Mixed Genre & Comic Tier Reference Guide

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Magneto is just a dude, let's make him low street.

Professor X is a cripple!

Aang in avatar state is higher then meta.I propose low herald.

Aang could most certainly destroy the planet...

Originally posted by marwash22
Aang could most certainly destroy the planet...
Lol.

Also, rofl at Orihime being a ****ing Herald.

Being able to bring people back to life?

Congradulations! She has all the qualities of a Phoenix Down.

She has NOTHING, there is not a single Low Herald she could even hold her own against, hell, she cannot even fight any Mid Metas.

Her healing powers are the only fairly impressive things about her, Tsubaki is weak and is casually deflected by... Pretty much anyone really.

Her shield is only guarding from one direction.

Yeah, you would have a hard time arguing her for Low Meta, considering that Spiderman has the speed feats and the strength to punch her head off before she could even put up the barrier.

Originally posted by marwash22
Aang could most certainly destroy the planet...
with what?

also, even if he could somehow do it, he never would since the avatar is connected to nature's spirits since he's their midpoint with humanity.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Lol.

Also, rofl at Orihime being a ****ing Herald.

Being able to bring people back to life?

Congradulations! She has all the qualities of a Phoenix Down.

She has NOTHING, there is not a single Low Herald she could even hold her own against, hell, she cannot even fight any Mid Metas.

Her healing powers are the only fairly impressive things about her, Tsubaki is weak and is casually deflected by... Pretty much anyone really.

Her shield is only guarding from one direction.

Yeah, you would have a hard time arguing her for Low Meta, considering that Spiderman has the speed feats and the strength to punch her head off before she could even put up the barrier.

who said anything about her beating anyone? I definietly didn't say it, so stop remixing my statements.

Are you saying that having a herald level power isn't enough to earn placement, but instead, you need to be capable to beating the other people in that tier?

Go take a look at the tiers as currently constructed. There are more than a few people who have great power-sets but couldn't actually defeat the people in their tier.

Fact remains, bringing people back from the dead is a herald level ability. I never said one thing about her offensive abilities.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
with what?
You do know a planet's core is made of the very things the avatar can control, correct?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
also, even if he could somehow do it, he never would since the avatar is connected to nature's spirits since he's their midpoint with humanity.
What does that have to do with having the power/ability to do it? Silver Surfer doesn't do shit with his power, neither does Superman, half the GL's and a bunch of other people. He CAN bust a planet, which is what the tier's are about. If you wanna factor in what someone wouldn't do, you're gonna need to bump a lot of people down.

Originally posted by marwash22
who said anything about her beating anyone? I definietly didn't say it, so stop remixing my statements.

Are you saying that having a herald level power isn't enough to earn placement, but instead, you need to be capable to beating the other people in that tier?


Tier placement has to do with all offensive and defensive powers, not cherry-picking which ones you want to rate. Hell, here's what Illa had to say about considering who goes where eariler on in this thread:

Originally posted by illadelph12
It's supposed to be placement based upon the characters abilities, offensive output, and defensive capabilities, not simply "popularity". The issue is that the placements are being determined unchecked. There needs to be more evidence presented that displays why the character stands where they do, and debates on the tier appointments. There needs to be some form of opposition for balance.

Fact remains, bringing people back from the dead is a herald level ability. I never said one thing about her offensive abilities.

Layla freakin' Miller can bring people back from the dead and she sure isn't a herald. 😬

My argument wasn't based on popularity, but ok, fair enough. Where would you place a character who has a herald level ability but the rest of the stats are rubbish?

High meta. Like Rand Al'thor.

Originally posted by marwash22
You do know a planet's core is made of the very things the avatar can control, correct
Iron?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Lol.

Also, rofl at Orihime being a ****ing Herald.

Being able to bring people back to life?

Congradulations! She has all the qualities of a Phoenix Down.

She has NOTHING, there is not a single Low Herald she could even hold her own against, hell, she cannot even fight any Mid Metas.

