Originally posted by illadelph12Meh. Inuyasha managed to cut through adamantine iirc, something in-universe being "unbreakable" doesn't necessarily translate to super awesomeo strength.
Not to get in the middle of this, but didn't Goku break an unbreakable sword made of "kachin" (spelling?) which released Elder Kai from being trapped inside of it (Buu Saga)? That's a kinda impressive strength feat (breaking an 'unbreakable' metal, or at least whenever someone does it to adamantium it's considered a high end strength feat).
Originally posted by illadelph12Actually, the block Gohan slashed at with the Z Sword was made of Kachin, the densest metal in the universe, and Gohan could not cut it, it snapped in two.
Not to get in the middle of this, but didn't Goku break an unbreakable sword made of "kachin" (spelling?) which released Elder Kai from being trapped inside of it (Buu Saga)? That's a kinda impressive strength feat (breaking an 'unbreakable' metal, or at least whenever someone does it to adamantium it's considered a high end strength feat).
Originally posted by Omega Vision
How many Superman comics have you actually read?He's portrayed at High Herald levels quite consistently to the point that you'd have to be ignorant or just plain full of hate to argue otherwise.
Would you like for me to post these showings. Everything that is shown about Superman is considered low showings or PIS by you all but you accept EVERY high end feats instead of his regular. I can go on for days about his regular showings but I know that you all will throw it out of the window.
Just like Tyrant said, Freiza would STOMP Superman if you use his regular, standard showings.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Most of the movies are non-canon to the main series due to events in them taking place in an asynchronous manner.I'm taking about the on panel stated black haired goku.
We get no other times when what he's trying to lift is stated.
In other words you haven't read enough to know that what he's saying is true. You're probably left over scraps from the movie codec invasion and have only been shown superman's low showings.
The thing that contradicts your one showing of black hair Goku only being able to lift 10 tons is him one kicking Frieza through two mountains, something that even Superman never shown capable of doing unless he had some outside amp or a bizarro funny land comic.
Originally posted by carver9😬
Would you like for me to post these showings. Everything that is shown about Superman is considered low showings or PIS by you all but you accept EVERY high end feats instead of his regular. I can go on for days about his regular showings but I know that you all will throw it out of the window.Just like Tyrant said, Freiza would STOMP Superman if you use his regular, standard showings.
That doesn't make any goddamn sense. Superman, unlike Frieza, has been around for longer than any of us (and our parent's) have been alive. If Frieza had the kinda of exposure that Superman has had in his run, Frieza would have low showings as well... but considering he was only apart of one arc in a very short manga/anime (short, in relation to comics), all he has is high showings.
Originally posted by amnesia
Ok, give me one REALLY impressive durability or strength feat from a DBZ character.
Vegeta standing in the heart of an atomic bomb blast with a smile on his face and didnt suffer any damage at all. Vegeta being hit by a Kamehameha wave that had enough energy to deflect his planet destroying blast and tanked it. Goku as a teen standing in the heart of a nuke without suffering any damage. Being punched through mountains without suffering any damage. Being hit by a blast that completely levels a city and suffers no damage at all.
Now remember, Thor recently went through SOME of the same things and was either fatigued or dropped.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Actually, the block Gohan slashed at with the Z Sword was made of Kachin, the densest metal in the universe, and Gohan could not cut it, it snapped in two.
Originally posted by Bentley
It was actually Gohan failing to break the hardest material of the universe with a heavy sword of an untold material.
Ah, ok. I remembered it wrong. It's been a while since I've watched the shows. Thanks for the correction.
Originally posted by marwash22
😬That doesn't make any goddamn sense. Superman, unlike Frieza, has been around for longer than any of us (and our parent's) have been alive. If Frieza had the kinda of exposure that Superman has had in his run, Frieza would have low showings as well... but considering he was only apart of one arc in a very short manga/anime (short, in relation to comics), all he has is high showings.
Thats why you base things off of his normal showings, not his high end because EVERYONE has that. If we go by high showings, no one under Hulk would be able to stop Wolverine. If we go by high showings, Ironman can stalemate and possibly beat Thor. Superman regular doesnt put him anywhere NEAR frieza.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Except that Supes is way faster and way stronger than Frieza is at his highest.
Again, what is his speed combat wise for you to say that he is way faster because looking at his fights that you all tend to ignore, he is NO WHERE near frieza combat speed wise.
There is nothing contradicting this statement from Superman. Of course he have space flight that shows him going light speed but EVERYONE has that but Superman himself admitted during a training session with Mongul Jr that earths gravity bring down his abilities.
There is nothing contradicting this statement from Superman while being on a planet.
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/Wally_Respect2/lendsupli.jpg
And lets not forget, he was flying through space like at tremendous speeds during this time as well.
I'll refer you to the post I made in response to you last time, Carver.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I don't know if these exist, I am pretty ignorant when it comes to Superman feats. I've been trusting in the words of others. However, if most of Superman's fights take place on a planet it would probably destroy most of the stuff on that planet if he was zooming around on it at light speed.However, I was a huge fan of DBZ when it was on TV and watched the series up to Frieza saga at least 7 times and post Frieza probably more than that. And the only thing I've seen in DBZ that MIGHT be faster than light is Goku's instant transmission which is not a constant thing.
Combat speed has nothing to put it above travel speed in DBZ. Except perhaps that it looks faster, and of course it looks faster, it's over shorter distances. Travel speed is just as fast if not faster.
You know, I should wait for light speed combat feats as well. Only I'd like mine from DBZ please.
Come to think of it DBZ speed for quite a while may be under the speed of sound. They hold conversations while flying to places, don't they?
