Thanos w/ HOTI vs the Presence

This match is a stalemate.
I can't believe the moderators are actually warning Mr Master. He is one of the most respected people on this forum. One of them actually said he was the pompous one. That is absolutely ridiculous. He always backs up his claims with scans, bios, and the opinion of Marvel but some person always has to annoy, insult, and aggravate him. I mean if they actually banned Mr Master for even a little bit this forum would take a plunge deeper into hell. It's a good thing Mr Master joined the club and put that person on ignore.
Marvel's supreme being equals DC's supreme being. The match ends in a stalemate.

Originally posted by Air Legend
This match is a stalemate.
I can't believe the moderators are actually warning Mr Master. He is one of the most respected people on this forum. One of them actually said he was the pompous one. That is absolutely ridiculous. He always backs up his claims with scans, bios, and the opinion of Marvel but some person always has to annoy, insult, and aggravate him. I mean if they actually banned Mr Master for even a little bit this forum would take a plunge deeper into hell. It's a good thing Mr Master joined the club and put that person on ignore.
Marvel's supreme being equals DC's supreme being. The match ends in a stalemate.

What in the heck are you talking about? And Thanos is not Marvel's supreme being. So therefore by your own admission TOAA=Presence=MOM>>>>>>>>>>>>ThanosTHOTU=ELAINE=Source=Michael=Lucifer>>>>>LT=Spectre

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Again Quan...Thanos wasn't REALLY Supreme except on panel....the real TOAA could erase him in an instant. Do you understand this?

So, how can you say that Thanos with the WRITER'S power...can ABSORB a DC character? That is BS and you know it. If you continue to believe this...then, you you are actually suggesting that Marvel has creative control over DC.

Thanos was all that the TOAA(Writer) was. So tell me if you think that a Marvel writer is greater than a character in DC comics...a character which the writer did not create.

Thanos with the HOTI should not be used in fights outside of Marvel...because his power CAN NOT apply to another comic company. If you want to use a Supreme Being against DC....you would have to use the Infinity Being...since, his power was not the power of the writer's(ON PANEL).

the thread is thanos with the heart so what would u have this thread be? thanos dq'ed cuz its unfair and hes to powerful. true he is to powerful and has the feats to prove it.

come off this argument. thanos with the heart has the most impressive combat feats in all of comics. presence loses here as he stalemated the presence.

ps. thanos got the heart on panel here. quit acting like its the comic bool writer vs the presence. it isnt its thanos with the heart vs presence.

presence loses.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
The TOAA represents the WRITER of the story at Marvel comics. Since Thanos is just a comic book character, then the TOAA could erase Thanos at any moment...kill him off...retcon him into non-existence...anything the WRITER chooses to do that the EDITORIAL staff accepts can happen on PANEL.

So, with this in mind...Thanos is just a drawing on a piece of paper to the TOAA(the WRITER). The writer can crumble the paper up and throw it in the trash. So, can the TOAA take away Thanos' power? Yes, if the WRITER(TOAA) writes it in a comic.

ps sorry but the presence isnt supreme.

Q you do know TOAA is a comic book character right and is over the MU just like The Presence in DC?? It clearly shows F4 seeing God as they wanted to see him. It just like when the Presence kept changing while talking to Elaine, God will always make his creations comfortable while talking to him. Thanos isn't going to win, and you rate him to high vs God. He would like as well vs MoM from Image. Enough of the anti-DC stuff please, its old and been old for months now. 😬

The Presence takes the heart away from Thanos and tells him to go away.

Originally posted by kevdude
Q you do know TOAA is a comic book character right and is over the MU just like The Presence in DC?? It clearly shows F4 seeing God as they wanted to see him. It just like when the Presence kept changing while talking to Elaine, God will always make his creations comfortable while talking to him. Thanos isn't going to win, and you rate him to high vs God. He would like as well vs MoM from Image. Enough of the anti-DC stuff please, its old and been old for months now. 😬

1 thanos has on panel feats stating he almighty and proving it with ease.

2 geb stalemated the presence while thanos defeated all other comers at once.

3 if geb had some uber help i bet he could have won. if they are so even and someone of significant power helped one that being would break the tie.

i like dc but i go with facts. presence isnt supreme.

sorry.

