End up in Hell if you stole a Penny ?

Originally posted by willRules
Well again, you have an issue with God's sense of judgement. But I believe that God is all powerful and all loving. There couldn't be anything more just than God. He created justice, he knows what it is better than we do. ✅

What you call God's sense of justice goes against Logic. That's the problem.

You cannot be all loving if you send people to Hell as punishment for anything. That is hatred.

No offense, but your beleif is completely Blind. You are not seeing what is really there, only what you want to see.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
What you call God's sense of justice goes against Logic. That's the problem.

You cannot be all loving if you send people to Hell as punishment for anything. That is hatred.

No offense, but your beleif is completely Blind. You are not seeing what is really there, only what you want to see.

It's only hatred if you want to send people to hell. It's only hatred when you send someone because you hate them. I believe in an all loving God. He however doesn't choose to send us to hell, we make that choice very much of our own accord ✅

Originally posted by willRules
It's only hatred if you want to send people to hell. It's only hatred when you send someone because you hate them. I believe in an all loving God. He however doesn't choose to send us to hell, we make that choice very much of our own accord ✅

It's only hatred to torture someone if you hate them ? 😬

But it's okay to torture someone if you love them ?

And no, no one chooses to go to Hell. If the Nazis attack me, and send me to a concentration camp, I didn't choose to go there. They forced me to.

Hell =/= torture. That is a false tradition. Hell will be unpleasant, but that will be of your own accord.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Hell =/= torture. That is a false tradition. Hell will be unpleasant, but that will be of your own accord.

So for all I know, Hell will be an eternal math class ?

So what about all the hell fire and brimstone, and gnashing of teeth, and eternal torment and sorrow ? 😬

Eternal torment and sorrow doesn't mean anyone will do it to you. You will be doing it to yourself, completely and utterly separated from God.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
The [b]basis of the question is would you End up in Hell if you steal a penny?

Now..for the sake of avoiding repetitive and circular arguments, as well as semantics and loose circumstances, I will clarify the confines of the question, so i can get a straight answer:

Let's say a child grows up in a (Christian, Jewish, or Muslim) household, and this child specifically adheres to the teachings of either (the Torah, Bible, or Quran, whichever u beleive) to the best they can, always conciously, and this child's parents have a strict discipline to thier basis of Faith.

The child grows upto teenage years, having never disobeyed a rule, not conciously, always having the intent to serve thier God, to obey thier parents and live by thier Faith as best he or she can.

But one day, this teenager, sees a person drop thier penny on the floor, and steals it.

The stole.

They have sinned, with intention.

They die the day after, without having sed they are sorry, without the slighest bit of remourse, but knowing they have done something against the discipline of thier Faith.

Will this person end up in Hell ? For one sin ? Why or why not ?

* I sincerely Hope someone with brains gets the intent of this question....otherwise, I give up 🙄 [/B]

According to most Christian beliefs, though some may not want to admit it, YES they will go to hell because they did not repent. There are some Catholics that wear a special type necklace for just that purpose. It's a protector in case you forget thingie.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Eternal torment and sorrow doesn't mean anyone will do it to you. You will be doing it to yourself, completely and utterly separated from God.

But Hell is eternal torment and sorrow, no ?

And over what, a penny ?

Secondly, what will I do to myself ? I doubt I would torment myself at all after death 🙄

Perhaps if all you do is steal a penny your hell won't be so bad. Others might not be so lucky. And you will do it because you will be confronted with all your sins and they will all be called to attention at judgment day, even those that you have forgotten. And without the flesh you will be confronted with them everyday and the complete separation from God will also torment you because believe it or not, you are not completely separated from God yet.

that argument doesnt hold ground because in the scriptures god has made it very clear that he is NOT with the unbelievers. in their existance or heart. so the whole, SEPERATION FORM GOD=PAIN{hell} thing doesnt hold true. atheists, satanists and people of a relegion other than yours{as you believe} are as seperated from god as can be. they live on this earth and are not in hell.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Perhaps if all you do is steal a penny your hell won't be so bad. Others might not be so lucky. And you will do it because you will be confronted with all your sins and they will all be called to attention at judgment day, even those that you have forgotten. And without the flesh you will be confronted with them everyday and the complete separation from God will also torment you because believe it or not, you are not completely separated from God yet.

Then why is it that I am happier now as a non beleiver, then I was as a beleiver ?

You may be closer now than before without you knowing it. Perhaps God is moving in you more now without you knowing, perhaps there is more prayer for you, perhaps Satan is working less against you because he already won... There are many things that we'll never know. Your life as a "believer" didn't seem to involve a healthy relationship with God. It seems more like an immature "I believe because my parents do" type of thing from what I've demised.

Originally posted by Nellinator
You may be closer now than before without you knowing it. Perhaps God is moving in you more now without you knowing, perhaps there is more prayer for you, perhaps Satan is working less against you because he already won... There are many things that we'll never know. Your life as a "believer" didn't seem to involve a healthy relationship with God. It seems more like an immature "I believe because my parents do" type of thing from what I've demised.

I didn't stop beleiving until I actually began reading the Bible. How much does that say ?

How can I be close to God at all, when I deny his existance completely ?

Originally posted by Bicnarok
1. Only God can judge who is destroyed

2. Hell doens´t exist and is NEVER mentioned in any of the original texts, Sheol and Hades are mistranslated to scare the crap out of people to join the corrupt, power hungry catholic church.

BING-BING-BING!

You don't go to hell for sins. Matter of fact no one goes to hell, only the people who sinned and died before Christ's sacrifice, I think.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
BING-BING-BING!

You don't go to hell for sins. Matter of fact no one goes to hell.

So our Bible is fallible.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
So our Bible is fallible.

No. People just mistranslate it, because they're retards. I am a Jehovah's Witness, a sect of Christianity, and people don't go to hell for there sins.

Originally posted by BlaxicanHydra
No. People just mid translate it, because they're retards. I am a Jehovah's Witness, a sect of Christianity, and people don't go to hell for there sins.

MARCELLO is gonna have a field day with you 😆

MARCELLO can kiss my ass 🙂

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I didn't stop beleiving until I actually began reading the Bible. How much does that say ?

How can I be close to God at all, when I deny his existance completely ?

Because he created you.

Originally posted by Nellinator
It doesn't tell me anything. I'd suggest that I've studied the Bible as much as you, that we are of comparable intelligences and came to different conclusions. It doesn't tell if I'm right or if you are. It's pretty neutral. You not agreeing with something doesn't make it untrue necessarily.

Because he created you.

So you actually beleive a Gay/bisexual, promiscious Buddhist, who has slight anger issues, is close to God ?

😆