I guess I just have issues with them - BA/CM - being listed as mid-heralds. They have top tier strength, speed, durability, mental perception, magical defenses, the ability to summon lightning or amp their own strikes with it, etc. They don't have a bunch of exotic powers such as a Green Lantern or the Surfer, but the powerset they both have is a lot more than just "flying brick".
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I guess I just have issues with them - BA/CM - being listed as mid-heralds. They have top tier strength, speed, durability, mental perception, magical defenses, the ability to summon lightning or amp their own strikes with it, etc. They don't have a bunch of exotic powers such as a Green Lantern or the Surfer, but the powerset they both have is a lot more than just "flying brick".
I agree with everything you just said. IMO, they are high heralds but again, following the rules... they just don't fit the bill. Kind of like Hyperion. He has all of Supes abilities BUT he doesn't have near the versatility that Supes has (along with the showings). If you look at his showings, he should be right up there (rambed a sun so hard that it went nova and he flew out of it with a smile, flew so fast that he went to another time line, took a hammer toss from thor to the chest and it bounced off like nothing... etc, etc,) but again, his versatility isn't on par with any of the high heralds.
I wonder what godlike Cable is listed as?
Also... Black Bolt should also be high herald BUT his physical stats is what holds him back. You need the full package to be in that category.
Originally posted by carver9Not sure about hyperion.
I agree with everything you just said. IMO, they are high heralds but again, following the rules... they just don't fit the bill. Kind of like Hyperion. He has all of Supes abilities BUT he doesn't have near the versatility that Supes has (along with the showings). If you look at his showings, he should be right up there (rambed a sun so hard that it went nova and he flew out of it with a smile, flew so fast that he went to another time line, took a hammer toss from thor to the chest and it bounced off like nothing... etc, etc,) but again, his versatility isn't on par with any of the high heralds.I wonder what godlike Cable is listed as?
Also... Black Bolt should also be high herald BUT his physical stats is what holds him back. You need the full package to be in that category.
He constantly goes physically with the hulk and almost always holds his own.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Not sure about hyperion.He constantly goes physically with the hulk and almost always holds his own.
Hhhmmm.... well during the Vulcan saga he was amped. The shiar crew zapped him with a gun and took that amp away and Gladiator one shotted him.
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He is by far one of my fave characters but d***, I can't see that happening to Thor and Supes.
Originally posted by carver9Seriously when has glads one shot BB? I've gotten every WoK crossover I can find and glads never met BB.
Hhhmmm.... well during the Vulcan saga he was amped. The shiar crew zapped him with a gun and took that amp away and Gladiator one shotted him.😕
He is by far one of my fave characters but d***, I can't see that happening to Thor and Supes.
Because i'd be really surprised if they let glads one shot an amped BB but vulcan lose to a regular BB.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Seriously when has glads one shot BB? I've gotten every WoK crossover I can find and glads never met BB.Because i'd be really surprised if they let glads one shot an amped BB but vulcan lose to a regular BB.
He wasn't amped. He had an amp... the shiar shot him with a gun while charging Glads with this amp, he lost the amp and was put back to his normal self and Gladiator one shot punched him.
Originally posted by Badabing
Why oh why can't you people just post and opinion and move on?
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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I guess I just have issues with them - BA/CM - being listed as mid-heralds. They have top tier strength, speed, durability, mental perception, magical defenses, the ability to summon lightning or amp their own strikes with it, etc. They don't have a bunch of exotic powers such as a Green Lantern or the Surfer, but the powerset they both have is a lot more than just "flying brick".
they would be, or should be considered that level, yes.
Being a herald is as much about raw power as much as (if not moreso, which it is imo) versatility.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Where would KEN and Raoh from THE FIST OF THE NORTH STAR be. I say Skyfather Level: :I would put Kenshiros pressure point attacks up against anyone including Zeus/Odin etc. not saying he would kill them but he could hurt them.
Honestly... Ken is up there imo. He could easily beat any Meta in a physical fight.