Originally posted by Creshosk
So it did happen And since it happened. its well over a planet buster.
With that logic I could say he's well below those levels by pointing out feats where he was K.O.ed' by the explosion of a gas station. So, lets use your logic and now supes is was below planet busting because low level feats "happen" 🙂
Originally posted by Creshosk
You still have not proven this.
He's consistently been hurt by punches, and K.O.'ed by things with much less force then Galaxy busting blast. So, yeah, I'm right.
Originally posted by Creshosk
It was an example. And yeah he has variable levels so yes, the rule still applies to him so yes he is still part of what we were discussing.
It's a bad example because Iron-mans changes completely when he changes armours. While supes doesn't change just because he gains more solar energy, he just becomes stronger. Infact, how exactly does changing armour corralate with getting extra energy? That's like comparing a change in weaponry to a physical workout.
Originally posted by Creshosk
The whole discussion of fists versus energy for one thing.
Different properties doesn't change the fact that durability is durability. Besides he's been hurt by Protex's energy and a butt load of others.
Originally posted by Creshosk
He was an example. Again, I grow weary of your antics. If you cannot follow simple trains of thought I'd have an easier time teaching quantum mechanics to the paper clip on my desk.
Stop whining and using Ad hominems.
Originally posted by Creshosk
So prove the level of the power of that blast then.
It's well below galaxy busting, since it's the same blast that martian manhunter has. Are you telling me that it's a "Galaxy Busting".
Originally posted by Creshosk
You have yet to prove that the feat is. Remember? You're supposed to show that his average is lower than the event in question in order to prove that the event in question is SvFL.You have consistantly failed to do that and have merely danced around the question.
I have proved it, how often does supes get hit with galaxy busting blast versus punches and regular energy blast? We both know it's farless, since he's only taken galaxy busting blast once versus a career of being hurt by lasers and punches.
Originally posted by Sandai KitetsuYou break the Full capacity rule then. 😆
With that logic I could say he's well below those levels by pointing out feats where he was K.O.ed' by the explosion of a gas station. So, lets use your logic and now supes is was below planet busting. 🙂
Originally posted by Sandai KitetsuYou claim that and yet resfuse to prove it.
He's consistently been hurt by punches, and K.O.'ed by things much less force then Galaxy busting blast. So, yeah, I'm right.
So this will be my last post to you. As you have not seen behind my ruse and I grow tired of this game.
Originally posted by Sandai KitetsuIrrelevant. He has varying levels and we default to Ironman, not "Hulk buster" for debates. He is a perfect example of the rule.
It's a bad example because Iron-mans different amours are completely different.
Originally posted by Sandai KitetsuH-Have you ever read...
While supes doesn't change just because he gains more solar enrgy, he just becomes stronger.
Okay this pretty much proves your ignoracnce on the subject and reverts all of your comments to bullshit. Your credibility has dropped.
Have you ever seen the sun dipped superman who looks all firey? Or the superman who sat in the core of a sun for a million years and comes out looking all golden?
"supes doesn't change just because he gains more solar enrgy"
I'll take that as a resounding no.
Originally posted by Sandai KitetsuSo you're saying that a blast of fire to torch is the same thing as a punch to the face? 🙄
Different properties doesn't change the fact that durability is durability.
I use him as an example to illustrate my point. different properties demonstrating that different durability to different attacks exists.
Originally posted by Sandai KitetsuOkay Mr Pot.
Besides he's been hurt by Protex's energy.Stop whining and using Ad hominems.
Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsuyou've proven nothing other than your inabilities. I'm done with you.
It's well below galaxy busting, since it's the same blast that martian manhunter has.I have proved it, how oftern does supes get hit with galaxy busting blast versus punches and regular energy blast?
Originally posted by Creshosk
You break the Full capacity rule then. 😆
Just like your breaking SVFL, by wanting to use Galaxy busting.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You claim that and yet resfuse to prove it.So this will be my last post to you. As you have not seen behind my ruse and I grow tired of this game.
-Punches from Captain Marvel
-Protex's eye beams
-Punches from the eradicator
-Energy beams from the Eradicator
-Energy Beams from Brainiac 13
I could go on. . .
Originally posted by Creshosk
Irrelevant. He has varying levels and we default to Ironman, not "Hulk buster" for debates. He is a perfect example of the rule.
