Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Originally posted by carver9
Its a blast and what makes you think that DBZ blast doesnt contain any type of radiation?

Originally posted by marwash22
facepalm

Cheetah is faster than him... no one denies that. But the reason she hurts him, is because she's magical.

Cheetah is no where CLOSE to Goku speed wise before her upgrades.

Goku would physically hurt Superman and I dont see where you are getting that he cant. A kick that knocked Frieza through two mountains would do the job. If you dont think it wouldnt, here we have Doomsday throwing Superman head into a moutain stunning him.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/9-5.jpg

Goku kick should knock his lights out.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
This is kind of true.In say star wars the word of george lucas is law.

I see no reason why it would be different for Akira as they are both their own creators. Easily being able to keep up with flash,blitzing people like darkseid,etc...a CIS off supes would beat hoku easily.

So I take it that all of this is true:

Let's see...
Freeza: I'll rip you to shreds
Freeza: You'll never beat me!
Freeza: I'm the strongest in the universe.
Vegeta: I'm the strongest in the universe.
Baata: I'm the fastest in the universe.
Ginyu: No one's stronger than me, except for freeza.
Piccolo: I've done it - no matter how strong he is, it doesn't matter, I just obtained ULTIMATE POWER.
Freeza(to trunks): For us to get rid of a piece of trash like you is a piece of cake.
King Cold (about Trunks): Freeza! You did it. He was no match for us.
Kind Cold(also to Trunks): You definitely can't beat me!
Vegeta(to 16, 17, and 18): I'm going to grind you to bits!
17: There can't be anyone in this world strong enough to fight me.
Cell: When I achieve my perfect form, I will be the most powerful being imaginable!
17: I'm the ultimate Warrior.
Cell: I'm impossible to kill
Cell: No one can stand against me!
Cell: If I had my perfect form, I'd be perfect in every way! I wouldn't lose to anyone!
Cell(to Gohan): Even if you lived for a hundred years, you'd never be able to kill me.
Cell(to Gohan): You can't possibly believe you could beat me.
Cell(to Gohan): There's no way I can lose to you!
Cell(to Gohan): I won't let you win!
Cell: I've gathered enough ki not only to destroy the planet, but the whole solar system!
Cell: I'm going to finish you now.
Pipi: Babi-di is on the bottom, but you'll have to get through me. You'll die here.
Dabura: If you use Yakon, they'll be defeated!
Dabura: Yakon should be strong enough to beat them easily!
Dabura: I'll finish them off.
Dabura: No one can beat me with strength.
Buu: No one could be stronger than I!
Buu: They're no match for me! Even if they Fuse!
Buu: Super Vegetto? So what?
Buu: Do you actually think you have a chance?
Buu: I won't lose to someone like you!
Buu: Haha! You're helpless.

Since Akira Toriyama wrote it, right?

Even though those were proven wrong, on panel. But Akira Toriyama wrote it so its true, despite being proven false?

Originally posted by carver9
Its a blast and what makes you think that DBZ blast doesnt contain any type of radiation?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
WHo was that quote from?

If you can prove that ki force is just a form of pure force energy and that superman is not affected much by it I will concede.

lemme guess, you're gonna discredit wiki? Do you honestly believe ki energy is anything more than pure force? If so, this means you're claiming that everyone in the DBZ universe is immune to radiation poisoning. The amount of energy these people have pumped out over the years would have permanently left the planet inhabitable if Ki energy were anything more than pure force.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So I take it that all of this is true:

Since Akira Toriyama wrote it, right?

Even though those were proven wrong, on panel. But Akira Toriyama wrote it so its true, despite being proven false?

When was it proven wrong? When has any DBZ character ever try to destroy a solar system besides Cell and we know why Cell failed? You are not making sense.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So I take it that all of this is true:

Since Akira Toriyama wrote it, right?

Even though those were proven wrong, on panel. But Akira Toriyama wrote it so its true, despite being proven false?

The magna is the most canon then the anime.Unless what he says contridicts the anime or magna its true.

I'm talking about direct words from akira.Not the statements of the villian as some were obviously proven false.

But if there is an interview where he states cell should be able to destroy a galaxy it should be no less law for DBZ the GL for star wars.

Although i'm not sure if carver meant an interview or the show.If an interview please post scans.