You do understand The Presence/yhwh is everything while TGEB is nothing at all right?? The Heart wouldn't even work on TGEB since there is nothing the Heart could do to it. The Heart is an object making Thanos supreme and able to fix the MU. But did Thanos ever literally talk to TOAA?? No, God must have left the MU and watched everything from the outside. Even with all that power Thanos had he was still a created being, and the Beast is not an object it is Gods only opposite, nothing will stop it unless TOAA showed up and stalemated it. I didn't think all that needed to be said but I guess it did....

How would you rate TOAA to Thanos with the Heart??
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Originally posted by kevdude
You do understand The Presence/yhwh is everything while TGEB is nothing at all right?? The Heart wouldn't even work on TGEB since there is nothing the Heart could do to it. The Heart is an object making Thanos supreme and able to fix the MU. But did Thanos ever literally talk to TOAA?? No, God must have left the MU and watched everything from the outside. Even with all that power Thanos had he was still a created being, and the Beast is not an object it is Gods only opposite, nothing will stop it unless TOAA showed up and stalemated it. I didn't think all that needed to be said but I guess it did....

How would you rate TOAA to Thanos with the Heart??
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Y do you bother.

Originally posted by kevdude
You do understand The Presence/yhwh is everything while TGEB is nothing at all right?? The Heart wouldn't even work on TGEB since there is nothing the Heart could do to it. The Heart is an object making Thanos supreme and able to fix the MU. But did Thanos ever literally talk to TOAA?? No, God must have left the MU and watched everything from the outside. Even with all that power Thanos had he was still a created being, and the Beast is not an object it is Gods only opposite, nothing will stop it unless TOAA showed up and stalemated it. I didn't think all that needed to be said but I guess it did....

How would you rate TOAA to Thanos with the Heart??
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TOAA shouldnt be considered becuz hes outside the comic universe i only count the beings on panel who have an effect. on panel thanos was supreme.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Y do you bother.

Just trying to open his mind to something else then always Thanos wins. But i'm done trying to convince him when it's clear as day. We all have our fav characters. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
come on ur really pushing for this but im not buying it. thanos was supreme on panel. bottom line. he was supreme.

the thread is thanos with the heart so what would u have this thread be? thanos dq'ed cuz its unfair and hes to powerful. true he is to powerful and has the feats to prove it.

come off this argument. thanos with the heart has the most impressive combat feats in all of comics. presence loses here as he stalemated the presence.

ps. thanos got the heart on panel here. quit acting like its the comic bool writer vs the presence. it isnt its thanos with the heart vs presence.

presence loses.

you didn't read a damn thing I typed, did you? Re-read my post. Did I say that Thanos was Supreme ON PANEL...why YES I DID.

DID I say that I wanted Thanos removed from this thread because he was too powerful....hmmm...NO, I DID NOT. I said that the HOTI could not work on a DC character....because Marvel does not have creative control over DC characters...hence...the HOTI could NOT absorb a DC character.

Your "FEAT" argument is inconsequential to this argument. Just because Thanos ABSORBED most of the ABSTRACTS does not mean that he is more powerful than the Presence...and you have no proof to say that Thanos could...you only have your opinion...which you are welcome to.

Lastly, do you know what the HOTI is? What does the HOTI represent? It represents the power of the TOAA, eh? Tell me if I'm wrong. The TOAA is the writer, eh? So, wouldn't that have Thanos using the power of the WRITER? The Marvel writer nonetheless.

Can the power of the writer(creative team) at Marvel erase a DC character? Nah...I thought not. The HOTI can not erase a DC character

P.S....Now, I know that certain powers are to be considered valid in the vs. forum. The Speed Force doesn't exist in Marvel...but, if Flash is fighting in Marvel...he is allowed to use it. The OE could not realistically work against a Marvel character..who is not connected to the Source...but in the vs. forum...it is allowed.

I understand this...however...this is one instance where this rule can't be followed because it wouldn't make sense. To say that the HOTI can erase or absorb a DC being means that Marvel could have creative control over a DC character. The power of Marvel's TOAA CAN NOT work against a DC opponent...it is preposterous to think so. How can the HOTI absorb something that it did not create? THE TOAA created..or drew EVERY Marvel character to ever appear on PANEL...thus the TOAA has the sole power to erase its own creation. Can the HOTI erase or absorb Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, or even little 'ol Alfred? Hell No...the TOAA(HOTI) did not create the character....so, how in the hell could the TOAA(HOTI) erase him....without a big ass lawsuit of course...lol.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
you didn't read a damn thing I typed, did you? Re-read my post. Did I say that Thanos was Supreme ON PANEL...why YES I DID.

