Originally posted by -Pr-
he went down like a b*tch, even though in TCW he could take on grievous and his bodyguards and hold his own.you honestly going to tell me that part of the movie wasn't a mess?
Originally posted by -Pr-Sidious would tool Grievous and all of his bodyguards at the same time.
he went down like a b*tch, even though in TCW he could take on grievous and his bodyguards and hold his own.you honestly going to tell me that part of the movie wasn't a mess?
Being beaten by the Palpatine is no low feat.
Also, some Sith are clearly herald level.
Darth Nihilus has lifted his fleet from a gravity well, survived the planet rending power of the Mass Shadow Generator, and with a word was able to destroy all the life on a planet, and is seemingly capable of dsstroying its surface in the process. He also has his entire crew mentally enslaved, and is able to hold his flagship togather during space travel. His mere presence slowly drains those around them of life. He is also implied to have some form of cosmic awareness, at the very least he could accurately pinpoint the location of the Exile by her growing Force power.
Though Nihilus is an exception in terms of Sith rather than the rule, he is vastly above most SW characters.
Originally posted by -Pr-I thought thats what I said.But all of who I said is canon of the third nature.
Originally posted by -Pr-How could you claim that.In the movies he doesn't do much.But hes expanded apon in the books and that should add to his feats and make him a higher tier.Just because they don't do much or die in the movie doesn't contridict doing better stuff in books.
the problem is the movies, though.i could claim kit fisto is in fact a shite jedi based on the movies, regardless of what he did in TCW or the books.
Originally posted by -Pr-He actually held his own.
he went down like a b*tch, even though in TCW he could take on grievous and his bodyguards and hold his own.you honestly going to tell me that part of the movie wasn't a mess?
Originally posted by Omega VisionMace is a beast but I think it can be argued that palpatine held back against mace.He knew anikan would come back and ask for his help to save padma.So if he was holding back I'd call palpatine for elite meta and mace for high.
Well supposedly the three jedi that accompanied Mace were some of the best duelists in the order. Two of them got taken down like rank fodder without a fight but Kit Fitso actually managed to hold his own for a moment. That to me signifies he was above average. I mean we are talking about Sidious here, anyone who can match Mace Windu is uber skilled/powerful. Statements by Lucas and Samuel L Jackson pretty much affirm that Mace Windu was the only one among the Jedi with the skill and power to take down the Emperor, anyone else would have failed and that includes Kenobi or Skywalker and as seen in the movie even Yoda himself.
Originally posted by NemeBroThis is true.I should read up on nihilus as I am not sure where his power derives from but even he isn't the most powerful.
Sidious would tool Grievous and all of his bodyguards at the same time.Being beaten by the Palpatine is no low feat.
Also, some Sith are clearly herald level.
Darth Nihilus has lifted his fleet from a gravity well, survived the planet rending power of the Mass Shadow Generator, and with a word was able to destroy all the life on a planet, and is seemingly capable of dsstroying its surface in the process. He also has his entire crew mentally enslaved, and is able to hold his flagship togather during space travel. His mere presence slowly drains those around them of life. He is also implied to have some form of cosmic awareness, at the very least he could accurately pinpoint the location of the Exile by her growing Force power.
Though Nihilus is an exception in terms of Sith rather than the rule, he is vastly above most SW characters.
not this grievous
Originally posted by -Pr-
that's not THAT impressive. seriously. i don't know how you think that's amazing while dissing so many speed feats from high level comic characters.also, i thought the anime wasn't allowed?
So you can show me someone fighting at invisible speeds at a long period of time? Flash doesnt even do that all of the time or consistently enough for it to be a norm for him.
I agree, some anime isnt cannon but almost everything in DBZ anime was wrote and drawn and shown directly from the manga.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
You think someones who is supposed to be high is lower....thats like saying a regular superman is superior to a sundipped one.And if you think SS4 is lower then SS3 who is the strongest person you think SS3 can beat?
He SUPPOSE to be higher in power but he isnt. The writers messed the character up.
