Originally posted by nmensfinest
So he essentially caught Obi-Wan off guard while duelling him with some force manoeuvres. The superiority in the respect I'm dealing with is... where?
You can find that superiority you're looking for in AOTC.
They have a straight-up one on one duel without force powers, and Dooku WtFpWnZ Obi-wan. He slices his leg and arm, and had Anakin not intervened would've cut his head clean off.
Wow... Where do I start? Firstly, you're forming a comparison between Dooku and Obi-Wan before gaining three years of war experience and growing in power to the point where he can throw Grievous around with ease. Secondly, I made it perfectly clear that this thread was comparing their force prowess. All that your post proved was that Dooku appeared to be a superior saber duelist than a weaker version of Obi-Wan than the version I'm dealing with. Try again.
Re: Count Dooku or Obi-Wan Kenobi
Originally posted by nmensfinestDooku was one of the finest swordsmen of the Prequel-era Order. He was on par with Mace Windu. And you better not come up with some bologna that Kenobi could defeat Mace.
Based on what we see in the movies, which of the two force users would you consider more powerful, specifically in terms of their mastery of the force and the power with which they can wield it? Post reasons.
One on One in AOTC, no surprise ambushes or anything, Dooku WTFpwned Kenobi with total ease.
In ROTS he boots away Anakin, grabs Kenobi by the neck and chucks him across room only to bring an entire balcony down upon him.
Based solely on the movies, Dooku is more powerful in the Force and in saber combat.
Originally posted by nmensfinest
Wow... Where do I start? Firstly, you're forming a comparison between Dooku and Obi-Wan [b]before gaining three years of war experience and growing in power to the point where he can throw Grievous around with ease. Secondly, I made it perfectly clear that this thread was comparing their force prowess. All that your post proved was that Dooku appeared to be a superior saber duelist than a weaker version of Obi-Wan than the version I'm dealing with. Try again. [/B]
I misunderstood. I thought you meant which of them was better overall.
You should see the post above mine, TG makes it clear that even your "advanced 3 years" Kenobi gets PwNt by Dooks in ROTS, even WITH anakin helping him.
Force choke to force throw to force drop of balcony: CHECKMATE.
Sabers or Force... Dooku is better than Kenobi.
And don't ever post that way to me again you little pissant n00b.
In addition to what the others said, Obi-wan himself even admitted (in AOTC) to Anakin that he couldn't beat Count Dooku alone, and that he needed his help. What more proof do you need?
And pretty much the only reason Obi-wan was able to beat Anakin on Mustafar because because he was the one who trained him and knew how he fought. That wasn't the case with Dooku, so Obi-wan lost against him (twice) as a result.
Obi-wan's a cool character and all, but I think you're overestimating him, nmensfinest.
It's a no-brainer. Dooku is the clear-cut winner here. In addition to the many great reasons above, there is also the fact that Obi-Wan BARELY beat Maul and Grievious when it was down to one on one. He actually beat them both the same way: He had the fight lost and found a weapon laying on the ground that he used to "sucker punch" his opponent with.