Originally posted by Tazersince when has the spectre ever been placed in a comatose state after a tough batle. why would he do that to himself. it makes no sense. common sense tells us that the struggle against the am did this to him. am wasnt down and out while spectre was comatose. tells u a lot about who came out on top.
Yo.Spec only job there (since its the only action he does in that whole mess) was to prevent AM from unmaking the positive matter 'verse by making the anti 'verse the ONLY realm to be created in/at Time/Space 0, and he accomplished that goal.
that he ended up in a comatose state afterward is not any indication he was put there *by* AM, and if it were so then AM wouldve mentioned it afterward. yet he doesnt, so U cant attribute that to him.
the same could be said for Cap in DoV, and in CoIE for Am to get to Time/Space 0.
and not every1 under him in the MU would just be "thought out of existence", or atleast he didnt seem to think so when it came to Ereshkigal.
Tazer
lt can depower the ig and if needed be would have defeated adam warlock with them. hes capable of much more and doesnt have to call upon dr strange and fellow mages in a bind.
Yo.
Originally posted by Astner
Now, when hsa Spectre, defeated one that threaten the Multiverse?
- Right the Anti-Monitor, but he needed other sources in order to defeat him, and fact is, he didn´t even die.
[b]Spectre w/ 7 magicians > Anti-Monitor >> Spectre[/B]
both AM & Spec were being fueled by other sources since making the journey to Time/Space 0 was so taxing.
tbh U could make the case that Spec required less help since AM drained the powers of over 2 dozen heroes, but Spec only did his job by being fed from 7 sorcerors.
Tazer
Originally posted by quanchi112Spectre was still resisting the other mages when they tried using his power.... So he was comatose, but not comatose, if that makes any sense.
since when has the spectre ever been placed in a comatose state after a tough batle. why would he do that to himself. it makes no sense. common sense tells us that the struggle against the am did this to him. am wasnt down and out while spectre was comatose. tells u a lot about who came out on top.
Spectre did his job, he saved creation.... His task was accomplished.
Originally posted by Galan007yes while superman killed him. that is something the spectre failed to do. then the threat was really over.
Spectre was still resisting the other mages when they tried using his power.... So he was comatose, but not comatose, if that makes any sense.Spectre did his job, and saved creation.... His task was accomplished.
i like that he was comatose but not really becuz one could make the argument he was afraid to get back out there and just wanted to play coma victim while supes got the kill.
Spectre.Is.Stated.By.The.Presence.To.Have.Been.Stronger.Than.Anti-Monitor.
He.Is.Stated.To.Be.Omnipotent.With.Infinite.Power.During.The.Crisis.
What more exactly do you need if the Supreme Being in the DC Universe states that ? The only reason he didn't stop the Crisis is because he didn't use his power wisely , thus the reason he was depowered.
Is that too hard to understand ?
Originally posted by Erik-Lensherrso ur saying spectre has the power but is an idiot and screwed up becuz he is incompetent.
Spectre.Is.Stated.By.[B]The.Presence.To.Have.Been.Stronger.Than.Anti-Monitor.
He.Is.Stated.To.Be.Omnipotent.With.Infinite.Power.During.The.Crisis.What more exactly do you need if the Supreme Being in the DC Universe states that ? The only reason he didn't stop the Crisis is because he didn't use his power wisely , thus the reason he was depowered.
Is that too hard to understand ? [/B]
presnece should find someone else for the job then if and its a big if what you say is true?
Yo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
since when has the spectre ever been placed in a comatose state after a tough batle. why would he do that to himself. it makes no sense. common sense tells us that the struggle against the am did this to him. am wasnt down and out while spectre was comatose. tells u a lot about who came out on top.
thats not common sense, since its not even supported in the story itself, but yur own personal desire for it to be true.
did U also happen to forget that when (IIRC) Fate & Deadman went to go get him they found being held down by a force that seemed to come FROM him?
Originally posted by quanchi112
lt can depower the ig and if needed be would have defeated adam warlock with them. hes capable of much more and doesnt have to call upon dr strange and fellow mages in a bind.
LT can only render the Gems able to NOT work in conjunction, as I recall; thats not the same as "depowering" them.
Tazer
Originally posted by Galan007so after he does what he needs to do he plays coma victim. got it he doesnt talk or speak to anyone and will resist forces that try to use him to help them defeat the very enemy he was just battling in the am.
I've already stated the reasoning behind that.There's no point in saying it again. 🙂
understand ur weird logic now i think?
Originally posted by Galan007
Do you realize that Juntai was correct about Spectre depowering Mxy during DoV, don't you?So any/all statements from the Marvel-ites about Jun being wrong about that instance, make said people look like complete idiots. 🙂
Galan, please read the thread before you decide to mock me. The Spectre rebuilding reality at the end of the Emperor Joker was the statement being questioned.
As for quanchi getting the best of juntai on some points, I meant he frustrated juntai into saying unnecessary things like "you have no credibility." Of course quanchi well rarely get the best of Juntai in a straight up comic debate.
Originally posted by Air LegendNothing was meant to mock you.
Galan, please read the thread before you decide to mock me. The Spectre rebuilding reality at the end of the Emperor Joker was the statement being questioned.As for quanchi getting the best of juntai on some points, I meant he frustrated juntai into saying unnecessary things like "you have no credibility." Of course quanchi well rarely get the best of Juntai in a straight up comic debate.
I just wanted to point out that Juntai was correct about what he said, which made the people who bashed at him look utterly stupid. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
First of all, that post wasn't in response to anything you said.Secondly, the issue where Mxy was depowered is the aforementioned, "Adventures of Superman #646". 🙂
Read the scan again please..
Mxy says:
"In the 5 hours it took [b]US
to reconstruct ALL of space time..."There is only Mxy, Superman, and Spectre in that scan...
As bad as Supes is, I highly doubt Mxy was talking about him. 🙂 [/B]
Except for the fact that Mr. Mxy said "I think WE kicked the old the old record in the can!" and then Superman replies "I guess WE did. The whole universe. I still can't fathom it." 😬