Her healing powers are the only fairly impressive things about her, Tsubaki is weak and is casually deflected by... Pretty much anyone really.

Her shield is only guarding from one direction.

Yeah, you would have a hard time arguing her for Low Meta, considering that Spiderman has the speed feats and the strength to punch her head off before she could even put up the barrier.

Orihime couldn't beat a guy with a gun.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Aang in avatar state is higher then meta.I propose low herald.
any one besides marwash nod this?I mean he would definitly be able to beat the majority of people on that tier that he is currently in.

I can see Aang being low herald. He's essentially an, arguably, more powerful version of the Inhuman Crystal (near identical powerset sans Aang's spiritual powers and martial arts skills) who is also in the High Meta to Low Herald range with her powers.

Originally posted by marwash22
who said anything about her beating anyone? I definietly didn't say it, so stop remixing my statements.

Are you saying that having a herald level power isn't enough to earn placement, but instead, you need to be capable to beating the other people in that tier?

Go take a look at the tiers as currently constructed. There are more than a few people who have great power-sets but couldn't actually defeat the people in their tier.

Fact remains, bringing people back from the dead is a herald level ability. I never said one thing about her offensive abilities.

You do know a planet's core is made of the very things the avatar can control, correct?

What does that have to do with having the power/ability to do it? Silver Surfer doesn't do shit with his power, neither does Superman, half the GL's and a bunch of other people. He CAN bust a planet, which is what the tier's are about. If you wanna factor in what someone wouldn't do, you're gonna need to bump a lot of people down.

1. Bringing people back to life is a Herald level power?

Damn, watch out for Phoenix Downs then.

Orihime is a one-trick pony, even if she has that one Herald level ability (Have fun arguing it is actually Herald level) she can do nothing else near the level of a Herald.

Why is it by default a herald level ability? 😐 Other than you saying so.

A planet's core is made of iron, and the Avatar has never bended as much as the planet's core.... Not that that would destroy the planet, this is not DBZ.

Aang has done nothing to even suggest he is a planet buster.

How about M. Bison and his "psycho powers"? He has flight, levitation, telekinesis, some form of pyrokinesis, I believe telepathy and mind control, illusion casting, teleportation, and a few more powers.

Originally posted by illadelph12
How about M. Bison and his "psycho powers"? He has flight, levitation, telekinesis, some form of pyrokinesis, I believe telepathy and mind control, illusion casting, teleportation, and a few more powers.
At his strongest, Shin Bison in Alpha 3, he would at least be high meta IMO.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Bringing people back to life is a Herald level power?

Damn, watch out for Phoenix Downs then.

Orihime is a one-trick pony, even if she has that one Herald level ability (Have fun arguing it is actually Herald level) she can do nothing else near the level of a Herald.

Why is it by default a herald level ability? 😐 Other than you saying so.

A planet's core is made of iron, and the Avatar has never bended as much as the planet's core.... Not that that would destroy the planet, this is not DBZ.

Aang has done nothing to even suggest he is a planet buster.

Does he have to be a to be a planet buster to be low herald?Absorbing man is low herald and hes not a planet buster.

Planet busting is more of a High Herald feat. And besides, most characters don't have planet destroying feats on panel with a few exceptions, but have displayed the power to or have been stated to have the output to achieve the feat.

On the flipside though, Hulk could likely destroy a planet and he's FAR from being a high or elite herald IMO.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Does he have to be a to be a planet buster to be low herald?Absorbing man is low herald and hes not a planet buster.

He could be a planet buster though.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Planet busting is more of a High Herald feat. And besides, most characters don't have planet destroying feats on panel with a few exceptions, but have displayed the power to or have been stated to have the output to achieve the feat.

On the flipside though, Hulk could likely destroy a planet and he's FAR from being a high or elite herald IMO.

Exactly.Thats why I propose low herald for avatar state aang.
Originally posted by amnesia
He could be a planet buster though.
Given enough time yes.