Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

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Layer Cake>>>Snatch (film) as far as Brit crime dramas, imo, not that Snatch (film) was a bad movie, just a preference.

However, Snatch (Trim) surpasses most things.

I tried to make this long post explaining my thought process, but I got to bullet two, and then my hangover was like "no, not happening."

So I'm just gonna give it a shot in condensed form:

I feel like even though Neo's powers in theory transfer over, what the rule doesn't cover is how in order for that to happen, it has to fundamentally change either Neo or the world/opponent characters.

I know that it's a semi similar situation for Flash, but I feel like that hasn't been raised as a point of contention because nobody gives a shit if characters suddenly receive their kinetic energy from the speed force. It's not a fundamental point to their character.

Neo with full matrix powers, however, would mean that characters/worlds had code that could be deleted, and change aspects of them, or it would change Neo from a character with control over the virtual world to a character with control over reality. "His reality IS virtual".... yeah, I know, but the other characters' involved don't live in VR, and I feel like the rule doesn't cover changing that for them...

I would personally treat this the same way we treat Astral Plane stuff... we don't take characters with control over the Astral Reality and give them control over the "real world"... instead we just specify that fights take place on the astral plane.

Cause the matrix is the way it is, I don't see why other characters' powers wouldn't transfer over to the matrix, so it seems reasonable enough to me.

Anyways, those are my two cents.

As for my hellos:

HI EVERYBODY! I'll give a proper reply later... I'm off to forage for food.

Originally posted by Creshosk
His dodging and combat I'd say isn't that high. Spiderman level.

And I have to disagree with BBz

But his feat are moving.An agent can dodge hundreds of bullets without moving his feat.Is it that hard to understand?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Layer Cake>>>Snatch (film) as far as Brit crime dramas, imo, not that Snatch (film) was a bad movie, just a preference.

However, Snatch (Trim) surpasses most things.


I wouldn't call Snatch a "Crime Drama" though. I'd describe it as a British Pulp Fiction more or less.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
But his feat are moving.An agent can dodge hundreds of bullets [b]without moving his feat.Is it that hard to understand? [/B]
Oh FFS...

That's not a comment on the agent's dodging abilities. Guaranteed, Spider-Man can do exactly the same thing. Rather, that's a comment on the fact that nobody thought to shoot at an Agent's feet....

Look at the picture. If Spider-Man didn't move his feet, he would be shot on the foot.

You show me an agent dodging a shot to his feet without moving his feet, and then maybe you'll have an argument.

Can I ask a quick DBZ question?

If you give goku and say captain america the same bodies in a fight who would win?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Snatch (Trim) surpasses most things.

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Originally posted by Black bolt z
Can I ask a quick DBZ question?

If you give goku and say captain america the same bodies in a fight who would win?

are you asking who would win a fight between Cap and Goku, if Goku were de-powered?

Cap stomps.

Originally posted by marwash22
are you asking who would win a fight between Cap and Goku, if Goku were de-powered?

Cap stomps.

Explain.If you gave them the exact same bodies.I mean goku is a top MAer.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Explain.If you gave them the exact same bodies.I mean goku is a top MAer.

It would be interesting to put an "equal body" clause and make a Goku guantlet, I mean, he's quite an adept martial artist even without his uber mumbo jumbo, and that way we could use more DB feats than DBZ feats, because in my opinion after the Piccolo arc they just downplay his skill.

Originally posted by Bentley
It would be interesting to put an "equal body" clause and make a Goku guantlet, I mean, he's quite an adept martial artist even without his uber mumbo jumbo, and that way we could use more DB feats than DBZ feats, because in my opinion after the Piccolo arc they just downplay his skill.

I think even as a kid Goku falls into the Deathstroke trap where it becomes difficult to divorce skill from stats. There's little evidence to say that given Peak Human stats he'd be anywhere close to Cap's league in h/h.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
But his feat are moving.An agent can dodge hundreds of bullets [b]without moving his feat.Is it that hard to understand? [/B]
Right, dbz... It LOOKS impressive so it must BE impressive.

*pats you on the head and gives you a lollypop* Now go out and play while the adults are talking.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think even as a kid Goku falls into the Deathstroke trap where it becomes difficult to divorce skill from stats. There's little evidence to say that given Peak Human stats he'd be anywhere close to Cap's league in h/h.
that's what i mean, Put Goku in Cap's Body, but Goku retains his own skills... Cap stomps.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Right, dbz... It LOOKS impressive so it must BE impressive.

*pats you on the head and gives you a lollypop* Now go out and play while the adults are talking.

No...no where near that...but who else can just stand still with their feat planted in the same place and dodge bullets like that?You have to be able to see the bullets coming and dodge each one individually without moving your feat.Thats hard in case you didn't know.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I think even as a kid Goku falls into the Deathstroke trap where it becomes difficult to divorce skill from stats. There's little evidence to say that given Peak Human stats he'd be anywhere close to Cap's league in h/h.
As a 9 year old he had really not that much training from master roshi and came in second place in the world martial arts tourament.

Even as a kid he was peak human.

Originally posted by marwash22
that's what i mean, Put Goku in Cap's Body, but Goku retains his own skills... Cap stomps.
Why?WHat evidence do you have?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No...no where near that...but who else can just stand still with their feat planted in the same place and dodge bullets like that?You have to be able to see the bullets coming and dodge each one individually without moving your feat.Thats hard in case you didn't know.
In other words it looks cooler and you don't care about the speed.
Like I said, run along kid.

We know that Goku bell trained and some stuff, but I agree its hard to recognize stats from skill because he never really depended on skills -barring when he got his *ss kicked by the statue Popo made-.

Err, Matrix speed does not extend to running or reflexes... it's something they have to "activate".

>>What happened to not talking about dbz for three weeks?<<

I though it was three weeks ago *shrughs*