Originally posted by marwash22
wiki.

lemme guess, you're gonna discredit wiki? Do you honestly believe ki energy is anything more than pure force? If so, this means you're claiming that everyone in the DBZ universe is immune to radiation poisoning. The amount of energy these people have pumped out over the years would have permanently left the planet inhabitable if Ki ebergy were anything more than pure force.

Its a comic dude. All the things that has happened on the DC and Marvel planet, I cant believe there is still life on it.

Originally posted by marwash22
wiki.

lemme guess, you're gonna discredit wiki? Do you honestly believe ki energy is anything more than pure force? If so, this means you're claiming that everyone in the DBZ universe is immune to radiation poisoning. The amount of energy these people have pumped out over the years would have permanently left the planet inhabitable if Ki energy were anything more than pure force.

1: I'm not saying wiki is wrong and I accept it as a good source but could you either get a second source or post the page from wiki?
2: I'm not saying it was radiative energy but that its not just pure force.Its obviously not radiative.

Originally posted by carver9
Its a comic dude. All the things that has happened on the DC and Marvel planet, I cant believe there is still life on it.

1. Ki energy is NOT pure force.
2. Ki energy contains radiation.
3. All beings in the DBZ universe are immune to radiation poisoning.

GTFO!

Originally posted by marwash22
Oh shit! So you are claiming that...

1. Ki energy is NOT pure force.
2. Ki energy contains radiation.
3. All beings in the DBZ universe are immune to radiation poisoning.

GTFO!

It obviously doesn't contain radiation.I said that.Read it.

All i'm saying is i'm not sure if ki energy is pure force.Not sure what it is though.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Two things

1: I'm not saying wiki is wrong and I accept it as a good source but could you either get a second source or post the page from wiki?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
2: I'm not saying it was radiative energy but that its not just pure force.Its obviously not radiative.

You're contradicting yourself...

if it's not pure force, then it contains some kind of radiological element. Which is it?

Originally posted by marwash22
Two things

1: I'm not saying wiki is wrong and I accept it as a good source but could you either get a second source or post the page from wiki?[B]

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Ki

2: I'm not saying it was radiative energy but that its not just pure force.Its obviously not radiative.

You're contradicting yourself...

if it's not pure force, then it contains some kind of radiological element. Which is it? [/B]

Let's see...
Freeza: I'll rip you to shreds
proven false when he wasn't ripped to shreds

Freeza: You'll never beat me!
proven wrong when freeza was beaten

Freeza: I'm the strongest in the universe.
Proven wrong when someone else was stronger.

Vegeta: I'm the strongest in the universe.
Proven wrong when someone else was stronger.

Baata: I'm the fastest in the universe.
Proven wrong when someone else was faster.

Ginyu: No one's stronger than me, except for freeza.
Proven wrong when someone else other than freeza was stronger.

Piccolo: I've done it - no matter how strong he is, it doesn't matter, I just obtained ULTIMATE POWER.
Except that it wasn't the ultimate power.

Freeza(to trunks): For us to get rid of a piece of trash like you is a piece of cake.
King Cold (about Trunks): Freeza! You did it. He was no match for us.
Kind Cold(also to Trunks): You definitely can't beat me!
Proven wrong when Trunks beat them.

Vegeta(to 16, 17, and 18): I'm going to grind you to bits!
Proven wrong when he couldn't grind them to bits.

17: There can't be anyone in this world strong enough to fight me.
Proven wrong when Cell fought him.

Cell: When I achieve my perfect form, I will be the most powerful being imaginable!
Proven wrong when Gohan beat him.

17: I'm the ultimate Warrior.
Proven wrong when Cell beat him.

Cell: I'm impossible to kill
Proven wrong when Gohan killed him.

Cell: No one can stand against me!
Proven wrong when Gohan stood against him.

Cell: If I had my perfect form, I'd be perfect in every way! I wouldn't lose to anyone!
Proven wrong when he lost to Gohan.

Cell(to Gohan): Even if you lived for a hundred years, you'd never be able to kill me.
Proven wrong when Gohan killed him with out living to 100 years.

Cell(to Gohan): You can't possibly believe you could beat me.
Proven wrong when Gohan receive encouragment from Goku.

