Cell Vs Superman

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
With that logic I could say he's well below those levels by pointing out feats where he was K.O.ed' by the explosion of a gas station. So, lets use your logic and now supes is was below planet busting because low level feats "happen" 🙂

He's consistently been hurt by punches, and K.O.'ed by things with much less force then Galaxy busting blast. So, yeah, I'm right.

It's a bad example because Iron-mans changes completely when he changes armours. While supes doesn't change just because he gains more solar energy, he just becomes stronger. Infact, how exactly does changing armour corralate with getting extra energy? That's like comparing a change in weaponry to a physical workout.

Different properties doesn't change the fact that durability is durability. Besides he's been hurt by Protex's energy and a butt load of others.

Stop whining and using Ad hominems.

It's well below galaxy busting, since it's the same blast that martian manhunter has. Are you telling me that it's a "Galaxy Busting".

I have proved it, how often does supes get hit with galaxy busting blast versus punches and regular energy blast? We both know it's farless, since he's only taken galaxy busting blast once versus a career of being hurt by lasers and punches.

avalonofthewind
ide like to personally thank you for actually responding to things in a debate instead of going the crummy route, its very refreshing

Originally posted by Phenomenol
Wrong! Cell can destroy a Solar System and Supes has had his
@#$ beat by weaklings all the time. Supes is weak, slow and he dies.

This is not debating.

It equals putting your hands over your hears and yelling out what you want everyone to believe.

Simply prove your case with examples.

On Supermans case..it's not hard. It might be a lot tougher with DBZ characters.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
This is not debating.

It equals putting your hands over your hears and yelling out what you want everyone to believe.

Simply prove your case with examples.

On Supermans case..it's not hard. It might be a lot tougher with DBZ characters.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
All of the above would pwn pretty much any DBZ character and would hurt or kill 90% of other characters.

Physically, DBZ characters cannot be compared to Superman level characters at all...they are wayyyyy below.

Which is why supes wins.

Originally posted by Juntai
It was an explosion equal to as described on the panel, not neccisarily yellow sunlight.
And this was a drained Superman.

Solar energy absorption feats do not count for Supes.

Supes DIES terribly.

Guys... there's a reas on why I have
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He's just a rabid DBZ fanboy. All he has is his opinion, and he won't accept anything you say. He's little more than a troll.

Originally posted by Generic Hero

Thankyou for posting Superman RUNNING away from the blast!!!!

It stated if it touched him he would have DIED!!!! 🙂

Re-read the page, please.

The explosion was 50 times the size of a (large) supernova. In the fourth panel, he is knocked back by the explosion, but is generally not injured. Ergo, he tanks the force of the explosion rather well.

After the explosion, radiation rushes at him (Clearly shown in the sentence: "After it ["it" being the explosion] was an expanding ball of radiation..."😉, and he runs away from that.

Alright, in regards to withstanding the power of 50 supernovas I have to now say that I don't buy it.

The scan says that the size of the explosion would equal that of 50 super novas.

I will buy Superman's durability in this matter of surviving this large explosion. However I do not believe from this scan that Superman "sucked up" the combined power of 50 nova's.

Lets assume a hypothetical gun that has bullets that pack the power of a Super Nova.

If we fire 50 rounds of these at him I believe it will be sufficient to take him down. Note, I have no proof that it will take him down, but my point is I don't see any evidence that suggest that he would be fine and dandy after the 50 rounds.

Originally posted by Generic Hero
Re-read the page, please.

The explosion was 50 times the size of a (large) supernova. In the fourth panel, he is knocked back by the explosion, but is generally not injured. Ergo, he tanks the force of the explosion rather well.

After the explosion, radiation rushes at him, and he runs away from that.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think there is a diffrence. Note, the stuff that he is flying away .I would consider that to be more acurate of the power contained within the blast as opposed to the "knock back" force.

