Originally posted by Black bolt zWe were talking about bardock that takes place as a flashback.
A talented person with the force could do that.Given the scrap metal. Is the broly between cell and buu?I don't see a timeline mess up...
Originally posted by Black bolt zIf he could do what's being claimed why didn't he sooner? If he has the power to one shot a planet casually while in his first form why didn't he?
And like what anime contradictions.
Why did it take so long?
Given the executive meddling that was all over the place in Dragonball and DragonBallZ It seems obvious that the bardock special was merely added as extra story to ilk from the customers based off of two panels.
Originally posted by Black bolt zThat's fine, you're not being "Superman can't take a punch from colossus" about it.
Thank you.I don't like putting anyone on ignore.I just like to argue what I believe.
Originally posted by Black bolt zEven if they don't intentionally set it up, each different medium that has elements that are not part of the previous story or don't fit
Becuase star wars has a list of cannonsity unlike DBZ and games are considered canon.
Indicate an alternate universe. Where the story is different and the characters are not the same characters.
Unless you'd like to tell me where that occurs?
Or like in the movie with janemba when both Goku and Vegeta are dead in hell together? or when the "undead apocalypse" takes place in the anime?
Originally posted by Omega VisionWell so your agreeing that he could be mid meta?I say at minimum high meta.
Mid Meta. Maybe. Destroying a building isn't beyond the capability of Harry Dresden who I consider Low-Mid Meta and being very difficult to kill isn't in of itself a Herald ability. Who the **** cares if he has skill with the lightsaber? Gamora has incredible fighting skill but she isn't higher than Mid Meta IMO, even though her skill would allow her to fight Heralds.
I really can't see him being KO'd by anyone other then high end mid heralders.
Originally posted by NemeBroThere' no prep involved; he draws blood, put's his hands on the ground and they're resurrected. Summoning literally takes less time than a kamehameha wave.
Prep doesn't count. Oro cannot summon the dead without prep. If we count prep, Reed Richards is a Transcendant.
EDIT: i don't even think he draws blood for that one.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Quantify it Carver.
Quantify what? The burden of proof is on YOU. I admit, when characters power up, things do float but I have never seen in dbz where rocks float during the time that they are fighting due to ki. Please show me this and prove me wrong and stop making up things to down play these characters feats. You will not accept ANYTHING... you wont even accept what the writers said about the characters.
I truly dont know what to tell you but I would still like that proof.
Originally posted by NemeBroYou thought I was talking about sion.I was talking about nihilus.
1. Can you like, type better? Your posts are hard to read.2. Yes, Nihilus is able to make Sion his absolute *****. One is a Force behemoth who pulled a fleet of ships from a gravity well and can eat all the life on planets. The other is a dumb brute who is just hard to kill. Sidious is far more powerful than Sion, Sidious is a better duelist and far superior in the Force.
3. Funnily enough, Nihilus has the better durability feat, surviving the Mass Shadow Generator's destruction of Malachor V.
Also, Sion cannot topple buildings with the Force, he's never done it. He never so much as performed a Force Push in the games.
Like I said sidious has a little higher offense but not massivly.And sion has massive durability that I say would let him beat sidious.
How would that be compared to anything?
Originally posted by Black bolt z
You thought I was talking about sion.I was talking about nihilus.Like I said sidious has a little higher offense but not massivly.And sion has massive durability that I say would let him beat sidious.
How would that be compared to anything?
Originally posted by NemeBroYou thought I was talking about sion.I was talking about nihilus.
1. Can you like, type better? Your posts are hard to read.2. Yes, Nihilus is able to make Sion his absolute *****. One is a Force behemoth who pulled a fleet of ships from a gravity well and can eat all the life on planets. The other is a dumb brute who is just hard to kill. Sidious is far more powerful than Sion, Sidious is a better duelist and far superior in the Force.
3. Funnily enough, Nihilus has the better durability feat, surviving the Mass Shadow Generator's destruction of Malachor V.
Also, Sion cannot topple buildings with the Force, he's never done it. He never so much as performed a Force Push in the games.
Like I said sidious has a little higher offense but not massivly.And sion has massive durability that I say would let him beat sidious.
How would that be compared to anything?
Hes very skilled with the force.He hunted the jedi to near extinction.Sion is skilled enough.I didn't mean like crush the whole building but at least able to topple it.
Originally posted by NemeBroTechnically the contract with the toads is a permanent one isn't it?
Prep doesn't count. Oro cannot summon the dead without prep. If we count prep, Reed Richards is a Transcendant.
Although I guess that would constitute outside help.
I'd probably agree to mid anyway. But some of the currently proposed high-meta are probably too high then.
Originally posted by marwash22To summon the Kages he needs a fresh body for, and needs to prepare their body I believe.
There' no prep involved; he draws blood, put's his hands on the ground and they're resurrected. Summoning literally takes less time than a kamehameha wave.EDIT: i don't even think he draws blood for that one.
Quantify the difference in power levels. How many points in a power level equal one ton in strength? How many points is the difference between bullet timing and light speed reaction timing? I'm not arguing with you anymore on this. I'll just have to ignore you like everyone else is doing.
And to repeat my other stuff 'cause I think it got missed. Well, actually it's more likely nobody cared, but imma post it again anyway.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
As for other stuff. Regigigas for Mid Meta based on continent moving strength cut in half via Slow Start ability. And Regigigas (w/o Slow Start) for High or Elite Meta based on it not being cut in half.He also has a few other varied powers in his movepool. Stuff like Thunder, Earthquake, Fire, Ice and Thunder Punches. He can increase Gravity as well, but by how much is unsure. All we know is that it's meant to drop flying Pokemon and Levitating Pokemon to the ground, making them vulnerable to Ground type attacks.
Originally posted by Black bolt z1. Nihilus is already listed for Low Heralds. SInce he has feats that warrant it.
You thought I was talking about sion.I was talking about nihilus.Like I said sidious has a little higher offense but not massivly.And sion has massive durability that I say would let him beat sidious.
How would that be compared to anything?
Hes very skilled with the force.He hunted the jedi to near extinction.Sion is skilled enough.I didn't mean like crush the whole building but at least able to topple it.
2. A little? He can open a ****ing wormhole in space that can destroy fleets and the surface of a planet. He also displayed a weaker version of Nihilus' ability, allowing him to drain the planet Byss slowly. Sidious would make Sion his absolute ass pal. Sion is a joke, he is all but called such by Traya herself.
3. Mass Shadow Generators destroyed the surface of Malachor V.
He? He had an entire army under his command, and had to resort to stealth to do so. Also, the Jedi were not that well-off, on account of Nihilus already killing most of the council when he attacked the Miraluka home world. Kid, you cannot show Sion toppling a Barbie's Playhouse with the force, let alone a building.