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Originally posted by Creshosk
You're easily impressed, we got that.

That's all you're proving.

A Machine gun is faster than a hand gun. There is no argument there.

Dodging something faster meqans that peson is faster, regardless of how it looks.

Nobody ever tried to shoot an agent in the foot. So they only had to move the part that was being shot at.

Unless you can prove that they could dodge a bullet that would hit their feet without moving their feet you're arguing for style rather than substance.

I understand you're the easily impressed gullible type.

Originally posted by Existere
So, to break down what you're arguing:

Standing still is faster than moving....

What?

Originally posted by Creshosk
He's still stuck on the coolness factor.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
What?I'm done with you.You just don't seem to be able t grasp this simple concept.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
If you can dodge bullets while standing still thats a better feat then dodging bullets and moving. You just plain don't get it.I don't see how anyone can not get it...but you seem to be able to.

Dodging something faster makes someone faster, haveing a stupid opponent does not make someone faster.
Its a simple COMMON SENSE sort of thing. But I guess you lack common sense.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
If you can dodge bullets while standing still thats a better feat then dodging bullets and moving.

In the space of time that a bullet is fired, character A can lean backwards and character B can do 3 backflips.

Which is faster?

Now let's take into account that Spider-Man moves larger distances to dodge machine gun fire than Agent Smith does to dodge handgun fire.

Who is faster?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Because its bullshit?

Its because nobody shot at their feet. They are not faster because they're stupider.

Dodging something faster makes someone faster, haveing a stupid opponent does not make someone faster.
Its a simple COMMON SENSE sort of thing. But I guess you lack common sense.

What?!?!?Thats it.I can't respond to you any more.Its one of the easiest concepts ever yet you can't grasp it.

Originally posted by Existere
Define "better"

In the space of time that a bullet is fired, character A can lean backwards and character B can do 3 backflips.

Which is faster?

Now let's take into account that Spider-Man moves larger distances to dodge machine gun fire than Agent Smith does to dodge handgun fire.

Who is faster?

Originally posted by Existere
In the space of time that a bullet is fired, character A can lean backwards and character B can do 3 backflips.

Which is faster?

Now let's take into account that Spider-Man moves larger distances to dodge machine gun fire than Agent Smith does to dodge handgun fire.

Who is faster?

BBZ, just stop before Smurph bites your face off with his 1337 debating skills.

Originally posted by Existere

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Let me explain this to you.If you can dodge bullets without moving its a better feat than having to dodge bullets to move.

What?!?!?Thats it.I can't respond to you any more.Its one of the easiest concepts ever yet you can't grasp it.

An agent can stand still and see each individual bullet and dodge them individually.Spiderman can't.Its as simple as that.As far as being able to dodge agents are much faster.

"Let me explain this to you" he says, proceeding to explain nothing and simply post his opinion again.

Thanks for that.

Feel free to answer the question:

Given the same space of time, one object moves significantly farther than another object. Which is faster?

Originally posted by Existere
"Let me explain this to you" he says, proceeding to explain nothing and simply post his opinion again.

Thanks for that.

Feel free to answer the question:

Given the same space of time, one object moves significantly farther than another object. Which is faster?

You do know thats not at all what i'm talking about right?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
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You do know thats not at all what i'm talking about right?

Two things:

1) How did Goku get dragged into this argument?

2) If you put Goku, with all of his training, into a regular human body, he'd be a better version of Krillin, Yamcha, or Tien, all three of which would still likely destroy someone like Batman or Captain America. All of his abilities are martial techniques from his universe. The skills grant the abilities. His saiyan body enhances them exponentially beyond the capabilities of humans with the same training, as evidenced by his superiority to the base humans he studied and trained with using the same techniques. Krillin went from a semi chubby jerk to being able to fly and fight at super speed via the same training Goku received, and Krillin was a regular human. As were Master Roshi, Yamcha, and Tien. It's not just Goku's Saiyin genes. Master Roshi was a normal human who could toss Kamehameha Waves and taught the technique to Goku. Saying Goku's nothing without his Saiyin body is just a way for Goku haters to fill themselves up with false hope. There's already 3 examples of what a human body with the same acquired skills as Goku would produce.

