He (Riddick) also had that weird energy dischage attack in the Director's Cut, some kind of Furian rage energy discharge, so he he's also possibly got a power.
Also, the Necromonger Lord Marshall is at least low meta, possibly higher seeing as how dude can snatch out souls and toss them to the ether and has super speed and agility.
Huo Yuanjia (Fearless) for Mid Street.
My reasoning?
This:
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Keep in mind that at first he isn't even defending himself and the other guy is clearly a Muay Thai master. The implication is that if he had actually been fighting him for real he would have rage stomped him. Also shows impressive damage soak.
Then there's this:
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Oh and this:
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Versatility isn't everything. Apocalypse is way more versatile than Silver Age Mangog but Mangog is way more powerful and is in a higher tier.Monarch may not have as many exotic powers as Surfer but his energy manipulation powers and his raw destructive output/indestructibility puts Surfer to shame.
He didn't "hold his own". He was treating Prime like an angry child and would have beaten him if he didn't underestimate his opponent and allow Prime to tear up his containment suit.
You helped my case. The only reason ALL anime characters arent put in there respectable tier is because of their versatility. Some people are saying that people like DBZ and Bleach characters arent versatile enough (along with other anime characters)..
You dont have to respond to this.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I notice you did not address a single point I made. I must assume then you were unable to.DBZ is my favorite anime of all time. I know so much about it for a reason.
I didnt address your post because I have been arguing with you about the same things for the past two to three years and I am just tired of it.
You can read up on a character and still dislike them. You dont like DBZ characters and its pretty obvious to see.
You can also not respond to my post because again, I am tired of debating with you about the same things.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Think about your post and why it is wrong.If you haven't worked it out yet, it's because it was Doomsday, who is stronger than Superman, that pushed him.
Spiderman has taken alot more than being sent 70 feet through rock, that was his original claim. As for a mountain, show Recoome being sent through a mountain.
Yet you could not refute any of my points. DBZ is nowhere near as strong as you wish it was.
LOL, again, show me spiderman being knocked through 70 feet of rock. You will never find it. Show me Spiderman punching like DBZ characters. Hell, show me Spiderman feats of him being>Goku as a child. Show me Spiderman with 10 ton strength throwing people through buildings like Goku as a child did to king picollo.
Your comment about Doomsday again helped my case. You brought up someone being damaged by an object but the person in DBZ that was damaged was far weaker than the person that did the damage so I showed you the same thing happening to Supes.
I will be waiting for those scans.
Originally posted by The Nuult
Why is Hulk mid herald when hes not as versatile as the Mandarin? lolOne word, feats.
LOL... NUT... do you not understand that you are helping my argument. Broly destroyed a Galaxy and he is listed as a high herald. The only reason he isnt about that is because he isnt versatile enough (which is what people are saying).
So you bringing up Hulk (which I have already done) helped my argument.
Thanks. 😆
Re: 7/11/10 Update
Originally posted by illadelph12
[B](Current Established Standings)Skyfather:
Pyron,Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent):
Z,Herald
Elite Herald:
High:
KOS-MOS (Full Power), Nono Diebuster, Son Goku (SSJ4),Middle:
Aku, Dante (DMC - Sparda Form), Popeye (w/Spinach)Low
Darth Nihilus, Ganondorf, Mew-Two, SephirothMetahuman (Mid-tier "Iron Man" level)
Elite Meta:
Kratos, NappaHigh:
Galvatron, Guyver, Happosai, Kenshiro, Mega Man, Samus Aran, Sun Wukong (The Monkey King)Middle:
Alex Mercer, Dante (DMC), Harry Potter, Itachi Uchiha, Kain, Link, Masamune Date, Popeye (w/o Spinach), Seras,Low:
K', Ranma Saotome, Rurouni Kenshin, Ryouga Hibiki, Ryu Hayabasa, Samurai Jack, Vash the Stampede,Street Level
Elite Street:
Afro Samurai, Brock Samson,High:
Angel , Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Spike Spiegel,
Middle:
Chewbacca, Teal'c (Stargate SG1)Low:
Sly Cooper------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Votes/Still in discussion)
Skyfather:
Brolly (1), Dark Schneider (2), Goku (1), Kevin Uxbridge (the Dowud) (2), Kid Buu (1), Pyron (4)*,Disputes: Brolly (4), Goku (7), Kid Buu (4)
Sub-Skyfather (Transcendent):
