for is Yoda and Anakin Skywalker versus Darth Sidious and Count Dooku, Longinus.

Originally posted by nmensfinest
The matchup you're looking for is Yoda and Anakin Skywalker versus Darth Sidious and Count Dooku, Longinus.
That's not really equal either. Anakin or Yoda can take out Dooku quickly.

That's not really equal either. Anakin or Yoda can take out Dooku quickly.

This isn't correct.

Dooku noted that he knew Ataru inside and out, as his master Yoda used it and his own apprentice used it to the highest degree. While I grant that Yoda would win more likely than not, he's not going to curbstomp him either.

As for Anakin, I'm of the opinion that he isn't on the same level of saber mastery as Dooku. Obviously he has more Force potential and physical strength, but I'm not going to boldly say he'll win every single time just because he won in the movie. And if the action gets switched up, Mace would beat Anakin down like the ***** he is.