Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

Originally posted by Burning thought
no immortality is diffrent darling, immortality is beng ageless as in, you dont age normally...Kain cannot be killed, by anything other than having his soul destroyed, can wolverine be killed by having his body dissolved to nothing?

Originally posted by Burning thought

boundless is stated, he has not shown upper limit or lower, boundless means the same in any universe

Iron Fist for Skyfather. 😐

Originally posted by Burning thought

whats a highfather going to do trapped in time, or have his soul ripped from his body...lol@ a highfather harming kain

What'll they do?

They'll trap kain in time. Or rip Kain's soul from him. ^_^.

Originally posted by Burning thought

@Estacado, Galactus in one of his weakened states in a PIS has been beaten by many beings

But not your piss-ant.

Son that won't work since..... Kain could turn into mist!

Originally posted by Soljer
Go ahead and scan me the page where any Dragonball or Dragonball Z character destroys multiple solar systems.

I'll wait. 🙂.

Oh, that's right, the most that's EVER been destroyed is a planet.

If you don't think they can destroy more than a planet then I'm not even going to bother with this really .

Originally posted by Burning thought
no immortality is diffrent darling, immortality is beng ageless as in, you dont age normally...Kain cannot be killed, by anything other than having his soul destroyed, can wolverine be killed by having his body dissolved to nothing?

@snazzy do you know kain at all? if so where is your information coming from? if not.....what is your credibility in debating this at all?

boundless is stated, he has not shown upper limit or lower, boundless means the same in any universe

good for silver surfer 😕 this means anything to do with this?

the telepath was controlling a small army of humans with his mind, this was young kain without Mind emblem, and he wasnt even bothered by the telepath.

whats a highfather going to do trapped in time, or have his soul ripped from his body...lol@ a highfather harming kain

@Estacado, Galactus in one of his weakened states in a PIS has been beaten by many beings

2. My credibility comes from knowing comic book characters apparently much better than you... so when placing characters in a tier system meant to act as a comparison to comic book characters, I'll voice an opinion. I'm only stating what you yourself have stated, unless I'm asking for evidence. 😬

3. It has everything to do with it. Silver Surfer, despite being vastly more powerful than what you've mentioned so far, is ONLY high herald, and would get CRUSHED by skyfathers and such.

Originally posted by Soljer
No. He'll heal.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee304/IronFistRespect/Skill/TheBook5-Copy.jpg?t=1191608406

Iron Fist for Skyfather. 😐

What'll they do?

They'll trap kain in time. Or rip Kain's soul from him. ^_^.

But not your piss-ant.

1. from dust? wow i didnt think Wolverine had that kind of healing, impressive

2. Has this Iron fist never shown a limit to his powers?

3. yeh, right....not all of them (show me the scan where ime wrong) can rip souls, nor stop time....show me?

4. Galactus full energy----->Galactus Zero energy

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
If you don't think they can destroy more than a planet then I'm not even going to bother with this really .

I never said they couldn't destroy more than a planet. I said that they never destroyed a solar system in manga canon.

Thusly, you have absolutely no evidence with which to say that they COULD.

Furthermore; a solar system is analogous to an atom, in that it is comprised almost entirely of empty space. How do you destroy space? 😕.

If you want to argue that they could destroy a solar system's worth of planets compiled atop one another, it'd make a slight bit more sense - but you'd still be left with absolutely no evidence with which to support your case.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
1. No, actually, Wolverine can't. Deadpool CAN'T die.

2. My credibility comes from knowing comic book characters apparently much better than you... so when placing characters in a tier system meant to act as a comparison to comic book characters, I'll voice an opinion. I'm only stating what you yourself have stated, unless I'm asking for evidence. 😬

3. It has everything to do with it. Silver Surfer, despite being vastly more powerful than what you've mentioned so far, is ONLY high herald, and would get CRUSHED by skyfathers and such.

thats because hes part of the marvel universe, he draws from cosmic powers, Kain draws from magic powers..like Odin uses magic and Surfer has not all of kains powers, Surfer cannot rip souls, surfer cannot "stop" time from what i remember, regardless of knowing a great deal more than me on comic book characters, that doesnt mean you know about kain, if you dont know "any" of kains true feets then dont keep yelling hyperbole on the feets that would dwarf a highfather. If its stated officially by the creators then thats the final word, boundless....if he has boundless energy manipulation then you would have to dig up a source to negate this claim if you belive it hyperbole.

