Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

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Originally posted by Black bolt z
Who would you put say...a super sayian 2 on strength par with.

I'm referring to black hair Goku in ALL of my posts. I'm not even boosting this up to Super Saiyan Goku.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm referring to black hair Goku in ALL of my posts. I'm not even boosting this up to Super Saiyan Goku.
Can you answer the question?

Originally posted by carver9
I'm referring to black hair Goku in ALL of my posts. I'm not even boosting this up to Super Saiyan Goku.

Black haired Goku struggles with 40 tons by the end of DBZ. Yeah. By the way you talk about Goku, I'd assumed you meant him in top top shape, and were still highly over-estimating him.

Hell, most of your suggestions on his power start with "I think". 😐

it should be obvious, if he thinks base Goku is on par with Superman, then logically, SSJ Goku would be Skyfather.

Then you have the Equus feat where he even admitted that he was unable to stop ALL of the bullets.

Superman was in another part of the country when the guns were fired. He still reacted and reached the bullets just as they hit the people.

Not all defensive.Hes a master of MA(almost top MA)and he quick to defend.But besides durability and quick arm blocks(which they have done many times before using in blurs)your right he doesn't really have defensive powers.

Where does this come from? What has Goku done to warrant such skill? Do Vegeta, Frieza, cell and buu all have the same skill as Goku? After all they all have given him a good fight. He's never beaten someone more powerful due to skill.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Superman was in another part of the country when the guns were fired. He still reacted and reached the bullets just as they hit the people.

Where does this come from? What has Goku done to warrant such skill? Do Vegeta, Frieza, cell and buu all have the same skill as Goku? After all they all have given him a good fight. He's never beaten someone more powerful due to skill.

In DBZ all of goku's powers are skills and techniques. The spirit bomb, the kamehameha all of the energy blasts, and even the instant traansmission. All skills and techniques.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I pissed a lot of people off last time I revealed this information.

One of the hero's friends can destroy the planet with a simple motion. Not the person pictured in the scan mind you. But another friend.

The hero is able to reverse this after the friend does this.

Of course people seem to resent the power levels of the characters.

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Originally posted by Creshosk
Did it not work?

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Mid herald. Galaxia and Moon FTW.

Originally posted by Creshosk
In DBZ all of goku's powers are skills and techniques. The spirit bomb, the kamehameha all of the energy blasts, and even the instant traansmission. All skills and techniques.

I mean actual hand to hand ability. When has Goku shown that he's on par with comicbook martial artists powers aside?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Mid herald. Galaxia and Moon FTW.
I can agree to this. I didn't want to be placing them out of seeming bias as the one bringing them up.

Moon has amazing restorative abilities. But there is a severe hindrance on her because aside from space flight travel speed her combat speed isn't exactly the best.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
I mean actual hand to hand ability. When has Goku shown that he's on par with comicbook martial artists powers aside?
In DB and early in DBZ, martial arts was key in victory. However, i maintain that, de-powered, Goku would get destroyed by Marvel/DC top tier-ers.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
I mean actual hand to hand ability. When has Goku shown that he's on par with comicbook martial artists powers aside?
Well there is the catching bullets thing...

There's the moving faster than the eye can see thing that the street levelers do.

Originally posted by Creshosk
I can agree to this. I didn't want to be placing them out of seeming bias as the one bringing them up.

Moon has amazing restorative abilities. But there is a severe hindrance on her because aside from space flight travel speed her combat speed isn't exactly the best.

King Kandy is also a fan, and I'll admit he knows more than me. I think a lot of people are put off because of the attack and transformation animations of the show so they'd generally rank them at like low-mid meta. This could be argued for the first few seasons but they really stepped their game up when they got towards the end.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
King Kandy is also a fan, and I'll admit he knows more than me. I think a lot of people are put off because of the attack and transformation animations of the show so they'd generally rank them at like low-mid meta. This could be argued for the first few seasons but they really stepped their game up when they got towards the end.
And due to the dialation of time there's no way of knowing how long the attack and transformation sequences actually are. To us we're treated to a sequence that if absent wouldn't fill the entire time slot for the show. So to us it might seem to take a couple of minutes but in-universe the attacks might be instantaneous.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
I mean actual hand to hand ability. When has Goku shown that he's on par with comicbook martial artists powers aside?
You know he is a top MAer right?

Pitt Achilles, where would he go?

Also Butler Leonidas?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
You know he is a top MAer right?

Is every villain also one?

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Is every villain also one?
In that world technically. Mr. Satan is the greatest martial artist in the world (title). and of course he's nothing compared to the lowest of the Z warriors. Though he proves absolutely vital in some cases. And if it hadn't been for some JerkAsses he would have single handedly taken care of the Buu problem.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Pitt Achilles, where would he go?

Also Butler Leonidas?

Achilles. high/elite-Street.
Leonidas. high-Street.

Cell is a martial artist, Buu wasn't until he absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo. I believe Frieza was a pure fighter not really a MA fighter.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Cell is a martial artist, Buu wasn't until he absorbed Gotenks and Piccolo. I believe Frieza was a pure fighter not really a MA fighter.
And babadi definetly wasn't.