Thanos w/ HOTI vs the Presence

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I always have. Just like the presence shown in DC was the Editor mike carlin and the writer grant morrison.

About that Mike Carlin deal, I don't think there is any proof that he was the Presence. I do agree that the scan I saw showed he was the author of the story and it depicted him as supreme. If you can prove to me with evidence (like DC bios or statements) that the Mike Carlin avatar was indeed the Presence, then I'll concede that the Presence represents the artists and writers of DC. However as of now I'm going with the "external forces" representing the writers and the Presence just a supreme comic book character of DC.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Well jeez if you just told me that instead of saying Thanos wasn't supreme within the comic world blah blah blah, I wouldn't have made fun of you.

About that Mike Carlin deal, I don't think there is any proof that he was the Presence. I do agree that the scan I saw showed he was the author of the story and it depicted him as supreme. If you can prove to me with evidence (like DC bios or statements) that the Mike Carlin avatar was indeed the Presence, then I'll concede that the Presence represents the artists and writers of DC. However as of now I'm going with the "external forces" representing the writers and the Presence just a supreme comic book character of DC.

Mike Carlin being Supreme over Mxy is all the proof I need. Anyway, DC cosmos dont' work like marvel's So a bio wont do much good. And I still didn't think Thanos was supreme within the omniverse. How can one be surpreme if one isn't in control?

Originally posted by Air Legend
Well jeez if you just told me that instead of saying Thanos wasn't supreme within the comic world blah blah blah, I wouldn't have made fun of you.

About that Mike Carlin deal, I don't think there is any proof that he was the Presence. I do agree that the scan I saw showed he was the author of the story and it depicted him as supreme. If you can prove to me with evidence (like DC bios or statements) that the Mike Carlin avatar was indeed the Presence, then I'll concede that the Presence represents the artists and writers of DC. However as of now I'm going with the "external forces" representing the writers and the Presence just a supreme comic book character of DC.

Originally posted by quanchi112
the presence stalemated the geb. u saying mike carlin and morrison stalemated geb. no we can only argue whats in the comic. not writers and such.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mike Carlin being Supreme over Mxy is all the proof I need. Anyway, DC cosmos dont' work like marvel's So a bio wont do much good. And I still didn't think Thanos was supreme within the omniverse. How can one be surpreme if one isn't in control?

the presence with the geb combined now there u have a supreme being. but i break every entity down different and since they were both separate i dont consider the presence with geb. to break down dc i would always keep them separate becuz they are two different forces who combined but in these forums i think of them as separate beings.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Thanos or any comic book character can't be in control when they are being drawn by real life people (TOAA).

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And Yet thanos still wasn't supreme even on panel. He admitted to being used. Something the presence would never say on panel. the closest we have to it, is yeweh, who is a lessor god than the presence saying he was shaped by outside forces.

presence couldnt defeat the geb. thanos defeated all with ease.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And Yet thanos still wasn't supreme even on panel. He admitted to being used. Something the presence would never say on panel. the closest we have to it, is yeweh, who is a lessor god than the presence saying he was shaped by outside forces.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Yes he was being used by TOAA aka Jim Starlin, don't you get it? He was supreme on panel but was being used by real world artists and writers.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Yes he was being used by TOAA aka Jim Starlin, don't you get it? He was supreme on panel but was being used by real world artists and writers.

He wasn't supreme on panel. He didn't have Omnicience nor did he have omnipresence. He was only as powerful as the reality he bonded with. Adam and Deathwere outside of that Reality. As on panel, the writers didn't give him TOTAL power.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He wasn't supreme on panel. He didn't have Omnicience nor did he have omnipresence. He was only as powerful as the reality he bonded with. Adam and Deathwere outside of that Reality. As on panel, the writers didn't give him TOTAL power.

it was stated on panel that he was supreme and eternityknew he was and didnt argue with him. he knew. its just u who doesnt know.

presence couldnt defeat the geb. means he failed and isnt supreme now doesnt it.

now who in marvel universe on panel could defeat thanos iwth the heart. who? if thanos isnt supreme like u say u should have a marvel character in mind now shouldnt u? lets hear it who is it?