Silver surfer also regardless of his powers has never had his speed taken into account in battles, perhaps he cannot do all his powers while going fast like many have said.

Originally posted by Burning thought

2. Has this Iron fist never shown a limit to his powers?

Nope. 😐.

Originally posted by Soljer
Nope. 😐.

isnt it interesting, neither marvel or Wikipedias powers and abilities rate these powers under the guy....it was obviously from his mouth alone as well, not the Marvel creators actually saying it, you Phail

English translation, please?

This Iron Fist's capabilities have infinite depth, as stated on panel. He can learn infinite ways to kill.

Infinite means the same thing no matter which universe. Clearly, a full potential Iron Fist would have to be at LEAST Skyfather, probably far far higher.

Originally posted by Soljer
English translation, please?

This Iron Fist's capabilities have infinite depth, as stated on panel. He can learn infinite ways to kill.

Infinite means the same thing no matter which universe. Clearly, a full potential Iron Fist would have to be at LEAST Skyfather, probably far far higher.

no it was said by himself on panel..you fail...the guy himself is stating it, so in english this means that he could say whatever he wants and at the same time this could be bravado..this is not said by Marvel themselves

Originally posted by Estacado
Son that won't work since..... Kain could turn into mist!

The mist argument is one of the funniest around. Like Storm's lightning in the brain🙂))))

Originally posted by Burning thought
thats because hes part of the marvel universe, he draws from cosmic powers, Kain draws from magic powers..like Odin uses magic and Surfer has not all of kains powers, Surfer cannot rip souls, surfer cannot "stop" time from what i remember, regardless of knowing a great deal more than me on comic book characters, that doesnt mean you know about kain, if you dont know "any" of kains true feets then dont keep yelling hyperbole on the feets that would dwarf a highfather. If its stated officially by the creators then thats the final word, boundless....if he has boundless energy manipulation then you would have to dig up a source to negate this claim if you belive it hyperbole.

Silver surfer also regardless of his powers has never had his speed taken into account in battles, perhaps he cannot do all his powers while going fast like many have said.

I never yelled hyperbole. I asked if Kain had ever shown an upper limit to his energy manip, and you had a hissy fit. 😬

Surfer's timed his movements to fractions of seconds, actually... and he thinks much faster, and would therefore be quicker on the draw... so that point is moot.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
The Power Cosmic lets Surfer do nearly everything Kain can do (that you've said), and MUCH more.

I never yelled hyperbole. I asked if Kain had ever shown an upper limit to his energy manip, and you had a hissy fit. 😬

Surfer's timed his movements to fractions of seconds, actually... and he thinks much faster, and would therefore be quicker on the draw... so that point is moot.

"nearly" also when you say "much" more, please explain this....

surfer has? so why is he owned in so many ways in various battles against beings who cannot near his speed? PIS? maybe

Originally posted by Burning thought
"nearly" also when you say "much" more, please explain this....

surfer has? so why is he owned in so many ways in various battles against beings who cannot near his speed? PIS? maybe

Yes... which "various battles" would you be reffering to? 😬

Never mind.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
The Power Cosmic makes Surfer nearly limitless in his versatality.

Yes... which "various battles" would you be reffering to? 😬

1.magic has been shown in many universes to be just as versatile as the power cosmic and has even overthrow it in various ways against certain beings.

2.odin battles where he was owned, his speed did not help him at all, Odins "magical" powers were far greater and owned the surfer is one battle

Subject dropped, under mod watch.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1.magic has been shown in many universes to be just as versatile as the power cosmic and has even overthrow it in various ways against certain beings.

2.odin battles where he was owned, his speed did not help him at all, Odins "magical" powers were far greater and owned the surfer is one battle

So now you're trying to say that Kain=Odin?

Originally posted by Burning thought
1.magic has been shown in many universes to be just as versatile as the power cosmic and has even overthrow it in various ways against certain beings.

2.odin battles where he was owned, his speed did not help him at all, Odins "magical" powers were far greater and owned the surfer is one battle

2. Are you attempting to imply that Kain = Odin?