Again I am not trying to take away from his durability feat, just trying to bring it into prospective as to not stretch it.

Additionally as I read the scan I am led to believe that it was the electro magnetic shock wave that he is pushed back by. As opposed to the combined power of 50 super nova's.

Note, the stuff that he is flying away from I would consider to be more acurate of the power contained within the blast as opposed to the "knock back" force.

That's actually irrelevant. The panel specifically says the "knock back force", or whatever explosion knocked him backwards, had the force of 50 supernovas. The panel then refers to radiation coming after him as a completely different (albeit related) entity. The power coming after him could have been much more, but it's radiation, so Superman isn't too good against it. Besides, radiation doesn't explode, so the 50 supernovae thing simply could not have been referring to it.

Additionally as I read the scan I am led to believe that it was the electro magnetic shock wave that he is pushed back by.

Yes, and that's what the explosion was. Explosions are instant, it's not like there's an electro-magnetic shockwave that comes before an explosion or something. So the electro-magnetic shockwave -- the explosion -- contained the force of 50 supernovae and the radiation after it contained an undisclosed amount of severity.

Originally posted by Generic Hero
Re-read the page, please.

The explosion was 50 times the size of a (large) supernova. In the fourth panel, he is knocked back by the explosion, but is generally not injured. Ergo, he tanks the force of the explosion rather well.

After the explosion, radiation rushes at him (Clearly shown in the sentence: "After it ["it" being the explosion] was an expanding ball of radiation..."😉, and he runs away from that.

Thats the thing, Clark did not TAKE the explosion, the "SHOCKWAVE" came rushing at him at lightspeedt!!! That's not the explosion.

It states that the radiation would have killed him, and that is the result of the blast.

You just posted him not getting hit by anything. 🙄

heh heh, can we get that scan in link form. It is making the thread hard to read.

=)

Supes body absorbs solar energy like a sponge. So, is it really that surprising that he can survive a supernova?

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Supes body absorbs solar energy like a sponge. So, is it really that surprising that he can survive a supernova?

That's what I told these fanboys pages ago, but they will use anything. 🙄

Originally posted by Generic Hero
That's actually irrelevant. The panel specifically says the "knock back force", or whatever explosion knocked him backwards, had the force of 50 supernovas. The panel then refers to radiation coming after him as a completely different (albeit related) entity. The power coming after him could have been much more, but it's radiation, so Superman isn't too good against it.

Yes, and that's what the explosion was. Explosions are instant, it's not like there's an electro-magnetic shockwave that comes before an explosion or something. So the electro-magnetic shockwave -- the explosion -- contained the force of 50 supernovae and the radiation after it contained an undisclosed amount of severity.

Well, I am not to sure about that. The scan says size. It does not say that the electro magnetic shock wave packed the combined power of 50 supernova's. I am being really precise about which words I use because I do think there is a diffrence.

I don't think that we can say that the electro magnetic shock wave was the explosion. There is a big diffrence.

I mean I don't know where this explosion came from but who is to say that an electro magnetic shock wave cannot come before whatever in this case. Can we safely determine the physics of whatever that thing is superman is flying into?

Supes body absorbs solar energy like a sponge. So, is it really that surprising that he can survive a supernova?

A few things wrong with this response:
- No where on the panel was it said that it was a supernova. The explosion was 50 times the size of a supernova.
- In fact, it was specified to be an electro-magnetic shockwave.
- Unless Superman got a new power, he can't absorb electro-magnetism O_o

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
Supes body absorbs solar energy like a sponge. So, is it really that surprising that he can survive a supernova?

Not at all surprising. I would expect him to survive one. I am only attempting to make two points.

One being that the above scan does not show that Superman can survive my hypothetic gun situation that I described maybe 3 post ago.

And Two, being surviving is diffrent from being hurt. I am of the oppinion that if Superman got touched by the force of a Super Nova he would indeed be in bad shape or atleast very very hurt.