Now back to legal conversation. No more DBZ til 9/5.

Originally posted by Existere
Though I admire your complete inability to answer a simple question, it actually doesn't get us anywhere in determining whose dodging motion was faster.

One person can dodge bullets by seeing each individual bullet and dodging them individually.

One person can dodge them being swinging around and not getting hit.

Which is a better feat?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Two things:

1) How did Goku get dragged into this argument?

2) If you put Goku, with all of his training, into a regular human body, he'd be a better version of Krillin, Yamcha, or Tien, all three of which would still likely destroy someone like Batman or Captain America. All of his abilities are martial techniques from his universe. The skills grant the abilities. His saiyan body enhances them exponentially beyond the capabilities of humans with the same training, as evidenced by his superiority to the base humans he studied and trained with using the same techniques. Krillin went from a semi chubby jerk to being able to fly and fight at super speed via the same training Goku received, and Krillin was a regular human. As were Master Roshi, Yamcha, and Tien. It's not just Goku's Saiyin genes. Master Roshi was a normal human who could toss Kamehameha Waves and taught the technique to Goku. Saying Goku's nothing without his Saiyin body is just a way for Goku haters to fill themselves up with false hope. There's already 3 examples of what a human body with the same acquired skills as Goku would produce.

Now back to legal conversation. No more DBZ til 9/5.

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But I was more asking if you give them both normal bodies without flying,energy blasts etc...who would win a fight of goku and cap in MA alone?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Please answer me this question.

One person can dodge bullets by seeing each individual bullet and dodging them individually.

One person can dodge them being swinging around and not getting hit.

That's why you think the "more impressive" looking one IS more impressive.

Of course then you also said that

"Having seen more of a show =/= knowing more about the show."

So who the hell knows with you?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh I see you still don't understand Spiderman's showings.

That's why you think the "more impressive" looking one IS more impressive.

Of course then you also said that

"Having seen more of a show =/= knowing more about the show."

So who the hell knows with you?

Care to answer the question?If not stay out of our conversation.

You'll have to get used to Cresh. He doesn't mean anything by it. Pushing buttons is just part of his style.

Originally posted by illadelph12
You'll have to get used to Cresh. He doesn't mean anything by it. Pushing buttons is just part of his style.

Different day, somebody new, same old arguments.
Although I gotta tell you these take the cake for stupid arguments.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
What are you talking about?

Care to answer the question?If not stay out of our conversation.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Please answer me this question.

One person can dodge bullets by seeing each individual bullet and dodging them individually.

One person can dodge them being swinging around and not getting hit.

Which is a better feat?

I'll take a crack at it. Now, it seems to me that you're underestimating Spiderman here. We have a panel depicting Spiderman dodging machinegun fire, which is significantly faster than a handgun. In order to do that, wouldn't Spiderman have to be reacting to each individual bullet? Machineguns work on the principle of saturation- that is, put as many bullets in the air as you can, as fast as you can, and you're sure to hit something.

The Agent is dealing with one bullet at a time. Spiderman is dealing with dozens, if not hundreds at once. In the time it takes the Agent to shift in a given direction, Spiderman is in a completely different place. Isn't the measurement of speed movement over time? Thus, if Spiderman moves the farther distance in the same amount of time, he would be measured as faster. The Agent seems to have moved maybe two or three feet in the time it took the bullet to reach him, while Spiderman can seemingly cover 10 or more before a bullet reaches him.

In doesn't really matter how hard it is to stand still and dodge. It's just more tactically sound to be in a different place altogether. The fact remains that both Spiderman and the Agent are reacting to individual bullets. Spidey may not be doing it conciously, but he can sense them and move appropriately, an infinitely harder feat when there are dozens of bullets coming his way at once, rather than one at a time like the Agent.

tl:dr, Spidey deals with more bullets at once and covers more distance than the Agent.

^ Now theres an answer.Well played sir.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
^ Now theres an answer.Well played sir.