infinity gauntlet vs crisis on infinite earths

Started by Juntai21 pages

Originally posted by Astner
DoV Spectre was so powerful appearently only the Presence could stop him.
And he had a lot of trouble defeating magicians throughout the universe, the Living Tribunal would simply blink anyone else in marvel out of existance.

Just because an old non canon Amalgam comic put the Living Triubnal and Spectre next to eachother doesn´t mean more than what they did with Impossibleman and Mxyzptlk.

You have to remember that he was crazy, raged, depowered, and all sorts of other variables. For a guy who could collapse and build universes he wasn't thinking big.
He did make note during the series though, that "it doesn't matter how long it takes, only that it is done.".
And he would have continued had his master not interviened.

But most of the discussion with DOV is pointless anyways. Because depowered and hostless Spectre isn't the one in the thread.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Technically speaking TOAA got involved in the IG saga so,

Marvel take this. 131

Hey you're right. Marvel wins. This thread should be closed.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Hey you're right. Marvel wins. This thread should be closed.
Yah, if you put a true omnipotent in, like TOAA, then it's pretty hands down.

The funny thing is that Spectre, even depowered , confused and obviously not using his power wisely , he was still a lot more powerfull than Eternity during Day of Vengeance 😆

Originally posted by Juntai
You have to remember that he was crazy, raged, depowered, and all sorts of other variables. For a guy who could collapse and build universes he wasn't thinking big.
He did make note during the series though, that "it doesn't matter how long it takes, only that it is done.".
And he would have continued had his master not interviened.

But most of the discussion with DOV is pointless anyways. Because depowered and hostless Spectre isn't the one in the thread.

your right he isnt. the one who remained comatose after failed to kill am is in this thread.

the one in day of vengeance was lucky that he wasnt killed by an amped cap marvel.

u also do realize that maelstrom as the anomaly is involved here as well. he met thanos. i mean look at all the powerhouses involved. look at the power thanos had as he simply froze the heroes in time. what happens if he freezes all ds heroes and time and just snaps his fingers and kills them. then he lets maelstrom as the anomaly take on the spectre and the am along with celestials,galactus,eternity,chaos,order,the stranger,mistress love, and master hate while thanos sits there and watches the show. remember if thanos has all them killed that cuts off spectres powersupply along with antimonitors.

spectre,phantom stranger, and the am are going down and are going to get curbstomped.

Originally posted by Air Legend
No. Here's why.

Hilarious.

Gets offended that he was wrong and says quanchi has no credibility.

What does that equal? quanchi getting the best of Juntai haermm

👆

Originally posted by Juntai
Not even close. It's just not bothering with someone with no credibility.
If Mr Master asked me for issues or scans, I'd do my best to oblige, because I respect him. I can't say the same for everyone here. Most people aren't worth my time anymore.
Especially ones like mentioned.
i care not about ur sense of credibility or not. i could say and i will say you arent worth my time at all. you have been owned and called out and corrected by merlyn. merlyn is a debater whom i frequently disagree with but at least puts forth an argument and has scans to back up his points.

i ask now for proof from crisis on infinte earths to see why u think he could even phase thanos from ig.

thanos was extinguishing half the universe with a snap of his fingers. i mean give me something other than spectre passing out to back up his claims.

anything.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
The funny thing is that Spectre, even depowered , confused and obviously not using his power wisely , he was still a lot more powerfull than Eternity during Day of Vengeance 😆
eternity would lose to an amped cap marvel like spectre did.

i think not. eternity destroys galaxies in conflicts he doesnt tip over buildings here and there.

Originally posted by Air Legend
No. Here's why.

Hilarious.

Gets offended that he was wrong and says quanchi has no credibility.

What does that equal? quanchi getting the best of Juntai haermm

Do you realize that Juntai was correct about Spectre depowering Mxy during DoV, don't you?

So any/all statements from the Marvel-ites about Jun being wrong about that instance, make said people look like complete idiots. 🙂

Originally posted by Juntai
Ah, been a while since I read it. I remembered them running around fixing everything together.
You were correct about this as well Jun... Both Mxy and Spectre rebuilt the Universe in it's entirety:

Remember that they not only had to restructure the very fabric of reality, but conceptual places that Joker warped as well, [ie. Hell].