Cell(to Gohan): There's no way I can lose to you!
Proven wrong when he lost to Gohan.

Cell(to Gohan): I won't let you win!
Proven wrong when he failed to stop Gohan from winning.

Cell: I've gathered enough ki not only to destroy the planet, but the whole solar system!
Everything else he's said in this list has been lies. Why should this be true?

Cell: I'm going to finish you now.
Proven wrong when he didn't finish him.

Pipi: Babi-di is on the bottom, but you'll have to get through me. You'll die here.
Proven wrong when they didn't die there.

Dabura: If you use Yakon, they'll be defeated!
Proven wrong when he used Yakon and they weren't defeated.

Dabura: Yakon should be strong enough to beat them easily!
Proven wrong when Yakon didn't beat them easily.

Dabura: I'll finish them off.
Proven wrong when Dabura didn't finish them off.

Dabura: No one can beat me with strength.
Proven wrong when he was beaten.

I'm noticing a pattern here...

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Quote me where I said this....seriously read my posts.

It obviously doesn't contain radiation.I said that.Read it.

All i'm saying is i'm not sure if ki energy is pure force.Not sure what it is though.

I read the scan and it said it was a force energy.Didn't say it was pure force.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'm talking about what he says off panel.

The magna is the most canon then the anime.Unless what he says contridicts the anime or magna its true.

I'm talking about direct words from akira.Not the statements of the villian as some were obviously proven false.

But if there is an interview where he states cell should be able to destroy a galaxy it should be no less law for DBZ the GL for star wars.

Although i'm not sure if carver meant an interview or the show.If an interview please post scans.

It was during a live video and it WAS on you tube. If you Google it you'll see small clips of it but its so old that you are unable to activate the vid. Try you tubing it.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Quote me where I said this....seriously read my posts.

It obviously doesn't contain radiation.I said that.Read it.

All i'm saying is i'm not sure if ki energy is pure force.Not sure what it is though.

Originally posted by marwash22
wasn't directed toward you. You responded before i could edit the post. That was directed to Carver.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Let's see...
Freeza: I'll rip you to shreds
proven false when he wasn't ripped to shreds

Freeza: You'll never beat me!
proven wrong when freeza was beaten

Freeza: I'm the strongest in the universe.
Proven wrong when someone else was stronger.

Vegeta: I'm the strongest in the universe.
Proven wrong when someone else was stronger.

Baata: I'm the fastest in the universe.
Proven wrong when someone else was faster.

Ginyu: No one's stronger than me, except for freeza.
Proven wrong when someone else other than freeza was stronger.

Piccolo: I've done it - no matter how strong he is, it doesn't matter, I just obtained ULTIMATE POWER.
Except that it wasn't the ultimate power.

Freeza(to trunks): For us to get rid of a piece of trash like you is a piece of cake.
King Cold (about Trunks): Freeza! You did it. He was no match for us.
Kind Cold(also to Trunks): You definitely can't beat me!
Proven wrong when Trunks beat them.

Vegeta(to 16, 17, and 18): I'm going to grind you to bits!
Proven wrong when he couldn't grind them to bits.

17: There can't be anyone in this world strong enough to fight me.
Proven wrong when Cell fought him.

Cell: When I achieve my perfect form, I will be the most powerful being imaginable!
Proven wrong when Gohan beat him.

17: I'm the ultimate Warrior.
Proven wrong when Cell beat him.

Cell: I'm impossible to kill
Proven wrong when Gohan killed him.

Cell: No one can stand against me!
Proven wrong when Gohan stood against him.

Cell: If I had my perfect form, I'd be perfect in every way! I wouldn't lose to anyone!
Proven wrong when he lost to Gohan.

Cell(to Gohan): Even if you lived for a hundred years, you'd never be able to kill me.
Proven wrong when Gohan killed him with out living to 100 years.

Cell(to Gohan): You can't possibly believe you could beat me.
Proven wrong when Gohan receive encouragment from Goku.

Cell(to Gohan): There's no way I can lose to you!
Proven wrong when he lost to Gohan.

Cell(to Gohan): I won't let you win!
Proven wrong when he failed to stop Gohan from winning.

Cell: I've gathered enough ki not only to destroy the planet, but the whole solar system!
Everything else he's said in this list has been lies. Why should this be true?