What do you mean who is the strongest person Super Saiyan 3 Goku can beat? Are you asking me who is the strongest he can beat out of Marvel and DC characters or Anime?
Originally posted by -Pr-No, that scene was fine, Sidious SHOULD be able to make Kit Fisto his ***** because Sidious is MUCH more powerful, only Mace or Yoda at the time could fight him at an equal or so level.
to everyone who responded to me:i said i COULD say that, not that i would say it. I like Kit Fisto. I just thin that scene made him look bad. I personally think it's major PIS.
Originally posted by carver9For the record guys, since carver cannot actually read my posts I figured I should tell ya'll, I have seen it calculated that in order for a human-sized object to be so fast as to be invisible, one would only need to be moving at about 200 miles per hour.
So you can show me someone fighting at invisible speeds at a long period of time? Flash doesnt even do that all of the time or consistently enough for it to be a norm for him.I agree, some anime isnt cannon but almost everything in DBZ anime was wrote and drawn and shown directly from the manga.
So DBZ characters being invisible in constant movement are going a minimum of 200 miles per hour.
Dude liek whoa, that'z like, soopah fast huh? 😐
Definately faster than Superman.
2. I would like to point out this is a bullshit statement. In the DBZ anime alot of the fight scenes were drawn out, and alot of shit was added that was not in the manga, which makes any feats that only happen in the anime invalidated.
Originally posted by NemeBro
For the record guys, since carver cannot actually read my posts I figured I should tell ya'll, I have seen it calculated that in order for a human-sized object to be so fast as to be invisible, one would only need to be moving at about 200 miles per hour.So DBZ characters being invisible in constant movement are going a minimum of 200 miles per hour.
Dude liek whoa, that'z like, soopah fast huh? 😐
Definately faster than Superman.
2. I would like to point out this is a bullshit statement. In the DBZ anime alot of the fight scenes were drawn out, and alot of shit was added that was not in the manga, which makes any feats that only happen in the anime invalidated.
So I guess that if you are seen battling during combat that would make you much slower than a person that is completely invisible during combat.
WHOO HOO, I guess since the person that you brought up earlier does not have any battle that partain to him being completely unseeable during combat makes him much slower.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
That's not good enough. Apologize to them.
uhuh
Originally posted by carver9
So you can show me someone fighting at invisible speeds at a long period of time? Flash doesnt even do that all of the time or consistently enough for it to be a norm for him.I agree, some anime isnt cannon but almost everything in DBZ anime was wrote and drawn and shown directly from the manga.
why do you assume that they would need to? you're also forgetting that it's a comic book. if you showed people moving so fast they were invisible to the naked eye, you would have a lot of empty looking panels.
heck, even superman and doomsday during dos were a blur at times during their fight, and that was pre several upgrades.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No, that scene was fine, Sidious SHOULD be able to make Kit Fisto his ***** because Sidious is MUCH more powerful, only Mace or Yoda at the time could fight him at an equal or so level.
kit fisto isn't that much of a retard, though.
Originally posted by -Pr-
uhuhwhy do you assume that they would need to? you're also forgetting that it's a comic book. if you showed people moving so fast they were invisible to the naked eye, you would have a lot of empty looking panels.
Flash has done it during battle. Look at his battle against Mongul, flash was moving at super speed mode throughout the entire battle. Look at flash vs Zoom battles, they are moving at Super Speed the entire time. Look at Amazo and Flash fight, they are moving at Super speed the entire time.
Hell, in one of Zooms fight, Zoom was fighting so fast that his hands were invisible.
I know what scene you are talking about with the blur from Superman and Doomsday fight but that was a fly blitz and after that they were fighting at normal speeds.
How about this then Pr... Gohun and Super Buu fighting... they are fighting so fast that when they crash through a small mountain the rock around them are still floating in the air while they are performing fighting techniques. They basically do an entire fighting scene before the rocks even gain the kinetic energy to fall on the ground (time basically stopped for them)..
Fast forward this to 2 min and 34 seconds.