Harry Potter vs. Captain America

Originally posted by Soljer
Maybe because great wizards and witches....don't DRIVE cars, for starters?

Maybe you're distorting the meaning because you don't want to admit that wizards are superhuman.

Originally posted by Soljer

He beats Harry at half a kilometer, because Harry won't be able to lay a finger on him with ranged attacks, and Cap can always richochet around shield spells - and there is NO way that Harry'll hit the shield while it's in mid-flight. [/B]

Harry wouldn't need to lay a finger on him. At half a kilometer Harry would be able to react because for 1. You can't prove that Captain America can think faster than Harry 2. Thinking and moving his arms back in forth is slower than thinking 3. They both know they are gonna fight each other so right when the ref says go they will both act instantly. 4. If you won't admit that Harry just thinking expelliarmus is quicker than Captain America thinking and then moving his arm back and then moving it forward (not to mention that throwing the shield at that speed requires that he moves his arm back quite a bit) and then releasing his grip, then you're obviously a Cap fanboy.

Now that Cap's shield is out of the way, Harry can turn invisible and/or do many other things FTW

Can't prove that he can think faster than harry?

This is the guy that sees bullets in slow motion and can roll with a laser.

Poof! There you go, he can think MUCH faster than Harry. Show me ANYTHING Harry's done that is on the level of seeing bullets in slo-mo or rolling with a laser, and we might be able to have a discussion about it.

And if you don't think that Captain America can dodge an 'expelliarmus' spell that probably won't even be correct on-aim from half a kilometer away despite the fact that 'normal' HIGH SCHOOL students could, even though Captain America has dodged thousands of bullets and lasers in the past, you're not really a fanboy.....

Just a bit ignorant. 😬.

Very valid soljer

I think its a bit nit-picky to argue between the two of them's thinking speed becuase i mean, theyre both going to ALTEAST get one "action" done in this fight and the first for harry likely being a protection shield, as i stated earlier. What happens after that is what we should be disgussing

Originally posted by Soljer
Hmmm...where is the *transmute to feather* spell? I must have missed it.

The same way I must have missed the *keep captain america away!* spell.

Neither of which he would be able to get off faster than Cap could cave his skull in.

Actually, that is another way Harry could win. Harry could indeed change the shield into a feather, as transmuting Captain America's shield is not one of the 5 exceptions to Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration.

Originally posted by ExtraMision5555
Very valid soljer

I think its a bit nit-picky to argue between the two of them's thinking speed becuase i mean, theyre both going to ALTEAST get one "action" done in this fight and the first for harry likely being a protection shield, as i stated earlier. What happens after that is what we should be disgussing

It's quite clear, though. Cap can have his shield richochet off of a dozen different things at speeds beyond that which Harry is capable of comprehending, and then smack him in the BACK of the skull. A shield spell is like a 'wall' - not a cocoon.

Originally posted by tooa/presence
Actually, that is another way Harry could win. Harry could indeed change the shield into a feather, as transmuting Captain America's shield is not one of the 5 exceptions to Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration.

But you still haven't pointed out the page number where Harry learned the "Steel/vibranium to feather" spell.

Originally posted by Soljer
It's quite clear, though. Cap can have his shield richochet off of a dozen different things at speeds beyond that which Harry is capable of comprehending, and then smack him in the BACK of the skull. A shield spell is like a 'wall' - not a cocoon.

And i agree, a richchet would give serious problems for harry
Btw the shield spell in hp isint a "dome" per say?

Originally posted by Soljer
Can't prove that he can think faster than harry?

This is the guy that sees bullets in slow motion and can roll with a laser.

Poof! There you go, he can think MUCH faster than Harry. Show me ANYTHING Harry's done that is on the level of seeing bullets in slo-mo or rolling with a laser, and we might be able to have a discussion about it.

And if you don't think that Captain America can dodge an 'expelliarmus' spell that probably won't even be correct on-aim from half a kilometer away despite the fact that 'normal' HIGH SCHOOL students could, even though Captain America has dodged thousands of bullets and lasers in the past, you're not really a fanboy.....

