Originally posted by Black bolt zAre you asking me to back up carver's claims? Or was that part directed at carver?
Sorry.
Also why exactly is there a debate on what ki is? It's not a concept that's unique to DBZ, though DBZ does tend to take it to more extreme measures than others. It's a basic concept in eastern philosophy.
Originally posted by carver9Post it please.
It was during a live video and it WAS on you tube. If you Google it you'll see small clips of it but its so old that you are unable to activate the vid. Try you tubing it.
Originally posted by CreshoskWHat?
He was quoting carver. Who attempted and failed at an no you/et tu fallacy.
Originally posted by carver9
I dont get your post and it is kind of hilarious. Majority, hell, all of it is people talking sh**. Even Superman does this, look at his fight against Black Adam, he states "that punch was hard enough to split a moon in half". 😕
Adam is durable enough to take that type of force though...
Originally posted by CreshoskI accidently responded to it though he hadn't edited yet.It was directed at carver and it made him seem like he didn't read my posts.I apolgized.
Are you asking me to back up carver's claims? Or was that part directed at carver?Also why exactly is there a debate on what ki is? It's not a concept that's unique to DBZ, though DBZ does tend to take it to more extreme measures than others. It's a basic concept in eastern philosophy.
We are arguing what exactly ki in DBZ terms is.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Adam is durable enough to take that type of force though...
If Superman can punch that hard, why did he have to fly at light speed in space to destroy a moon instead of just getting on top of it punching it. Then it koed him.
If Superman can punch that strong, why did it take the entire kryptonian race to put a moon back into orbit?
Originally posted by carver9Nah, you're not making sense.
I dont get your post and it is kind of hilarious. Majority, hell, all of it is people talking sh**. Even Superman does this, look at his fight against Black Adam, he states "that punch was hard enough to split a moon in half". 😕
Superman claiming that the punch was strong enough to shatter the moon, was not proven to be inaccurate. However, all the things DBZ people claimed to be definitives were proven wrong when they were killed after making the statements.
In one case, you have Black Adam tanking a punch... a testiment to his durability.
In the other case, you have DBZ characters being proven wrong.
Originally posted by carver9Because the moon is heavy.Show goku moving the moon....
If Superman can punch that hard, why did he have to fly at light speed in space to destroy a moon instead of just getting on top of it punching it. Then it koed him.If Superman can punch that strong, why did it take the entire kryptonian race to put a moon back into orbit?
Originally posted by Black bolt zIt's a form of life energy that exists in everything. Same as the Eastern philosophy.
I accidently responded to it though he hadn't edited yet.It was directed at carver and it made him seem like he didn't read my posts.I apolgized.We are arguing what exactly ki in DBZ terms is.
An ultimate technique of this is the genki dama.
It's also possible to expell all of it at once in a kamikaze attack. This of course proves fatal to the user, as Vegeta found out when he tried valliantly to take out buu.
Originally posted by CreshoskWell marwash is arguing that its a pure force energy and that superman takes no damage from that.
It's a form of life energy that exists in everything. Same as the Eastern philosophy.An ultimate technique of this is the genki dama.
It's also possible to expell all of it at once in a kamikaze attack. This of course proves fatal to the user, as Vegeta found out when he tried valliantly to take out buu.
I so far haven't seen evidence that in DBZ its just a pure force energy.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I accidently responded to it though he hadn't edited yet.It was directed at carver and it made him seem like he didn't read my posts.I apolgized.We are arguing what exactly ki in DBZ terms is.
The vid use to be on this youtube video but it is disabled.
Its this interview but it had subtitles...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&postid=12877343
Originally posted by Black bolt zI'd say its more of a concussive thermal bioelectric energy. It does have concussive properties as it has occured that a person takes the blast and is pushed along with it. Other times its used for punching holes through things. Though when it cuts through a perso nit appears to cauterize a wound. and of course you get the visual electic part in some of the super saiyan forms.
Well marwash is arguing that its a pure force energy and that superman takes no damage from that.I so far haven't seen evidence that in DBZ its just a pure force energy.
Originally posted by marwash22
Nah, you're not making sense.Superman claiming that the punch was strong enough to shatter the moon, was not proven to be inaccurate. However, all the things DBZ people claimed to be definitives were proven wrong when they were killed after making the statements.
In one case, you have Black Adam tanking a punch... a testiment to his durability.
In the other case, you have DBZ characters being proven wrong.
Superman NEVER destroyed a moon and another thing, he didnt hit Adam with the punch. Now the only way that statement of Superman punch being able to destroy a moon is if you actually have a panel of him physically destroying one which has never happened.
Originally posted by carver9I didn't see the question on the first one and the second one is a response link...
The vid use to be on this youtube video but it is disabled.Its this interview but it had subtitles...
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&postid=12877343
Originally posted by CreshoskI applaud your logic.Not sure if its right but it sounds very accurate.
I'd say its more of a concussive thermal bioelectric energy. It does have concussive properties as it has occured that a person takes the blast and is pushed along with it. Other times its used for punching holes through things. Though when it cuts through a perso nit appears to cauterize a wound. and of course you get the visual electic part in some of the super saiyan forms.
Originally posted by marwash22So if something isn't pure force it has to have radiation?Light isn't pure force and it doesn't have radiation.Its not what you think it is.
Well, if it's not pure force, then it contains some sort of radiation... you're making the claim, so what kind of radiation is it?
Originally posted by carver9
How about Dr. Light one shotting him with a blast. How about Doctor Poloris stunning him with a blast. How about Superman dehydrating when he was hit with a nuke.
trust you to pick the lowest showings you can find, and then take them out of context.
nice 👆
Originally posted by carver9
Superman NEVER destroyed a moon and another thing, he didnt hit Adam with the punch. Now the only way that statement of Superman punch being able to destroy a moon is if you actually have a panel of him physically destroying one which has never happened.
this coming from the guy who spouts mcduffie jla every chance he gets? come on now.
and cheetah being faster than him is debatable at best.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Because the moon is heavy.Show goku moving the moon....
How can I show you Goku moving a moon when all in all, he never had a reason to do so. Thats like me asking you to show me a strength feat from Thanos, Darkseid, Doomsday, Konvikt, or Frieza when they really dont have any but I do know one thing, going by showings, their punching power is>Supermans.
Originally posted by marwash22No. Electricity is not radioactive. It's a stream of electrons. The same things that are the bioelectric impulses that control your muscles to allow you to live.
Well, if it's not pure force, then it contains some sort of radiation... you're making the claim, so what kind of radiation is it?
Thermal while related to kinetic energy is a different type. The matter that is conducting the heat is simple that the molecules of the said matter are in an excited state and are moving as much as their molecular bonds allow given the amount of excitment within said molecules.
Kinetic in both potential and realized form is a more uniform and unified version of thermal energy.
Originally posted by -Pr-
trust you to pick the lowest showings you can find, and then take them out of context.nice 👆
this coming from the guy who spouts mcduffie jla every chance he gets? come on now.
and cheetah being faster than him is debatable at best.
I will say the same thing about Goku, I dont think he have the punching power to destroy a moon either since he doesnt have the feats. I will also say that about Gladiator, he doesnt have the punching power to one shot a moon, WWH doesnt either.
Mcduffie is a good writer to me.
Originally posted by carver9SO are you saying goku can move the moon because he never has?
How can I show you Goku moving a moon when all in all, he never had a reason to do so. Thats like me asking you to show me a strength feat from Thanos, Darkseid, Doomsday, Konvikt, or Frieza when they really dont have any but I do know one thing, going by showings, their punching power is>Supermans.