Originally posted by Creshosk
And on that note, we never see any decent magic or divine energy resist from the DBZ characters. even magic using characters such as buu don't resist magic at all. Fat Buu got turned into chocolate. And it was his own magic.
HHHMMM, Vegeta resisted Babidis magic and picollo did as well.
Originally posted by marwash22
Babadi is your best example? Babadi would get shit on by Harry Potter character's; Marvel/DC magicians are >>>>>>>>>> above anything a DBZ character has ever come across.
Did I ever say Babidi was the most powerful Magician but think about this, Babidi was more powerful than his father and his father created buu.
Originally posted by carver9
Did I ever say Babidi was the most powerful Magician
Nah, you never said those words, but when asked about magic, your response was...
Originally posted by Creshosk
And on that note, we never see any decent magic or divine energy resist from the DBZ characters
Originally posted by carver9kinda sounds like you're implying that Vegeta resisting Babadi's magic would translate into him resisting a Marvel/Dc magician.
HHHMMM, Vegeta resisted Babidis magic and picollo did as well.
Originally posted by carver9yeah, and? Professor Ivo created Amazo... Bibidi creating Buu doesn't mean shit. If Babadi was truly great, he would have been able to control Buu.
but think about this, Babidi was more powerful than his father and his father created buu.
Originally posted by NemeBroI beg to differ.
Superman all-out punching Super Saiyan 3 Goku would accidently knock his head clean off his shoulders.
A SS2 IMO would give superman a fight and beat him within an inch of his life(although superman would win in the end).
But once again IMO SS3 goku would beat superman.
Originally posted by marwash22
Nah, you never said those words, but when asked about magic, your response was...
kinda sounds like you're implying that Vegeta resisting Babadi's magic would translate into him resisting a Marvel/Dc magician.yeah, and? Professor Ivo created Amazo... Bibidi creating Buu doesn't mean shit. If Babadi was truly great, he would have been able to control Buu.
No one could control buu but babidi was great enough that he held the entire planet at bay with just a thought. Hell, the guy magic was so powerful that he exploded a guy head and babidi was on the other side of the planet. Then he had control of high end people, he just couldnt control someone as powerful as buu or Vegeta which in itself is a feat for both. Hell, Babidi was transporting people with just a wave of his hands to different areas across the universe.
You are seriously underestimating babidi.
Originally posted by Black bolt zWhy?
I beg to differ.A SS2 IMO would give superman a fight and beat him within an inch of his life(although superman would win in the end).
But once again IMO SS3 goku would beat superman.
Is it him being too slow to hit Superman, too weak to physically harm him, and too frail to take a hit from Superman?
Originally posted by Wei PhoenixIIRC that was plainly stated....
How can you tell he was more powerful?
Originally posted by marwash22People like vegeta when he first came to earth was a planet buster.Goku can release massive amounts of energy(IMO enough to do a good amount of damage to supes)has very high combat speed(though not nearly as high as supes.But in a CIS on sceniaro supes doesn't really use his speed that much)is a master of MA i'd say almost on par with the likes of cap and batman,has high damage soak with feats like easily being punched through hundreds of feet of rock and being fine(still not as good as supes though)and has instant transmission.
this is based on what?
Thats SS2.He would lose to supes but not by much.
Up all that a tier or two and IMO SS3 goku beats supes.
Originally posted by carver9Yet Goku and Vegeta had to escape the planet or a planet busting attack would have killed them.
Based on the fact that a Cell had enough power to destroy a Solar System and Goku>>>Cell. Also based on the fact of Superman entire history of fighting characters and just showings from DBZ characters that puts them FAR above Superman.
Does anyone actually believe the shit he says?
Originally posted by carver9nah, as usual, you're wanking over DBZ character's. All the feats your just mentioned for Babadi can be performed by the lowest magicians in Marvel/DC. Point is, Babadi just simply doesn't compare to Marvel/Dc magicians. Babadi would wet himself in the presence of Fate or Strange.
No one could control buu but babidi was great enough that he held the entire planet at bay with just a thought. Hell, the guy magic was so powerful that he exploded a guy head and babidi was on the other side of the planet. Then he had control of high end people, he just couldnt control someone as powerful as buu or Vegeta which in itself is a feat for both. Hell, Babidi was transporting people with just a wave of his hands to different areas across the universe.You are seriously underestimating babidi.
Originally posted by NemeBroOk thats a complete lie and your downplaying him.If supes fights smartly hsi could own goku but in a CIS on fight supes probably wouldn't be moving any faster then goku.
Why?Is it him being too slow to hit Superman, too weak to physically harm him, and too frail to take a hit from Superman?
Goku can shatter mountains with punches and just by him and buu punching each other they shattered miles of land so he can hurt supes.
And in the above I posted gokus durability feats and thats just off the top of my head.
Stop downplaying them.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Why?Is it him being too slow to hit Superman, too weak to physically harm him, and too frail to take a hit from Superman?
This is why. Superman was in serious trouble against Cheetah and Cheetah was blitzing the hell out of him and Superman was getting stomped.
Cheetah doesnt have ONE SHOWING that put her punching power, speed, durability, or power close to even black hair Goku.
http://i42.tinypic.com/iejh4x.jpg
Is Superman powerful, yes, he is powerful as hell but he isnt beating Goku.