Cell: I'm going to finish you now.
Proven wrong when he didn't finish him.

Pipi: Babi-di is on the bottom, but you'll have to get through me. You'll die here.
Proven wrong when they didn't die there.

Dabura: If you use Yakon, they'll be defeated!
Proven wrong when he used Yakon and they weren't defeated.

Dabura: Yakon should be strong enough to beat them easily!
Proven wrong when Yakon didn't beat them easily.

Dabura: I'll finish them off.
Proven wrong when Dabura didn't finish them off.

Dabura: No one can beat me with strength.
Proven wrong when he was beaten.

I'm noticing a pattern here...

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I'm talking about what he says off panel.

The magna is the most canon then the anime.Unless what he says contridicts the anime or magna its true.

I'm talking about direct words from akira.Not the statements of the villian as some were obviously proven false.

But if there is an interview where he states cell should be able to destroy a galaxy it should be no less law for DBZ the GL for star wars.

Although i'm not sure if carver meant an interview or the show.If an interview please post scans.

Originally posted by Creshosk

I'm noticing a pattern here...

I know, I've been tracking the pattern of your awesomeness.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Let's see...
Freeza: I'll rip you to shreds
proven false when he wasn't ripped to shreds

Freeza: You'll never beat me!
proven wrong when freeza was beaten

Freeza: I'm the strongest in the universe.
Proven wrong when someone else was stronger.

Vegeta: I'm the strongest in the universe.
Proven wrong when someone else was stronger.

Baata: I'm the fastest in the universe.
Proven wrong when someone else was faster.

Ginyu: No one's stronger than me, except for freeza.
Proven wrong when someone else other than freeza was stronger.

Piccolo: I've done it - no matter how strong he is, it doesn't matter, I just obtained ULTIMATE POWER.
Except that it wasn't the ultimate power.

Freeza(to trunks): For us to get rid of a piece of trash like you is a piece of cake.
King Cold (about Trunks): Freeza! You did it. He was no match for us.
Kind Cold(also to Trunks): You definitely can't beat me!
Proven wrong when Trunks beat them.

Vegeta(to 16, 17, and 18): I'm going to grind you to bits!
Proven wrong when he couldn't grind them to bits.

17: There can't be anyone in this world strong enough to fight me.
Proven wrong when Cell fought him.

Cell: When I achieve my perfect form, I will be the most powerful being imaginable!
Proven wrong when Gohan beat him.

17: I'm the ultimate Warrior.
Proven wrong when Cell beat him.

Cell: I'm impossible to kill
Proven wrong when Gohan killed him.

Cell: No one can stand against me!
Proven wrong when Gohan stood against him.

Cell: If I had my perfect form, I'd be perfect in every way! I wouldn't lose to anyone!
Proven wrong when he lost to Gohan.

Cell(to Gohan): Even if you lived for a hundred years, you'd never be able to kill me.
Proven wrong when Gohan killed him with out living to 100 years.

Cell(to Gohan): You can't possibly believe you could beat me.
Proven wrong when Gohan receive encouragment from Goku.

Cell(to Gohan): There's no way I can lose to you!
Proven wrong when he lost to Gohan.

Cell(to Gohan): I won't let you win!
Proven wrong when he failed to stop Gohan from winning.

Cell: I've gathered enough ki not only to destroy the planet, but the whole solar system!
Everything else he's said in this list has been lies. Why should this be true?

Cell: I'm going to finish you now.
Proven wrong when he didn't finish him.

Pipi: Babi-di is on the bottom, but you'll have to get through me. You'll die here.
Proven wrong when they didn't die there.

Dabura: If you use Yakon, they'll be defeated!
Proven wrong when he used Yakon and they weren't defeated.

Dabura: Yakon should be strong enough to beat them easily!
Proven wrong when Yakon didn't beat them easily.

Dabura: I'll finish them off.
Proven wrong when Dabura didn't finish them off.

Dabura: No one can beat me with strength.
Proven wrong when he was beaten.

I'm noticing a pattern here...

I dont get your post and it is kind of hilarious. Majority, hell, all of it is people talking sh**. Even Superman does this, look at his fight against Black Adam, he states "that punch was hard enough to split a moon in half". 😕