Originally posted by Galan007
Do you realize that Juntai was correct about Spectre depowering Mxy during DoV, don't you?

So any/all statements from the Marvel-ites about Jun being wrong about that instance, make said people look like complete idiots. 🙂

i never said he lied abiout this i merely asked for it to be proven. it didnt happen during the actual dov arc but i hear in an adventures of superman issue.

Originally posted by Galan007
You were correct about this as well Jun... Both Mxy and Spectre rebuilt the Universe in it's entirety:

Remember that they not only had to restructure the very fabric of reality, but conceptual places that Joker warped as well, [ie. Hell].

how do u get from this that the spectre helped here?

he could have just guided him couldnt he have?

Idiot even the scan says it.....haermm

Originally posted by quanchi112
i never said he lied abiout this i merely asked for it to be proven. it didnt happen during the actual dov arc but i hear in an adventures of superman issue.
First of all, that post wasn't in response to anything you said.

Secondly, the issue where Mxy was depowered is the aforementioned, "Adventures of Superman #646". 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
how do u get from this that the spectre helped here?

he could have just guided him couldnt he have?

Read the scan again please..

Mxy says:

"In the 5 hours it took US to reconstruct ALL of space time..."

There is only Mxy, Superman, and Spectre in that scan...

As bad as Supes is, I highly doubt Mxy was talking about him. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
how do u get from this that the spectre helped here?

he could have just guided him couldnt he have?

It says in the scan, that 5 hours that it took for them to rebuild all of Space Time. The joker even messed with concepts if I'm not mistaken. In the classic series of Secret Wars, Not even the Uber powerful Molecule Man could reverse the death of a concept. So those two seem mighty in that panel. I have never seen that one.

LT vs Spectre = 5/10
Thanos with IG vs Everyone else of the saga of DC = Thanos

Everyone of the saga or Marvel + LT vs Spectre = Marvel.

Oh, and Spectre suxx.

Originally posted by Galan007
First of all, that post wasn't in response to anything you said.

Secondly, the issue where Mxy was depowered is the aforementioned, "Adventures of Superman #646". 🙂

Read the scan again please..

Mxy says:

"In the 5 hours it took [b]US to reconstruct ALL of space time..."

There is only Mxy, Superman, and Spectre in that scan...

As bad as Supes is, I highly doubt Mxy was talking about him. 🙂 [/B]

they all played a role then and u cant say spectre did it alone or mxy did it alone. supes shares a piece of the pie no matter how big or small it is. so thus a shared feat with the scan u provided us all with.

Originally posted by quanchi112
they all played a role then and u cant say spectre did it alone or mxy did it alone. supes shares a piece of the pie no matter how big or small it is. so thus a shared feat with the scan u provided us all with.
You're telling me Superman helped recreate ALL space and time? 😂

Mxy is telling Superman what he and Spectre did.... If Superman helped, why would Mxy be filling him in? 🙂

Yo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he won. what are u talking about. was am dead? was am still athreat. was spectre comatose while the rest of the heroes rallied. yes spectre was comatose. its funny he was out like a scared little spectre.

Spec only job there (since its the only action he does in that whole mess) was to prevent AM from unmaking the positive matter 'verse by making the anti 'verse the ONLY realm to be created in/at Time/Space 0, and he accomplished that goal.

that he ended up in a comatose state afterward is not any indication he was put there *by* AM, and if it were so then AM wouldve mentioned it afterward. yet he doesnt, so U cant attribute that to him.

Originally posted by Astner
Still, he [B]needed help by other magicians, he could achive help from other magicians.
If you take the Living Tribunal against every single being in Marvel that´s beneath him, he will simply think them out of existance. [/B]

the same could be said for Cap in DoV, and in CoIE for Am to get to Time/Space 0.

and not every1 under him in the MU would just be "thought out of existence", or atleast he didnt seem to think so when it came to Ereshkigal.

Tazer

crazy This quanchi guy is reaching new levels of stupidity