Originally posted by pr1983So, anyways.
ok...😂
evenin all...
I was thinking:
Possible inter-forum tourney ideas. This goes with Topic #3, basically.
1. We could have it free for all. This means that as many people join from both sides, and could end up debating against each other.
2. We could have it epic. This means that we would have three seperate sections : Street/Meta, High Meta (Ironman level), Herald level. We set up two teams (or one team, I suppose), per level, against two of opposing forum.
3. We could have it regular. This means designate a specific level, set up a couple teams from each side, and duke it out.
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
So, anyways.I was thinking:
Possible inter-forum tourney ideas. This goes with Topic #3, basically.
1. We could have it free for all. This means that as many people join from both sides, and could end up debating against each other.
2. We could have it epic. This means that we would have three seperate sections : Street/Meta, High Meta (Ironman level), Herald level. We set up two teams (or one team, I suppose), per level, against two of opposing forum.
3. We could have it regular. This means designate a specific level, set up a couple teams from each side, and duke it out.
i like 2 and 3... i think if its a free for all it sort of takes away any sort of... pride? if you win...
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
So, anyways.I was thinking:
Possible inter-forum tourney ideas. This goes with Topic #3, basically.
1. We could have it free for all. This means that as many people join from both sides, and could end up debating against each other.
2. We could have it epic. This means that we would have three seperate sections : Street/Meta, High Meta (Ironman level), Herald level. We set up two teams (or one team, I suppose), per level, against two of opposing forum.
3. We could have it regular. This means designate a specific level, set up a couple teams from each side, and duke it out.
Originally posted by Akuki
I really didn't expect this of you Illagrok.
Aizen doesn't need to multilayer illusions because his single illusion takes hold of all 5 senses permanently and be made to see anything he wishes.Aizen can't maintain faster than eye speed? Bleach characters achieved faster than eyespeed back when Renji and Byakuya went to the regular world and under 1/10 of his power was able to move 100 yards stab ichigo twice, resheath his sword and then move away before Ichigo could even blink, and Ichigo had pretty impressive reflexes at that point. If we go further Ixhigo in Bankai form was able to block attacks by thousands of projectiles moving at the speed of bullets by knocking down each individual one with his sword. That sort of speed is what Aizen was able to easily block and counter, and Aizen has been stated to be as good as it is possible to get with Shunpo, or fast movement techniques making porbably as good or more likely far better than Ichigo's bankai speed.
Aizen has over a 1000 years of combat experience, and is one of the best swordsman and hand to hand fighters in soul society even without his illusions to help him. He doesn't need to see ahead, his speed and abilities will allow him to pull the feat that byakuya did and simply slice off Itachi;s head before he does anything.
Itachi's illusions rely on inflicting pain on the opponent through their fears. Aizen is referred to numerous times as The man without fear. Also Aizen can easily inflict pain through the illusion. He controls all 5 senses and as such can make an opponent feel just about anything, if he wanted to he could make Itachi think he was on fire and use his senses to match the illusion. Also Itachi's illusion can only be used for a short period of time and is highly draining, while Aizen's is completely permanent.
That wouldn't hold on KMC.
1. Ichigo was obviously tired when he attacked Aizen. Anyone can see that, he was near death.
2. Aizen CLAIMS to have mastered all the forms. Until we actually see him do anything, that claim can't be used as any feat. People claim all sorts of things in comics.
3. Tite's Kubo lack of common sense shouldn't affect us. How a character can spend hours moving across Soul Society, and still move as fast as they do, is beyond me. Orihime and Nell are capable of following Ichigo and Grimmjaw's fight, yet they're supposed to be far more stronger and faster than Byakuya. Try wrapping your mind around that logic. Orihime obviously hasn't gone through any "perception upgrades" as far as we know.
4. Itachi does NOT rely on using people's fears when using genjutsu. It's never stated that the Sharingan needs to take advantage of people's fears. It CAN do it, but it's not a prerequisite for him to use it. Genjutsu can do all sorts of things.
5. Let's take Naruto and Sasuke's fight in example. Naruto was empowered by Kyuubi and was moving pretty fast. Sasuke could see him clearly and see the moves before he even made them. Sasuke's sharingan wasn't even comparable to Itachi's. When Itachi was 12 he schooled 3 Uchiha members with the three dotted Sharingan before they could react. It took him a second.
6. It shouldn't really matter what senses Aizen's illusions affect, because Itachi can see straight through them. Until we've been told otherwise, Itachi's Sharingan can see through anything. Aizen's illusions has been seen through before, it shouldn't be any problems for Itachi. When it comes to Aizen, he has no way of seeing through Itachi's illusions.
Comparing Naruto to Bleach is very difficult, since both their writers seems to take some liberties when it comes to speed and such. Granted, Aizen could be a million times faster than Itachi. But we've seen the two of them move faster than any ordinary human can perceive.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Thank you for welcoming me. And as for tourney formats... free-for-all seems not only chaotic, but not too much "tourney-like".