Originally posted by quanchi112
yes they did and even said it. he was almighty, i mean come on who could have beat him thanos would have absorbed all if he wanted to. he didnt.

it was stated on panel that he was supreme and eternityknew he was and didnt argue with him. he knew. its just u who doesnt know.

presence couldnt defeat the geb. means he failed and isnt supreme now doesnt it.

now who in marvel universe on panel could defeat thanos iwth the heart. who? if thanos isnt supreme like u say u should have a marvel character in mind now shouldnt u? lets hear it who is it?

I'm not bothering with you any more. Thanos could have should have would have if he wanted to. he didn't. That is a fact. eternity not challenging Thanos doesn't really mean jack. becuz Thanos was never all that TOAA was. He never became an actual writer, and he never controlled the story. Thanos lied. He was never God. The presence was omnipotent, and so was the GEB. It's totally within the power of the DC writers to give thier company TWO omnipotent beings. The beyonder did something similiar, giving half his power to someone else if I remember correctly. Both were still what? more powerful than everyone else. What do you get when you divide A Truly Omnipotent Being into Two? You get Two omnipotent beings.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm not bothering with you any more. Thanos could have should have would have if he wanted to. he didn't. That is a fact. eternity not challenging Thanos doesn't really mean jack. becuz Thanos was never all that TOAA was. He never became an actual writer, and he never controlled the story. Thanos lied. He was never God. The presence was omnipotent, and so was the GEB. It's totally within the power of the DC writers to give thier company TWO omnipotent beings. The beyonder did something similiar, giving half his power to someone else if I remember correctly. Both were still what? more powerful than everyone else. What do you get when you divide A Truly Omnipotent Being into Two? You get Two omnipotent beings.

ps u dodge my question,why?

question is since u claim thanos wasnt supreme who in marvel could have defeated him with the heart. who?

Originally posted by quanchi112
ok but dc didnt have one supreme being who could beat everyone like nothing. like thanos did , thanos was supreme. and u proved it as u didnt answer my question and dodged it. i knew u would as i have pawned u again. on panel thanos was god and was supreme. leave the writers out of this. thanos was supreme and could defeat anyone else with ease while the presence couldnt for the life of him defeat the geb no matter how hard the presence tried.

ps u dodge my question,why?

question is since u claim thanos wasnt supreme who in marvel could have defeated him with the heart. who?

The collaborator could have easily come up with a match for Thanos. And your logic fails. The presence was stated on panel as supreme and so was the GEB. your entire argument fails due to DC having the authority to create TWo surpreme beings.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The collaborator could have easily come up with a match for Thanos. And your logic fails. The presence was stated on panel as supreme and so was the GEB. your entire argument fails due to DC having the authority to create TWo surpreme beings.

is it ur own?

u cant have two supreme beings.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The collaborator could have easily come up with a match for Thanos. And your logic fails. The presence was stated on panel as supreme and so was the GEB. your entire argument fails due to DC having the authority to create TWo surpreme beings.

if thanos wasnt supreme who was in amrvel on panel. which being and when. what issues of what comics?

Originally posted by quanchi112
if ur supreme u have no equals. wow two supreme beings. in the other thread u changed the definition of the word everything. what dictionary are u looking at?

is it ur own?

u cant have two supreme beings.

Um No. I said that you cannot be Omnipotent if someone else can BEAT you. learn how to read. GEB couldn't be beaten thus he was omnipotent. The presence couldn't be beaten, thus he was also omnipotent. It would be just like when the brothers fought, they couldnt' beat each other. even tho they were in the same story. both omnipotent. FAIL.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He never became an actual writer, and he never controlled the story. Thanos lied. He was never God. The presence was omnipotent, and so was the GEB. It's totally within the power of the DC writers to give thier company TWO omnipotent beings. The beyonder did something similiar, giving half his power to someone else if I remember correctly. Both were still what? more powerful than everyone else. What do you get when you divide A Truly Omnipotent Being into Two? You get Two omnipotent beings.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Right and that's what this comes down to- 2 omnipotent beings duking it out. It ends with a stalemate because they were both written as supreme by their company writers.
Thanos admitted to being tricked by the writers and the Presence (after fusing with the GEB) admitted to being created by the writers aka "external forces".