Originally posted by Superherovandali state facts. take them as u will. that is all. i dont lie. i assure u and i dont twist things around for the character i prefer in each and every particular thread im involved in.
I trust Juntai when it comes to Spectre hell of a lot more than i do with you...You seem to have some sort of vendetta against DC characters... In many threads you seem to want to prove how much better Marvel chars are than DC ones..
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
During the Crisis on Infinite Earths , Spectre had [B]infinite power and he was also omnipotent , which was stated by The Presence/God . At that moment , he alone would beat all of the characters involved in the Infinity Gauntley saga , with or without The Living Tribunal . [/B]
Not to forget that the Cube Beings also have infinite power and shit, and they are beneath the Celestial´s.
And I don´t know how many times it was stated that the wielder of the Infinite Gauntlet was to be omnipotent, God and so forth.
If I´m not mistaken the Cube Beings have also been refered to as omnipotent by the Living Tribunal, who is even more powerful.
So basicly you´re saying because Spectre had infinite power, he could beat other with infinite power such as the Celestial´s and Galactus, yet alone the wielder of the Infinity Gauntlet?
Four gem´s have been a threat to all realities of Marvel, not to mention that a incomplete Gauntlet neutralized the powers of the Ultimate Nullifier, which have destroyed the Multiverse on panel, pretty much what the Anti-Monitor was going to, except that Magus absorbed the UN´s power without any effort at all.
What again?
There's a difference between having infinite power and being omnipotent . Apparently you haven't actually understood what the person in the scan wanted to say when he made that analogy so let me elaborate it for you . Let's just say that there is a person who has infinite control over Gravity (The 1,2,3,4 example) and that there's also a person who has infinite control over Electromagnetism (The 2,4,6,8 example) . Now , if another person exists that has infinite control over the four fundamental forces (The whole numbers example), those being Gravity , Electromagnetism the Strong and Weak nuclear force than this being surpasses the other 2 beings since it encomasses their powers also .
In order to be omnipotent it means that your power must be all-encompassing , to include all areas .
I can easily prove that the cosmic cubes aren't omnipotent since they don't have infinite power over certain areas . I can also prove that Infinity Gauntley doesn't mean omnipotence since it's inferior to someone and also doesn't have control over all aspects .
On the other side , it's quite easily to prove that Spectre had total and infinite control over everything because The Presence/God stated it :
"His power once limitless , is now dormant , untapped (reffering to Pre-Crisis)"
"Yours was the Power Omnipotent"
"Indeed your Power Omnipotent was so great , so All-Encompassing"
It's not that hard to comprehend .
Originally posted by quanchi112
i state facts. take them as u will. that is all. i dont lie. i assure u and i dont twist things around for the character i prefer in each and every particular thread im involved in.
Originally posted by Estacado
quanchi getting the best of Juntai???haermm
Are you high?
crylaugh
Originally posted by quanchi112
u have been called out tonight on ur crappy recollection of a comic. post a scan becuz ur word isnt worth a thing here especially when someone called u out 25 minutes ago or so. scan it and prove it otherwise remain silent.
Hilarious.
Originally posted by Juntai
My word is pefectly fine, everyone makes a mistake now and then. My credibility isn't in question here. You have no credibility to speak on however.
Gets offended that he was wrong and says quanchi has no credibility.
What does that equal? quanchi getting the best of Juntai haermm
Originally posted by Air Legend
No. Here's why.Hilarious.
Gets offended that he was wrong and says quanchi has no credibility.
What does that equal? quanchi getting the best of Juntai haermm
Originally posted by Estacado
Anyone can make mistakes and quanchi doesn't have credibility at all because he talks bullshit most of the time......
Yes that's why Juntai shouldn't have said his word is PERFECTLY fine. There was no reason for him to say that quanchi has NO credibility- he's actually posting scans with his claims, amazing huh?
Originally posted by Air LegendI can't even see what Quanchi posts unless I specifically choose to or see them in quotes. His claims mean nothing to me.
Yes that's why Juntai shouldn't have said his word is PERFECTLY fine. There was no reason for him to say that quanchi has NO credibility- he's actually posting scans with his claims, amazing huh?
Originally posted by Air LegendNot even close. It's just not bothering with someone with no credibility.
No. Here's why.Hilarious.
Gets offended that he was wrong and says quanchi has no credibility.
What does that equal? quanchi getting the best of Juntai haermm
Originally posted by Mr MasterFair enough, but he didn't actually battle a IG wielder was what I was getting at there.
As you wish.On Panel and certified in the 2006 Official bio
Marvel established that the LT is more powerful than the IG.Now we can beat ourselves over the head with what was,
what could've been, this, that and third,but the bottomline is:
LT >>> IG according to Marvel. 🙂
It's even funnier that it wasn't LT who said that,
but the TOAA himself.
Go figure. 😂
My point about the ordeal was that most of LT's power is extrapolation or off panel or random claim. Spectre's done amazing things on panel.
But part of that I fully understand is the nature of the charaters in general. Their jobs to speak.
But why we're at it, why would TOAA say that he REPRESENTS a higher power?
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherrjust like he alone stopped the am. oh thats right he needed uber help.
During the Crisis on Infinite Earths , Spectre had [B]infinite power and he was also omnipotent , which was stated by The Presence/God . At that moment , he alone would beat all of the characters involved in the Infinity Gauntley saga , with or without The Living Tribunal . [/B]
he needed help from various sorcerers and magicians to stand up to the am. wasnt of his own power and borrowed just like am borrowed. remained comatose after his confrontation with am while darksied and luthor gave him the old zappo. superman later killed him and delivered the fatal blow.
spectre was inferior to the am and please deal with this.
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr👆
There's a difference between having infinite power and being omnipotent . Apparently you haven't actually understood what the person in the scan wanted to say when he made that analogy so let me elaborate it for you . Let's just say that there is a person who has infinite control over Gravity (The 1,2,3,4 example) and that there's also a person who has infinite control over Electromagnetism (The 2,4,6,8 example) . Now , if another person exists that has infinite control over the four fundamental forces (The whole numbers example), those being Gravity , Electromagnetism the Strong and Weak nuclear force than this being surpasses the other 2 beings since it encomasses their powers also .
In order to be omnipotent it means that your power must be all-encompassing , to include all areas .
I can easily prove that the cosmic cubes aren't omnipotent since they don't have infinite power over certain areas . I can also prove that Infinity Gauntley doesn't mean omnipotence since it's inferior to someone and also doesn't have control over all aspects .On the other side , it's quite easily to prove that Spectre had total and infinite control over everything because [B]The Presence/God
stated it :"His power once limitless , is now dormant , untapped (reffering to Pre-Crisis)"
"Yours was the Power Omnipotent"
"Indeed your Power Omnipotent was so great , so All-Encompassing"It's not that hard to comprehend . [/B]
Originally posted by Superherovandal👆
sure he can...but either way..a depowered spectre was more powerful than anyone else in the the entire Day of Vengeance special...Which is why he never lost...he just was put into a host by God...He beat Nabu a Lord of Order who existed before time...and Shazam....and Phantom Stranger.