I'd prefer second format...looks more organized.
Welcome to the gang!
As for the formats, I agree with Charlotte and Akuki. Form 1 would be chaos, I personally think that form 2 would be the best.
Not only format 1 would be chaos, but allowing such unstructirised thing would probably result in trolling and bias claims, which is bad for any vs thing, and we're planning to make it a torney.
Chaotic structire would result in some people being tempted to post the stuff like, for example "Wolverine WTFPWNZ entire MK universe simply because he's friggin' Wolverine"...though that might be just my fears.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Not only format 1 would be chaos, but allowing such unstructirised thing would probably result in trolling and bias claims, which is bad for any vs thing, and we're planning to make it a torney.
Chaotic structire would result in some people being tempted to post the stuff like, for example "Wolverine WTFPWNZ entire MK universe simply because he's friggin' Wolverine"...though that might be just my fears.
meant to say it earlier, welcome to the team...
Originally posted by pr1983Yeah, it's just that free for all would be the easiest to set up. Personally I'd prefer the second one, it just depends on level of response, etc.
i like 2 and 3... i think if its a free for all it sort of takes away any sort of... pride? if you win...
Yeah, by SC I meant Symmetric. He's a member here, but hardly posts. Next time someone sees him, bug him about it.
As for 1 being chatic- perhaps, though it's how we do normal tourneys. Same tourney format, but people aren't on a team or representing a forum.
Perhaps I didn't explain it well enough- essentially it would be like a normal tournament. People join, choose characters, and we set the matches up with a set number of posts per side, etc. The difference between this and the other two is that instead of KMC vs. Whoever, it becomes a normal tournament that incorporates multiple forums...
About location- finding a third forum to debate on would be a pain in the ass. It would make the most sense to find a system to interchange between where people debate. For instance, match 1 would be at KMC, match 2 (different combatants) would be at the other forum.
The biggest problem I see with this is the fact that new members around here can't posts pictures or links...
Originally posted by llagrok
That wouldn't hold on KMC.1. Ichigo was obviously tired when he attacked Aizen. Anyone can see that, he was near death.
2. Aizen CLAIMS to have mastered all the forms. Until we actually see him do anything, that claim can't be used as any feat. People claim all sorts of things in comics.
3. Tite's Kubo lack of common sense shouldn't affect us. How a character can spend hours moving across Soul Society, and still move as fast as they do, is beyond me. Orihime and Nell are capable of following Ichigo and Grimmjaw's fight, yet they're supposed to be far more stronger and faster than Byakuya. Try wrapping your mind around that logic. Orihime obviously hasn't gone through any "perception upgrades" as far as we know.
4. Itachi does NOT rely on using people's fears when using genjutsu. It's never stated that the Sharingan needs to take advantage of people's fears. It CAN do it, but it's not a prerequisite for him to use it. Genjutsu can do all sorts of things.
5. Let's take Naruto and Sasuke's fight in example. Naruto was empowered by Kyuubi and was moving pretty fast. Sasuke could see him clearly and see the moves before he even made them. Sasuke's sharingan wasn't even comparable to Itachi's. When Itachi was 12 he schooled 3 Uchiha members with the three dotted Sharingan before they could react. It took him a second.
6. It shouldn't really matter what senses Aizen's illusions affect, because Itachi can see straight through them. Until we've been told otherwise, Itachi's Sharingan can see through anything. Aizen's illusions has been seen through before, it shouldn't be any problems for Itachi. When it comes to Aizen, he has no way of seeing through Itachi's illusions.
Comparing Naruto to Bleach is very difficult, since both their writers seems to take some liberties when it comes to speed and such. Granted, Aizen could be a million times faster than Itachi. But we've seen the two of them move faster than any ordinary human can perceive.
Unfortunately Aizen has not been seen in combat pushed to show his true strength and based on the usual bleach math, he was operating at around 1% of what he will be when Ichigo finally fights him, however from what i have read of the Naruto manga, I see nothing to indicate that Naruto characters reach the speeds and reflexes of Bleach characters such as Grimmjow and Vaizard Ichigo. While it is a general plot rule in all manga and comics that the boss will always be more powerful than his minions, unfortunately we still can't use that to show Aizen's strength, however we can show that Aizen has superhuman levels of stength that far exceed naruto characters( he stopped a strong punch from a creature the size of a 10 story building), and we can definitely say he can use any spell shown so far in the series, as all the others are lower level spells. He also has superhuman resistance to damage and stamina that make it nearly impossible to hurt him. Keep in mind that the stronger an individuals reiatsu the stronger they are, and the more able to resist damage they are. Grimmjow was able to make a pretty even fight with full vaizard Ichigo, and Aizen was able to force Grimmjow to his knees with just his reiatsu, thereby showing he has over 5 times more reiatsu than Grimmjow, I don't really see any of Itachi's attacks being able to pentrate that sort of outside armor, and nearly all of Aizen's attacks would be fatal to Itachi.
