Originally posted by KMC_Drifterplease come off this weak old argument. quit trying to change the rules. its not thanos and the writer its thanos as supreme being and all the power he had. sorry but presence hasnt even been shown with feats i know he can do them but ur acting like we dq thanos for his feats.
you didn't read a damn thing I typed, did you? Re-read my post. Did I say that Thanos was Supreme ON PANEL...why YES I DID.DID I say that I wanted Thanos removed from this thread because he was too powerful....hmmm...NO, I DID NOT. I said that the HOTI could not work on a DC character....because Marvel does not have creative control over DC characters...hence...the HOTI could NOT absorb a DC character.
Your "FEAT" argument is inconsequential to this argument. Just because Thanos ABSORBED most of the ABSTRACTS does not mean that he is more powerful than the Presence...and you have no proof to say that Thanos could...you only have your opinion...which you are welcome to.
Lastly, do you know what the HOTI is? What does the HOTI represent? It represents the power of the TOAA, eh? Tell me if I'm wrong. The TOAA is the writer, eh? So, wouldn't that have Thanos using the power of the WRITER? The Marvel writer nonetheless.
Can the power of the writer(creative team) at Marvel erase a DC character? Nah...I thought not. The HOTI can not erase a DC character
P.S....Now, I know that certain powers are to be considered valid in the vs. forum. The Speed Force doesn't exist in Marvel...but, if Flash is fighting in Marvel...he is allowed to use it. The OE could not realistically work against a Marvel character..who is not connected to the Source...but in the vs. forum...it is allowed.
I understand this...however...this is one instance where this rule can't be followed because it wouldn't make sense. To say that the HOTI can erase or absorb a DC being means that Marvel could have creative control over a DC character. The power of Marvel's TOAA CAN NOT work against a DC opponent...it is preposterous to think so. How can the HOTI absorb something that it did not create? THE TOAA created..or drew EVERY Marvel character to ever appear on PANEL...thus the TOAA has the sole power to erase its own creation. Can the HOTI erase or absorb Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, or even little 'ol Alfred? Hell No...the TOAA(HOTI) did not create the character....so, how in the hell could the TOAA(HOTI) erase him....without a big ass lawsuit of course...lol.
funny guy. sorry but the geb screwed up supremacy over there. thanos wins this im afraid my good buddy.
Guys this is a stalemate.
There have been arguments that Thanos was supreme for a short time. That is inconsequential because the match is between the Presence and Thanos when he was supreme. Hell if you want to use that argument I could say something of similar nature- Elaine took the Presence's place so Thanos wins.
Also people are claiming that the Presence=TOAA blah blah blah. That is not true. The Presence ain't a writer, he gets drawn and written by "external forces" aka the artists and writers. TOAA for the Presence is Grant Morrison who created the Presence (by drawing and writing him of course).
By the dictionary definition of supreme, Thanos was more "supreme" (that doesn't make sense but people say that the Presence is supreme so I have to say it this way) because within the comic book world Thanos was Almighty and had no equal while the Presence stalemated the GEB showing that the Presence had an equal.
All of this rediculous DC hating is just absurd. Carried on by a bunch of moronic simpletons who dont' know jack about either company. The only marvel fans who even have a clue are Mr. Master and King Kandy. All others fail at life. Everyone else is pretty balanced so this statement does not concern the more balanced posters.
Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos absorbed all time and space. sorry but presence stalemated geb which means hes not supreme but has an equal. consider the opresence the yin and the geb the yang.
The Presence may have an equal in the GEB, but Thanos w HOTI has a superior in the TOAA. Sorry bro, Presence is supreme in regard to Thanos w HOTI.