Belldandy (1), Cthulhu (1), Dark Schneider (1), Ideon (2), KOS MOS (2), Orihime Inoue (Bleach) (1), Pyron (1), Sargeras (1), Unicron (2)Disputes: Orihime Inoue (Bleach) (2)
Elite Herald:
Broly (1), Frieza (1), Hatchyack (1), Perfect Cell (1)High Herald:
Alucard (1), Dark Scneider (1), Guyver Dreadnaught (1), Kain from Legacy of Kain (1), Lexx (1), Naruto(1), Nono Diebuster (4)*, Pyron (2),Disputes: Alucard (1), Kain (1),
Mid Herald:
Aku (3)*, Alucard (1), Anubis and Jehuty (1), Broly (1), Goku (1), Ichigo (1), Illyria [Full Power](2), Kelthuzad (1), Kain from Legacy of Kain (2), Lina Inaverse (1), Nappa (1), Neo (2) Nine-Tailed Demon Fox (1), Ultimate Gravion (1), Voltron [Lionforce](2), War (Darksiders) (1), Yusuke (1),Disputes: Alucard (1), Kain (1), Kenshiro (2), Kel'Thuzad (1), Nappa (1), Neo (1), Nine-Tailed Demon Fox (2), Voltron (2),
Low Herald:
Aang (Avatar State)(3), Adria [SG1](1), Akira (2), Alucard (1), Dark Samus (2), Edward Elric (1), Freddy Krueger (2), Gouki (1), Hancock(2), Kenshiro (2), KOS MOS (Weakest)(2), Lich King (1), Lucy (Elfen Lied) (1), Master Asia (2), Mega Man (1), Mr Selactia (1), Nappa (1), Rugal Bernstein (1), SDF-1 (Macross)(1), Thorim (1),Disputes: Aang (Avatar State)(3), Alucard (1), Hancock(1), Kenshiro (2), Mega Man (2),
Elite Meta:
Aang (Avatar State)(2), The Beast (2), Archimonde [Warcraft III](1), Dante (1), Freddy Krueger (1), Kratos (3)*, Megaman X (1), Nappa (3)*, Nine-Tailed Demon Fox (1), Tekkaman Blade (2),Disputes: Aang (Avatar State)(1)
High Meta:
Aang (Avatar State)(1), Aizen Sousuke (2), Alucard (1), The Beast(2), Crocodile (2), Cutie Honey (1), Dante (DMC) (1), Dio Brando (2), Finn (Adventure Time) (1), Galvatron (3)*, Glorificus (1), Gouki (2), Gul'dan (1), Guyver (3)*, Illidan Stormrage (1), K' (1), Kain(1), Kenshiro (3)*, Khayman (The Vampire Chronicles)(1), Master Asia (2), Mega Man (4)*, Naruto (2), Neo (1), Raiden (1), Rand Al'Thor (1), Rob Lucci (1), Rugal Bernstein (1), Ryu Hayabusa (all equip) (1), Samus (3)*, Sephiroth (2), Shao Khan (1), Shin Bison (1), Skull Knight (2), Sora [Kingdom Hearts](2), Sun Wukong (The Monkey King(3)*, Veritech Fighter (Macross)(1), Walter Dornez (1),Disputes: K (1), Naruto (2), Samus Aran (1), Walter Dornez (1)
Mid Meta:
Agent (Crackdown, Max Stats)(1), Aizen Sousuke (2), Alita (2), Alex Mercer(4)*, Alucard (2), The Beast (1), Cutie Honey (1), Edward Elric (1), Firelord Ozai (1), Hans Gunsche (1), Hercules [Disney](1), Illyria (Depowered)(1), Inuyasha (1), K' (1), Kel'Thuzad (1), Kessler (2), Legato (2), Lion-O (2), Mace Windu (1), Masamune Date (3)*, Master Chief (1), Mega Man (2), Mr. Incredible (2), Naruto (2), Paladin Anderson (1), Panthro (2), Recca (1), Ryu Hayabusa (1), Samus Aran (1), Sing (1), Sephiroth, (1), Zohan (1),Disputes: Alucard (1), Alex Mercer (1), Goku (base form) (1)
Low Meta:
Afro Samurai (2), Alex Mercer (2), Alita (BAA) (1), Batou (1), Bowser (2), Caerula Sanquis (2), Dune Freman (1), Edward Elric (FMA)(2), Evangelion Unit 01 (1), Gara (BASTARD!!) (1), Guts (1), Jason Vorhees (2), Kenshiro (2), Killua (1), Kull Warriors (SG1) (1), Lu Bu (2), Mace Windu (1), Makoto Shishio (2), Mario (2), Masamune Date (1), Master Chief (2), Motoko Kusanagi (GITS)(1), Paladin Anderson (1), Phantom Limb (1), Raizo (Ninja Assassin) (1), Samurai Jack (3)*, Sing (1), Space Ghost (2), Thrall (1), Violet (Ultraviolet)(1),Disputes: Alex Mercer (1)
Elite Street:
Afro Samurai (3)*, Brock Samson (3)*, Jinno (1), Lu Bu (2), Sagara Sanosuke (1), Samurai Jack (1),Disputes:
High Street:
Black Mask (1), Boba Fett (2), B.P Vest [C.O.P.S](1), Bushido Brown (1), Cyrano d’Begerac (2), Data (2), Dune Fremen (1), Dune Sardaukar (1), Goemon Ishikawa XIII (1), Jason Bourne (1), John McClane (1), Jubei [Ninja Scroll] (1), Kham (The Protector) (1), Kurgan (Highlander) (1), Lone Wolf and Cub (1), Molotov Cocktease (1), Riddick (1), Sgt. Cortez [Timesplitters](1), Spike (2),Disputes:
Mid Street:
Alan Quartermain (2), Aramis (1), Athos (1), Charles Gunn(1), Charles Foster Offdensen [DethKlok] (2), D’Artagnian (2), Dune Sardaukar (1), El Zorro (2), Huey Freeman (1), Porthos (1), Ronon Dex (2), Riddick (1), Worf (2)Disputes:
Low Street:
Aramis (2), Athos (2), Blondie (2), Captain Kirk (1), Lone Ranger (1), Lupin III (1), Porthos (2), Teyla Emmagan (SG:A)(1)Disputes: Three Musketeers (1)
Notes:
* = Enough votes for placement (3+) [/B]
Good list but I think some people in the bleach list need to go up a little.
Where would you put YuYu and his crew?
Originally posted by marwash22
Bleach character's aren't versatile? That's hilarious...strength, speed, damage resistance, damage soak, martial arts, energy projection, offensive and defensive magic, healing, regeneration, clairvoyance.
Thats what I am saying, I know how powerful they are and honestly, I think they should either be mid to high herald but some people are seeing different.
No Marvel or DC character (in the high herald tier) take beatings like bleach characters does and still walk around without a limp.
