Re: Toguro vs. Colossus
Originally posted by Akuki
Who wins?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Toguro#Younger_Toguro
piotr loses
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasUm it isn't like a crater sized attack is the worst Colossus has taken 😕
Just a cool vid of what an 80% Toguro can shrug off.Ypz7XlpvPhI&NR=1
Colossus wins.
Toguro has the speed advantage although Piotr is no slouch either and I would I say that Colossus is stronger than the youngest Toguro and far more durable.
Um it isn't like a crater sized attack is the worst Colossus has taken
Indeed. Weaker attacks have taken him down.
Toguro has the speed advantage although Piotr is no slouch either and I would I say that Colossus is stronger than the youngest Toguro and far more durable.
Yeah, Hiei could vaporize multiple, massive ock formations at this point just by powering up. He wasn't close to Toguro. Toguro's power melts people.
In fact, what sort of durability does Piotr have on his soul? In his full demon form, Toguro could just suck up Colossus' soul.
Toguro wouldn't let Piotr lay a hand on him. And Toguro took stronger attacks.
You gonna say a punch from Colossus ever did as much damage as that Spirit Gun? If you say yes, do show it.
Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasSeeing as Colossus is immune to magic very good soul protection. Although Toguro never used soul absorption. so it is a moot point anyways
Indeed. Weaker attacks have taken him down.Yeah, Hiei could vaporize multiple, massive ock formations at this point just by powering up. He wasn't close to Toguro. Toguro's power melts people.
In fact, what sort of durability does Piotr have on his soul? In his full demon form, Toguro could just suck up Colossus' soul.
Toguro wouldn't let Piotr lay a hand on him. And Toguro took stronger attacks.
You gonna say a punch from Colossus ever did as much damage as that Spirit Gun? If you say yes, do show it.
Let's see Colossus has taken shots from Cyclops and Havok both of whom have easily reproduced the effect of that Spirit Gun.
He has fallen from over a mile from the sky completely unhurt.
He has taken Repulsor blasts from Ironman who could easily exceed what Hiei did there.
The guy has stood in an active Volcano and broken Vibranium before.
All of these feats are greater or at the very least equal to what Toguro took and those aren't even Colossus' best showings.
No Colossus has never punched something and caused as great as collateral damage as the Spirit gun you wouldn't expect a punch to be able to do that even Toguro has to release his Demon Energy to cause wide spread damage like that.
But on the other hand Colossus' punches have been able to hurt people that Cyclops own blasts couldn't do so in terms of power I say Colossus could easily knock Toguro for a loop.
By the way Toguro wasn't that fast.
Seeing as Colossus is immune to magic very good soul protection.
Come again? What does this have to do with magic?
Although Toguro never used soul absorption. so it is a moot point anyways
Most of the demons in the stadium when Toguro went 100% disagree.
Let's see Colossus has taken shots from Cyclops and Havok both of whom have easily reproduced the effect of that Spirit Gun.
This is not about what he can take. It's about what he can dish out.
He has fallen from over a mile from the sky completely unhurt.
Impact crater would show how truly hard the fall was.
I'd wager the one punch an 80% Toguro gave the ground is bigger than the hole Colossus' mab when falling.
He has taken Repulsor blasts from Ironman who could easily exceed what Hiei did there.
It depends on the armor, why he was attackign Colossus and so-forth. Variables. A lot of feats sound cooler than they actually are.
The guy has stood in an active Volcano and broken Vibranium before.
Heat temperature due to the composition of his skin will mean what in this match?
All of these feats are greater or at the very least equal to what Toguro took and those aren't even Colossus' best showings.
Then do tell what his best are.
By the way Toguro wasn't that fast.
Faster than Yusuke and Yusuke was faster than Hiei in Saint Beast Saga. Hiei back then could strike 16 times per second.
Yes, that's how these types of shows function. It's the DBZ Power Level thing.
This is a post from another person. I don't read manga but whatever. I'll make good use of it.
To understand exactly how fast Toguro is, you need to go back quite a distance. A good start is the Saint Beasts Arc.
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So basically, Saint Beasts Hiei is capable of cutting a guy 16 times before he can punch once. This same guy is capable of punching hundreds of times in a split second. Using even the lowest numbers possible, that means Saint Beasts Hiei is capable of cutting thousands of times per second.
Yusuke is later able to match a more powerful version of Hiei several volumes later in the manga (although he probably matches Saint Beasts Hiei earlier on):
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Toguro fights evenly with a Yusuke that is even faster than the one at the beginning of the Tournament. Not to mention that Yusuke becomes far faster even during the fight with Toguro, and Toguro responds with increases in speed and power.
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Originally posted by Shin_NikkolasSeeing as Colossus' punches are as good as Cyclop's attacks which were better than that Spirit Gun I think that he could hurt Toguro.
Come again? What does this have to do with magic?Most of the demons in the stadium when Toguro went 100% disagree.
This is not about what he can take. It's about what he can dish out.
Impact crater would show how truly hard the fall was.
I'd wager the one punch an 80% Toguro gave the ground is bigger than the hole Colossus' mab when falling.
It depends on the armor, why he was attackign Colossus and so-forth. Variables. A lot of feats sound cooler than they actually are.
Heat temperature due to the composition of his skin will mean what in this match?
Then do tell what his best are.
Faster than Yusuke and Yusuke was faster than Hiei in Saint Beast Saga. Hiei back then could strike 16 times per second.
Yes, that's how these types of shows function. It's the DBZ Power Level thing.
And by speed I mean that it wasn't like Toguro was can run around at that speed and I know what Episode you are talking about with the Blue Dragon. Plus Toguro never showed he could hit 16 times per second in fact the only person who has actually been quantified like that was Hiei.
Everyone else was far from hitting like that
And the magic immunity was showing he had a resistance to the supernatural which oddly enough Demon Energy is unless Yuske wasn't a supernatural detective 😉
Not really Cyclops has created craters as big as the one Toguro made before and seeing as Colossus' punches have effected things that Cyclops beams couldn't it isn't a real speculation that Colossus can hit really really hard
Except that the power of those punches and the power of Cyke's optic blasts both vary immensely.
