Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You mean the teachings of Jesus, right? As far as I can tell, every Christian are followers of the teachings of Jesus.
That is untrue. Not everything in the Bible is what Jesus taught.
Check out my other thread The Bible- A Violent Book.
I can do one of a hundred horrible things to people, and justify that the Bible supports my actions.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
That is untrue. Not everything in the Bible is what Jesus taught.Check out my other thread [b]The Bible- A Violent Book
.I can do one of a hundred horrible things to people, and justify that the Bible supports my actions. [/B]
Yes, but not all of the Buddhist text were written my Buddha, but all people who follow those teachings (sutras) are Buddhists.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You mean the teachings of Jesus, right? As far as I can tell, every Christian are followers of the teachings of Jesus.
When I say Christ, I mean Jesus, but sure. Saying you're a Christian and acting like a Christian are two different animals. Take Ted Haggard as an prime example.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't understand, but then again, I don't know much about Ted Haggard. Can you explain?
Do you think being a Christian is merely a title one gives him/herself, or do you think being a Christian is done through actions?
Ted Haggard was the evangelical preacher preacher who was caught lying, doing drugs and having gay sex with a prostitute. Yet, he's labeled as a Christian.
Originally posted by RobtardBut if he asks for forgiveness aren’t those things washed away?
Do you think being a Christian is merely a title one gives him/herself, or do you think being a Christian is done through actions?Ted Haggard was the evangelical preacher preacher who was caught lying, doing drugs and having gay sex with a prostitute. Yet, he's labeled as a Christian.
Originally posted by Robtard
Do you think being a Christian is merely a title one gives him/herself, or do you think being a Christian is done through actions?Ted Haggard was the evangelical preacher preacher who was caught lying, doing drugs and having gay sex with a prostitute. Yet, he's labeled as a Christian.
I think it is actions, but most Christians I know act really bad, so the standard must be really low.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If one takes his child to a National Socialist meeting every Sunday, and imparts to him that it is his desire that his child be a National Socialist or Nazi, how would you characterize that behavior?
Oh so you are saying that if someones wishes is for them to be part of a certain group, that they are clearly indoctrinating them?
I'm not suggesting for one second that my Mum didn't have an influence in my "Christian" upbringing but to say she indoctrinated me into the faith is ridiculous. In fact it suggests, that to go to the lengths of accusing someone of doing that, would imply a sense of paranoia or possibly a vendetta against a particular faith ✅
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
By all means, explain how the alternative, i.e. rejecting a lifetime of social conditioning and openly defying the wishes of a parent, is a fair choice.
I'm aware of the alternative but props to you for playing the "Mum will be disappointed in you" card. I made a choice and my choice was to accept Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior. This was regardless of my mum's wishes for me ✅
Although I'm positive that if I had not become a Christian, I'd have clearly been disowned, shot and fed to the wolves ✅ 🙄
Originally posted by willRules
Oh so you are saying that if someones wishes is for them to be part of a certain group, that they are clearly indoctrinating them?I'm not suggesting for one second that my Mum didn't have an influence in my "Christian" upbringing but to say she indoctrinated me into the faith is ridiculous. In fact it suggests, that to go to the lengths of accusing someone of doing that, would imply a sense of paranoia or possibly a vendetta against a particular faith ✅
I'm aware of the alternative but props to you for playing the "Mum will be disappointed in you" card. I made a choice and my choice was to accept Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior. This was regardless of my mum's wishes for me ✅
Although I'm positive that if I had not become a Christian, I'd have clearly been disowned, shot and fed to the wolves ✅ 🙄
When I was growing up, if I had not become a Christian, I would have broken my mother's heart. That would have been worse then being shot and fed to wolves.
Originally posted by willRules
Oh so you are saying that if someones wishes is for them to be part of a certain group, that they are clearly indoctrinating them?I'm not suggesting for one second that my Mum didn't have an influence in my "Christian" upbringing but to say she indoctrinated me into the faith is ridiculous. In fact it suggests, that to go to the lengths of accusing someone of doing that, would imply a sense of paranoia or possibly a vendetta against a particular faith ✅
in·doc·tri·na·te v. To imbue with a partisan or ideological point of view.
This is indoctrination:
Originally posted by willRules
. . . the Church promises to raise the child as part of the Church community Through Sunday school and stuff) where the Child will be taught Christian teaching and the Church will promote our beliefs and make our feelings regarding life the universe and everything clear to the child as they grow up . . . Ultimately we present the case for Christianity to the child . . .
Originally posted by willRules
I'm aware of the alternative but props to you for playing the "Mum will be disappointed in you" card. I made a choice and my choice was to accept Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior. This was regardless of my mum's wishes for me ✅Although I'm positive that if I had not become a Christian, I'd have clearly been disowned, shot and fed to the wolves ✅ 🙄
This does not answer my question, i.e. how does this qualify as a fair choice considering the alternative?