Originally posted by XanatosForeverWait did he say that people see bullets?
That's an outright lie. People do not casually see bullets flying by, if they were that slow, they wouldn't be so damn deadly.Have you seen a bullet pass by, carver?
Is he talking about tracer rounds? Special phospherous rounds that are every TENTH bullet?
Originally posted by carver9This is a bullshit lie.
😕 You can see bullets but that doesnt mean you can react to it. Hell, people in the military all tell stories of how they see bullets fly past their heads. You can especially see bullets at night.
Fire a fun and tell me if you can see the bullet.
Any credibility you had is lost.
Sorry, it's every fifth round. And yeah he hes to be talking about tracer rounds.
Remember only the tracer rounds light up, so for every bolt of light you see, there are four others that you don't see.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes who is he strongest marvel of DC character that he can beat? My thoughts exactly. 😂I think its more due to the energy being released.Many times DBZ characters(even ones like nappa)were able to power up so rocks float.At the point of the buu saga I wouldn't be surprised if they released enough energy to see some uber rock floating skills
Thats hard to say on who is the strongest Goku can beat because honestly, no one in Marvel or DC use their power or fight in the fashion Goku fights.
HUH? The only time I have seen rocks floating in the air is when the person is powering up. The scan I showed you actually slows down so that you can see what is going on and again, the rocks were floating. Ki had nothing to do with it and if it did, prove it since it was shown that they were fighting at Super Speed in my scan.
Originally posted by carver9
Thats hard to say on who is the strongest Goku can beat because honestly, no one in Marvel or DC use their power or fight in the fashion Goku fights.
I'd say Starfire is the closest mainstream comics character in terms of powerset to someone like Goku: flight, superspeed, vaguely defined superhuman strength and durability, and lots of glowy shiny energy blasts. Starfire is High Meta-Low Herald.
Originally posted by Black bolt zAnakin didn't arrive until Mace had already beaten Palpatine, thus making his loss completely legit (as was confirmed by Lucas himself.) But I do agree that after Anakin arrived, Palaptine seemed to play up the "help me, I'm powerless" card to try and lure Anakin to the dark side.
Only reason I say that is palpatine knew anikan would come back and it gave him a perfect chance to finish off mace and make him his apprentice at the same time.Either he was holding back or he was beaten and his timing was perfect.
Originally posted by Galan007how do you know palpatine wasn't just playing along?
Anakin didn't arrive until Mace had already beaten Palpatine, thus making his loss completely legit (as was confirmed by Lucas himself.) But I do agree that after Anakin arrived, Palaptine seemed to play up the "help me, I'm powerless" card to try and lure Anakin to the dark side.
Originally posted by Galan007it could be implied
Because a.) Lucas stated that Mace "overpowered" Palpatine, and b.) no canonical sources (ie. the film, novel, comics, official bios, etc.) mention anything about Palpatine holding back.
palpatine would have calculated that anakin would arrive on the scene...and to maximize the situation, he lets mace overpower him. I mean, how else do you explain how palpatine wasn't finished off before anakin's arrival.
Originally posted by Starscream M
it could be impliedpalpatine would have calculated that anakin would arrive on the scene...and to maximize the situation, he lets mace overpower him. I mean, how else do you explain how palpatine wasn't finished off before anakin's arrival.
Originally posted by carver9So whats your answer?You think freiza can beat thanos....so who can a super sayian 3 beat?
Thats hard to say on who is the strongest Goku can beat because honestly, no one in Marvel or DC use their power or fight in the fashion Goku fights.HUH? The only time I have seen rocks floating in the air is when the person is powering up. The scan I showed you actually slows down so that you can see what is going on and again, the rocks were floating. Ki had nothing to do with it and if it did, prove it since it was shown that they were fighting at Super Speed in my scan.
Originally posted by Galan007SO his timing was just about as perfect as it can be and he was a good actor.I'm a SW fanboy but you seem to know much more then me so i'll believe you.
Anakin didn't arrive until Mace had already beaten Palpatine, thus making his loss completely legit (as was confirmed by Lucas himself.) But I do agree that after Anakin arrived, Palaptine seemed to play up the "help me, I'm powerless" card to try and lure Anakin to the dark side.
Although(I can't believe i'm saying this)I sort of agree with bruce.
[quickquote=12876211](auto quote)[/quickquote Some people could afford to.People like sion,bane,exar kun etc....
Originally posted by Starscream MSuch an implication would only be opinion based, as there is absolutely NO proof to support it.
it could be impliedpalpatine would have calculated that anakin would arrive on the scene...and to maximize the situation, he lets mace overpower him. I mean, how else do you explain how palpatine wasn't finished off before anakin's arrival.
You do realize that if Palpatine let Mace win, then the very definition of "overpowered" would be defeated, right? For instance, when I was a child I used to play-wrestle with my dad all the time (like many kids do.) Even though my dad always let me win, does that mean I actually/literally overpowered him? Hell no. The same applies with Palpatine/Mace.
Anyhow, GL flat out stated that Mace overpowered Palpatine during their battle -- NO canon sources even hint at Palpatine holding back -- Assuming that Palpatine was holding back is pure unsubstantiated speculation.
Originally posted by carver9
Flash has done it during battle. Look at his battle against Mongul, flash was moving at super speed mode throughout the entire battle. Look at flash vs Zoom battles, they are moving at Super Speed the entire time. Look at Amazo and Flash fight, they are moving at Super speed the entire time.Hell, in one of Zooms fight, Zoom was fighting so fast that his hands were invisible.
I know what scene you are talking about with the blur from Superman and Doomsday fight but that was a fly blitz and after that they were fighting at normal speeds.
that's the flash. he doesn't have anything CLOSE to the durability superman has. poor comparison.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Carver you need to stop using artistic license as if it's concrete evidence. It's not. Superman has been shown to travel at FTL without ANY blur effect while at the same time Deathstroke (someone who at best can run 100 mph) has been shown to blur many times.
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Originally posted by NemeBro
This is true, most of the time, we should be able to, you know, SEE the combatants.Retard? He was just outclassed, they did not know he would be powerful enough to effortlessly kill three masters.
if he had been shown to outclass them fairly on screen, i wouldn't have minded. it was the way it was portrayed that i had a problem with.
Originally posted by Galan007
See, this is why the RotS novelization is almost an essential read. It fills in the gaps SO much better than the film. Anyhow, it's not that Kit, Agen, and Saesee were weak by any means (they were confirmed by Obi-Wan and Yoda as 3 of the best swordsmen the Jedi order had EVER produced, after all) it's just that Palpatine was so far beyond all of them, that they hardly knew what was going on before being slaughtered in rapid succession. As Dooku put it: "Palpatine is beyond power."Hell, the only reason Mace Windu was able to best Palpatine is because his form of combat (Vaapad) enables him to tap both his AND his opponent's inner darkness and employ it offensively in battle.
(All of the above is from the RotS novel, btw.)
I can assure you there are NO canonical sources that say anything about Palpatine "holding back" against Mace. In fact, per GL himself during the RotS audio commentary, Mace legitimately "overpowered" Palpatine during their battle.
So yeah... I guess one could TRY to argue that point, but it would be a completely vain and baseless argument, really.
i'm talking purely about how it was conveyed on screen, dude. 😛
also, mace beat his ass. it's just haters trying to make him look bad. 🙁