Default supes power still fluctates, are you telling me that if someone effected the sun it would not effect defeaults supes powers?
Originally posted by Creshosk
H-Have you ever read...Okay this pretty much proves your ignoracnce on the subject and reverts all of your comments to bullshit. Your credibility has dropped.
Have you ever seen the sun dipped superman who looks all firey? Or the superman who sat in the core of a sun for a million years and comes out looking all golden?
"supes doesn't change just because he gains more solar enrgy"
I'll take that as a resounding no.
He doesn't change, he doesn't become a completely different character just by absorbing solar energy. The only exception is Superman prime, but that's evolution due to sundipping.
Originally posted by Creshosk
So you're saying that a blast of fire to torch is the same thing as a punch to the face? 🙄
No, I'm saying damage is damage. Your simply bringing up this energy stuff to make it seem like supes has the durability to take a Galaxy busting shot.
Originally posted by Creshosk
I use him as an example to illustrate my point. different properties demonstrating that different durability to different attacks exists.
Yes, yes, to justify galaxy busting durability. Besides, when has it been stated that he's resistant to particular forms of damage over the other.
Originally posted by Sandai KitetsuIf I had told you that I was trying to find out how you thought and how you reacted I'm pretty sure you would have responded differently. Sorry for tricking you like that but you did very well.
Wait, are you telling me this is some kind of test?
I've been seeing alot of new faces recently and want to see how they think rather than just what they think. You're actually the first one to respond as well as you did.
I'm particularly pleased you did so well because I like one of your old names "Blue nocturne".
Originally posted by Sandai KitetsuWell its an odd philosophy, but it helps me to see the way someone truly is. Without reservations of politeness and putting on a mask of pleasentry...
Well, I do not post much comic versus much. Also, the name was supposed to be "Nocturne of a broken heart". I couldn't fit it, so, I settle on the variation. But, beside that, assuming your telling the truth. Why do you test people?
Kinda hard to explain. But with the new flow of people it helps me to see what a person is like in ways faster than trying to think up a questionaire to find out about them.
I look foreward to seeing more of your posts around here. It was very interesting to read your posts. Hope I didn't offend you or anything. If I did I'm sorry.
Also if you want why don't you come check out the KMC Authority? there's a thread located in the Comic Books section. It's kind of a social thing where we're friends and we talk to each other.
Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
-Punches from Captain Marvel
-Protex's eye beams
-Punches from the eradicator
-Energy beams from the Eradicator
-Energy Beams from Brainiac 13
All of the above would pwn pretty much any DBZ character and would hurt or kill 90% of other characters.
Physically, DBZ characters cannot be compared to Superman level characters at all...they are wayyyyy below.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
All of the above would pwn pretty much any DBZ character and would hurt or kill 90% of other characters.Physically, DBZ characters cannot be compared to Superman level characters at all...they are wayyyyy below.
i wouldn't say thay. in the cell saga, gohan got smashed through a mountain and still got up. when pumping up their ki i think they can go toe to toe with supes any day. the only thing is they get tired. and when they do so, their strength and durability goes down fast.
so yeah, if cell pumped up his ki to full, he can go toe to toe with supes for about 5min or so (coz thats how long i think their fights acutaly lasts with all the speed blitzing they do).
then, SPLAT!!! no more cell.
Originally posted by Phenomenol
The Superman side is TOTALLY lying about Superman.Superman DIES by Cell easily.
This adds nothing to the debate.
Things like proof, and scans are what are needed here.
Cell would only last for a while against Supes if Superman isn't willing to kill right away.
Against someone like Cyborg Superman, the Eradicator, Zod, or even Majestic & Sentry Cell would be annihilated as they don't care for life in the same way Supes does.
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
i wouldn't say thay. in the cell saga, gohan got smashed through a mountain and still got up. when pumping up their ki i think they can go toe to toe with supes any day. the only thing is they get tired. and when they do so, their strength and durability goes down fast.so yeah, if cell pumped up his ki to full, he can go toe to toe with supes for about 5min or so (coz thats how long i think their fights acutaly lasts with all the speed blitzing they do).
then, SPLAT!!! no more cell.
While I don't fully agree, I appreciate the fact that you have a good approach to this debate.