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Perhaps I didn't explain it well enough- essentially it would be like a normal tournament. People join, choose characters, and we set the matches up with a set number of posts per side, etc. The difference between this and the other two is that instead of KMC vs. Whoever, it becomes a normal tournament that incorporates multiple forums...
that'd work i guess...
About location- finding a third forum to debate on would be a pain in the ass. It would make the most sense to find a system to interchange between where people debate. For instance, match 1 would be at KMC, match 2 (different combatants) would be at the other forum.
sounds good...
The biggest problem I see with this is the fact that new members around here can't posts pictures or links...
hmm... yeah, that would be a problem...
lookaround
Originally posted by pr1983
oh, question... Smurph... you know how people have a real character and now a custom, any chance i could take a second real character instead of a custom?
Originally posted by Akuki
Unfortunately Aizen has not been seen in combat pushed to show his true strength and based on the usual bleach math, he was operating at around 1% of what he will be when Ichigo finally fights him, however from what i have read of the Naruto manga, I see nothing to indicate that Naruto characters reach the speeds and reflexes of Bleach characters such as Grimmjow and Vaizard Ichigo. While it is a general plot rule in all manga and comics that the boss will always be more powerful than his minions, unfortunately we still can't use that to show Aizen's strength, however we can show that Aizen has superhuman levels of stength that far exceed naruto characters( he stopped a strong punch from a creature the size of a 10 story building), and we can definitely say he can use any spell shown so far in the series, as all the others are lower level spells. He also has superhuman resistance to damage and stamina that make it nearly impossible to hurt him. Keep in mind that the stronger an individuals reiatsu the stronger they are, and the more able to resist damage they are. Grimmjow was able to make a pretty even fight with full vaizard Ichigo, and Aizen was able to force Grimmjow to his knees with just his reiatsu, thereby showing he has over 5 times more reiatsu than Grimmjow, I don't really see any of Itachi's attacks being able to pentrate that sort of outside armor, and nearly all of Aizen's attacks would be fatal to Itachi.
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Originally posted by pr1983Well, afaik, the first character's only real application is the Battle Zone, whereas the second character is mainly for Cresh's micros... again, afaik, the only restriction on this is that Goob's character has to be real, not custom. I don't know whether Cresh objects to making real characters, but that's his call.
oh, question... Smurph... you know how people have a real character and now a custom, any chance i could take a second real character instead of a custom?
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Well, afaik, the first character's only real application is the Battle Zone, whereas the second character is mainly for Cresh's micros... again, afaik, the only restriction on this is that Goob's character has to be real, not custom. I don't know whether Cresh objects to making real characters, but that's his call.
ah, no, i don't mind if cresh is up for it or not, and the character i pick wouldn't really be in the battle zone much...
i meant a real comic character, not like a movie one or anything...
Originally posted by pr1983But it doesn't have the braggin rights that the other two do... I'd like a "KMC pwnz all!!1!" finish more, personally.
that'd work i guess...
Originally posted by pr1983Hrmm...
sounds good...hmm... yeah, that would be a problem...
lookaround
Also, I was totally responding to that post of yours before you quoted it again. sly
Originally posted by pr1983Wait, who's been picking movie characters? haermm
ah, no, i don't mind if cresh is up for it or not, and the character i pick wouldn't really be in the battle zone much...i meant a real comic character, not like a movie one or anything...
If you want a second character in addition to Supes, I don't see a problem, only that as a disclaimer, Goob wouldnt allow it for his Battle Zone. But, just as a preference? Go for it.
I'm so confused.
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Yeah, it's just that free for all would be the easiest to set up. Personally I'd prefer the second one, it just depends on level of response, etc.Yeah, by SC I meant Symmetric. He's a member here, but hardly posts. Next time someone sees him, bug him about it.
As for 1 being chatic- perhaps, though it's how we do normal tourneys. Same tourney format, but people aren't on a team or representing a forum.
Perhaps I didn't explain it well enough- essentially it would be like a normal tournament. People join, choose characters, and we set the matches up with a set number of posts per side, etc. The difference between this and the other two is that instead of KMC vs. Whoever, it becomes a normal tournament that incorporates multiple forums...
About location- finding a third forum to debate on would be a pain in the ass. It would make the most sense to find a system to interchange between where people debate. For instance, match 1 would be at KMC, match 2 (different combatants) would be at the other forum.
The biggest problem I see with this is the fact that new members around here can't posts pictures or links...
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
But it doesn't have the braggin rights that the other two do... I'd like a "KMC pwnz all!!1!" finish more, personally.
Hrmm...
oh, i'd definitely want bragging rights...
Also, I was totally responding to that post of yours before you quoted it again. sly
my bad... 😛
Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Wait, who's been picking movie characters? haermmIf you want a second character in addition to Supes, I don't see a problem, only that as a disclaimer, Goob wouldnt allow it for his Battle Zone. But, just as a preference? Go for it.
I'm so confused.
lol, ok, then i pick:
Cyclops...