Originally posted by marwash22This is true.Babidis magic is shit
nah, as usual, you're wanking over DBZ character's. All the feats your just mentioned for Babadi can be performed by the lowest magicians in Marvel/DC. Point is, Babadi just simply doesn't compare to Marvel/Dc magicians. Babadi would wet himself in the presence of Fate or Strange.
Originally posted by Black bolt zI'm not doubting their power or feats... just wondering how any of that creates a scenario where Anyone DBZ character beats Superman. I already put to rest the notion that any ki attack would do anyting but slow Clark down...
People like vegeta when he first came to earth was a planet buster.Goku can release massive amounts of energy(IMO enough to do a good amount of damage to supes)has very high combat speed(though not nearly as high as supes.But in a CIS on sceniaro supes doesn't really use his speed that much)is a master of MA i'd say almost on par with the likes of cap and batman,has high damage soak with feats like easily being punched through hundreds of feet of rock and being fine(still not as good as supes though)and has instant transmission.Thats SS2.He would lose to supes but not by much.
Up all that a tier or two and IMO SS3 goku beats supes.
I'm still waiting on those scans of a (non-radiated) force beam hurting Supes.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Ok thats a complete lie and your downplaying him.If supes fights smartly hsi could own goku but in a CIS on fight supes probably wouldn't be moving any faster then goku.Goku can shatter mountains with punches and just by him and buu punching each other they shattered miles of land so he [b]can
hurt supes.And in the above I posted gokus durability feats and thats just off the top of my head.
Stop downplaying them. [/B]
What battles of Superman are you using that makes you think he could curbstomp Goku with CIS off?
Originally posted by carver9
This is why. Superman was in serious trouble against Cheetah and Cheetah was blitzing the hell out of him and Superman was getting stomped.Cheetah doesnt have ONE SHOWING that put her punching power, speed, durability, or power close to even black hair Goku.
http://i42.tinypic.com/iejh4x.jpg
Is Superman powerful, yes, he is powerful as hell but he isnt beating Goku.
Originally posted by marwash22Its not just force.Its ki energy which i'm not sure how it works.
I'm not doubting their power or feats... just wondering how any of that creates a scenario where Anyone DBZ character beats Superman. I already put to rest the notion that any ki attack would do anyting but slow Clark down...I'm still waiting on those scans of a (non-radiated) force beam hurting Supes.
Pretty much either it will completely work or completely fail.IMO there is nothing to say it wouldn't affect him but if someone has scans of ki force hitting supes...you can't compare one energy not hurting supes to ki energy not hurting him.
Originally posted by NemeBroI'm surprised he believes Cell's trash talking.
Yet Goku and Vegeta had to escape the planet or a planet busting attack would have killed them.Does anyone actually believe the shit he says?
There's nothing to prove that Cell was capable of destroying a solar system. In fact given how the final showdown with Gohan went all that happened was a crater was left on the planet.
Originally posted by marwash22
I'm not doubting their power or feats... just wondering how any of that creates a scenario where Anyone DBZ character beats Superman. I already put to rest the notion that any ki attack would do anyting but slow Clark down...I'm still waiting on those scans of a (non-radiated) force beam hurting Supes.
How about Dr. Light one shotting him with a blast. How about Doctor Poloris stunning him with a blast. How about Superman dehydrating when he was hit with a nuke.
Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm surprised he believes Cell's trash talking.There's nothing to prove that Cell was capable of destroying a solar system. In fact given how the final showdown with Gohan went all that happened was a crater was left on the planet.
How about Akira himself saying that Cell had enough power to destroy a Solar System.
When the writer states it, it is past trash talk.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
The fact that goku always fights at full speed and if superman choose to move at full speed goku would barley be moving to him.CIS off superman would beat goku easily.
Now show me Superman fighting at this speed that you are stating. Show me a COMBAT speed feat that you are basing this off of.
Originally posted by Black bolt z"Ki is the force energy used by the Dragon Ball/Z/GT characters"... it's pure force. Once again, it's akin to Cyclops' optic beam, there's nothing behind it but pure force... Superman would wade through to a kamehameha wave just like Juggs wades through Cyclops optic beam.
Its not just force.Its ki energy which i'm not sure how it works.Pretty much either it will completely work or completely fail.IMO there is nothing to say it wouldn't affect him but if someone has scans of ki force hitting supes...you can't compare one energy not hurting supes to ki energy not hurting him.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Is Carver back to his hateraid again, using low showings only?
Show me a high showing combat speed feat then. I can show you numerous of feats to back up my claim.
Show me this high showing combat speed feat. Let me guess, you are going to put up the Doomsday rex feat, how fast is Doomsday by the way? Can he fight at Goku as a child level of speed? If you say yes, show me a speed feat.
Originally posted by carver9This is kind of true.In say star wars the word of george lucas is law.
How about Akira himself saying that Cell had enough power to destroy a Solar System.When the writer states it, it is past trash talk.
I see no reason why it would be different for Akira as they are both their own creators.
Originally posted by carver9Easily being able to keep up with flash,blitzing people like darkseid,etc...a CIS off supes would beat hoku easily.
Now show me Superman fighting at this speed that you are stating. Show me a COMBAT speed feat that you are basing this off of.
Originally posted by carver9facepalm
How about Dr. Light one shotting him with a blast. How about Doctor Poloris stunning him with a blast. How about Superman dehydrating when he was hit with a nuke.
What part of NON RADIATED did you not understand?
Originally posted by carver9Cheetah is faster than him... no one denies that. But the reason she hurts him, is because she's magical.
WTF does that have to do with Superman getting blitzed throughout the entire fight? I guess since Thor is magical he can blitz Superman as well.
Originally posted by marwash22
[b]"Ki is the force energy used by the Dragon Ball/Z/GT characters"... it's pure force. Once again, it's akin to Cyclops' optic beam, there's nothing behind it but pure force... Superman would wade through to a kamehameha wave just like Juggs wades through Cyclops optic beam. [/B]
Show me him wading through blast. Again, Doctor light one shotted him and Ironman during a CANNON crossover almost koed Superman with a blast. Grog busted his nose with a blast. The list goes on.
Originally posted by marwash22WHo was that quote from?
[b]"Ki is the force energy used by the Dragon Ball/Z/GT characters"... it's pure force. Once again, it's akin to Cyclops' optic beam, there's nothing behind it but pure force... Superman would wade through to a kamehameha wave just like Juggs wades through Cyclops optic beam. [/B]
If you can prove that ki force is just a form of pure force energy and that superman is not affected much by it I will concede.