DID I say that I wanted Thanos removed from this thread because he was too powerful....hmmm...NO, I DID NOT. I said that the HOTI could not work on a DC character....because Marvel does not have creative control over DC characters...hence...the HOTI could NOT absorb a DC character.

Your "FEAT" argument is inconsequential to this argument. Just because Thanos ABSORBED most of the ABSTRACTS does not mean that he is more powerful than the Presence...and you have no proof to say that Thanos could...you only have your opinion...which you are welcome to.

Lastly, do you know what the HOTI is? What does the HOTI represent? It represents the power of the TOAA, eh? Tell me if I'm wrong. The TOAA is the writer, eh? So, wouldn't that have Thanos using the power of the WRITER? The Marvel writer nonetheless.

Can the power of the writer(creative team) at Marvel erase a DC character? Nah...I thought not. The HOTI can not erase a DC character

P.S....Now, I know that certain powers are to be considered valid in the vs. forum. The Speed Force doesn't exist in Marvel...but, if Flash is fighting in Marvel...he is allowed to use it. The OE could not realistically work against a Marvel character..who is not connected to the Source...but in the vs. forum...it is allowed.

I understand this...however...this is one instance where this rule can't be followed because it wouldn't make sense. To say that the HOTI can erase or absorb a DC being means that Marvel could have creative control over a DC character. The power of Marvel's TOAA CAN NOT work against a DC opponent...it is preposterous to think so. How can the HOTI absorb something that it did not create? THE TOAA created..or drew EVERY Marvel character to ever appear on PANEL...thus the TOAA has the sole power to erase its own creation. Can the HOTI erase or absorb Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, or even little 'ol Alfred? Hell No...the TOAA(HOTI) did not create the character....so, how in the hell could the TOAA(HOTI) erase him....without a big ass lawsuit of course...lol.

Ofcourse Thanos w HOTI is a freaking powerhouse, but I still think the Presense would win.

The Presense is, has always been, and always will be the undisputed supereme entity/force of DC/Vertigo.

I would personally put the Presence on par with MoM-Mother of Creation and TOAA.

Thanos w HOTI did not = TOAA

The Presence, is neither good or bad, as far as I can see, it encompasses all that exists. And I've even read that the Great Evil Beast is part of the Presence-its other half, but still one half of the same entity/being.

Now...

If you would have pitted Thanos w HOTI against Yahweh (from Vertigo), I can see some leeway, since Yahweh is a personification of power like Thanos w HOTI would have been.

From what I've gathered, Yahweh is not the fullness of the Presence, but that is another argument all together.

thanos was NOT supreme. this has already been dealt with. for him to be supreme he would have had power over ALL marvel. that mean the SINGULAR marvel multiverse+ the void+ the beyond realm+death/entropy/apiphany and other anti existing abstracts.

he only had the power to recreate a multiverse.

also, wide extrapolations based on PIS feats of LT to back up HOTU>LT>OMNIVERSE/megaverse are silly as they are PIS feats and happened much later.

that mean the SINGULAR marvel multiverse+ the void+ the beyond realm+death/entropy/apiphany and other anti existing abstracts.

You've been proven wrong on this statement several times now. Marvel is MUCh more than one multiverse.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
thanos was NOT supreme. this has already been dealt with. for him to be supreme he would have had power over ALL marvel. that mean the SINGULAR marvel multiverse+ the void+ the beyond realm+death/entropy/apiphany and other anti existing abstracts.

he only had the power to recreate a multiverse.

also, wide extrapolations based on PIS feats of LT to back up HOTU>LT>OMNIVERSE/megaverse are silly as they are PIS feats and happened much later.

Thanos w HOTI still absorbed LT, who is beyond multiversal in power.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
[b]The Presense is, has always been, and always will be the undisputed supereme entity/force of DC/Vertigo. [/B]

Originally posted by leonheartmm
thanos was NOT supreme. this has already been dealt with. for him to be supreme he would have had power over ALL marvel. that mean the SINGULAR marvel multiverse+ the void+ the beyond realm+death/entropy/apiphany and other anti existing abstracts.

he only had the power to recreate a multiverse.

also, wide extrapolations based on PIS feats of LT to back up HOTU>LT>OMNIVERSE/megaverse are silly as they are PIS feats and happened much later.

keep calling everything pis that u dont like.

Hey this is the official thread guys 313

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