Just a bit ignorant. 😬.

It doesn't matter if he can see bullets in slow motion (and show the scans I'd like to see the whole picture) since they are both ready to fight when the ref says go, they'll both get a move off. Batman has dodged bullets and he is a human without steroids so I don't see the point of the bullet thing.

Originally posted by Soljer
But you still haven't pointed out the page number where Harry learned the "Steel/vibranium to feather" spell.

I don't need to because Caps shield into a feather is not against Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration- meaning he can do it. How much simpler can I put it?

Batman is also in the peak condition one could possibly be in. He'd ALSO speedblitz the shit out of Harry given the opportunity.

But, seriously, have you ever read one of Cap's comic books? He bitches people without them being able to react all the time - people that, for all intents and purposes, are MUCH superior to harry as far as speed goes.

Originally posted by tooa/presence
I don't need to because Caps shield into a feather is not against Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration- meaning he can do it. How much simpler can I put it?

Because Harry was depicted as mediocre at transfiguration. And transfiguring one thing does not instantly mean you can transfigure another - he's NEVER encountered a metal like Cap's shield. It's unique. Harry might be able to do it in a controlled environment with time and practice and study.

He'd be entirely unable to do it before his head gets removed from his body by said shield.

Originally posted by Soljer
Because Harry was depicted as mediocre at transfiguration. And transfiguring one thing does not instantly mean you can transfigure another - he's NEVER encountered a metal like Cap's shield. It's unique. Harry might be able to do it in a controlled environment with time and practice and study.

He'd be entirely unable to do it before his head gets removed from his body by said shield.

That is complete speculation. For all we know the shield hitting Harry might barely hurt him.

Also changing inanimate objects (the shield) is easy for Harry. Besides after 19 years of extra experience and being the head of the Auror Department he damn well better know how to transfigure objects.

So we just assume, hm? He's never done it, but who knows? Maybe somewhere along the line...?

That's ignorance.

What the hell do you mean that the shield may not hurt him? Are you stoned? 🤨 🤨.

Look, we're gonna make this MUCH easier on Harry.

We're gonna put go ahead and give Harry a shield spell in front of him.

We'll put Captain America at point blank range.

AND, we'll let Harry start first.

How's that?

Well, you see, it'd turn out something like this:

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3846/ca14016zs1.jpg

Check the top panel - the bullets ALREADY fired.

In the time it takes the bullet to get to Cap, Cap's already dodged it and thrown the shield.

Let me repeat.

In the time it took a bullet to travel a FEW FEET, cap can throw his shield. And have it richochet to the BACK of his attacker.

After which, Harry will look worse off than the front of this:
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7251/captainamericav4025homeiy7.jpg

Originally posted by Soljer
Because Harry was depicted as mediocre at transfiguration. And transfiguring one thing does not instantly mean you can transfigure another - he's NEVER encountered a metal like Cap's shield. It's unique. Harry might be able to do it in a controlled environment with time and practice and study.

He'd be entirely unable to do it before his head gets removed from his body by said shield.

Originally posted by Soljer
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3846/ca14016zs1.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7251/captainamericav4025homeiy7.jpg

People do realize .5 km is 547 yards, right?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Thank you for highlighting an inconsistancy like that. 😑 the guy in the top scan, he dead right?

Captain America regularly holds back. doped.

He could very easily kill a normal human in a single punch, or totally eviscerate them with his shield. He doesn't because, well, he's a good guy. 😉.

Originally posted by Soljer
Captain America regularly holds back. doped.

He could very easily kill a normal human in a single punch, or totally eviscerate them with his shield. He doesn't because, well, he's a good guy. 😉.

Originally posted by illadelph12
People do realize .5 km is 547 yards, right?

Which means that Cap throws at least at 1,118.46815 mph

Because it doesn't even take a full second to say Protego Totalum...

Originally posted by illadelph12
People do realize .5 km is 547 yards, right?