Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Started by marwash22307 pages

The Neo-hate is strong.

You think this is bad.

Wait til we get to Sylar and Peter Petrelli.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
no, neo's "powers" in the matrix are his understanding that it is not real and his mind (all the one's of each matrix for that matter) has the most potential to bend the coding. this will not work in the real world as exhibited by neo in the films, all he could do is stop machines in their tracks among other things cause of his interaction with the agent smith code.

superman's powers work on marvel earth and the matrix's earth (the darkness might pose a problem in time) cause the sun is indeed there and acts the same, this is pretty much universally true in all earth's in fictional media.

what you want to do is change neo's powers so they apply universally, but i see many problems that will stem from that since it's too much of a stretch.

if it was a robotic character like say deathlok then you have a case to use neo's full powerset, but against most characters too much has to be altered.

Neo's powers in the Matrix are his ability to re-write a virtual reality. The powers he exhibits in that virtual reality, for purposes of Cross Genre matches, will have the same effects in the neutral KMC battlefields as if it were the Matrix.

How is this a hard concept?

I think i already nominated Sylar for Elite-Meta.

Originally posted by NemeBro

Edit: Are people arguing Neo should not get any of his powers in normal threads? Because that is stupid.
Yeah, they are.

Originally posted by marwash22
I think i already nominated Sylar for Elite-Meta.

When that conversation expands we'll see where it goes.

Sylar's a very slippery slope.

Also, I'll try to make the update tomorrow.

Hmm...

I'm more playing devil's advocate than actually caring what Neo can and can't do...

One can extend the argument the other way and say that for example Ichigo Kurosaki is actually just a normal human (who can see spirits) unless he leaves his body.

Neo should definitely have access to his abilities otherwise he would be pointless here. Whether or not those abilities would work on particular characters or not would be interesting though - there are far better matter and reality manipulators than he.

Originally posted by Existere
Also, hi all. Cresh, you're back! and Delph, long time no talk.

Just realized you were Smurph. Sup man?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah, they are.
Well that's stupid. It makes any debate with Neo pointless, since he is basically just a normal guy, the only thing that is really debateable is the method he used to take out Smith in the first movie.

Originally posted by Existere
Also, hi all. Cresh, you're back! and Delph, long time no talk.
SMURPH!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by illadelph12
Neo's powers in the Matrix are his ability to re-write a virtual reality. The powers he exhibits in that virtual reality, for purposes of Cross Genre matches, will have the same effects in the neutral KMC battlefields as if it were the Matrix.

How is this a hard concept?

i can't make myself ignorant to what his powers actually are, i just can't bring myself to do it

the asgardian destroyer's main flaw is that the host body is vulberable while the spirit animates the suit, and the souless corpse has been attacked before which renders the suit inert. like the destryoer suit, does the same happen for neo while plugged into the matrix, or is that fat trimmed off also?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Actually guess which one we see more?

oh and why that matters:

which is the problem....

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i can't make myself ignorant to what his powers actually are, i just can't bring myself to do it

the asgardian destroyer's main flaw is that the host body is vulberable while the spirit animates the suit, and the souless corpse has been attacked before which renders the suit inert. like the destryoer suit, does the same happen for neo while plugged into the matrix, or is that fat trimmed off also?

There's an enormous difference, however. When Neo is jacled in to the Matrix nothing within the Matrix has access to his physical body. Essentially, the Neo we see in the Matrix is an M Body, like what Abstracts use to physically interact with Marvel reality. We're not discussing his physical self, we're discussing his Matrix Manifestation Body. It's entirely pointless to discus his non-Matrix self.

Originally posted by Existere

Also, hi all. Cresh, you're back! and Delph, long time no talk.
Yup. I'm back ... for now.

Hopefully it'll actually post my greeting to you this time...

How have you been?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
which is the problem....
It's only a problem if you refuse to accept the forum rules.

I'm disappointed that no one has nodded my Boris the Blade nomination. Hasn't anyone here seen Snatch? sneer

I believe you and I are among the few people on this forum that have ever seen snatch...

...meanfox

😗 i must admit, i have never seen it...

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm disappointed that no one has nodded my Boris the Blade nomination. Hasn't anyone here seen Snatch? sneer

Well you didn't respond to me when I quoted it so meh!

Originally posted by marwash22
😗 i must admit, i have never seen it...

Best British Crime Film ever.