Thanos w/ HOTI vs the Presence

Started by fangirl10149 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
You cant have two supreme beings. The whole notion of being supreme is that you have no equals.

Prove that the presence is different. I have seen him referred to as the presence in vertigo. Prove it or drop it.

Quan ELAINE is the God of vertigo. now how in the **** is she ruling vertigo and the presence ruling dc and you are saying they are one and the same?

And yes you can have two supreme beings. If DC says so. It's thier comic. They can do what they want.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Quan ELAINE is the God of vertigo. now how in the **** is she ruling vertigo and the presence ruling dc and you are saying they are one and the same?

And yes you can have two supreme beings. If DC says so. It's thier comic. They can do what they want.

So vertig and dc are different I guess according to you.

Thanos has no equals. Lt was noting to him while in vertigo you have two equal beings thus neither is supreme.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So vertig and dc are different I guess according to you.

Thanos has no equals. Lt was noting to him while in vertigo you have two equal beings thus neither is supreme.

They are DIFFERENT MULTIVERSES. BUT Vertigo is with in the wrealm of DC. As DC owns vertigo. The characters overlap and criss cross. Clearly The Presence is the ruler of everything. While Elaine is the ruler of Vertigo. No different than spawn who rules his reality, but MOM is the ruler of everything.

Originally posted by fangirl101
They are DIFFERENT MULTIVERSES. BUT Vertigo is with in the wrealm of DC. As DC owns vertigo. The characters overlap and criss cross. Clearly The Presence is the ruler of everything. While Elaine is the ruler of Vertigo. No different than spawn who rules his reality, but MOM is the ruler of everything.
Nah. you said elaine rules vertigo which now you back out of and say that the presence now rules. You change your mind from post to post and have had zero scans backing up your theories.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah. you said elaine rules vertigo which now you back out of and say that the presence now rules. You change your mind from post to post and have had zero scans backing up your theories.

Please, QUAN. STOP. NOW.

I rule my house. It's mine. My city council man rules the ward. The mayor rules the city. the governor rules the state. the president the country. Nato governs world policy. Get my drift. Now go take a back seat and stop trying to drive.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The term omnipotent is thrown around loosely. You know how many beings have been described as omnipotent.

Yeah, but we aren't talking about other being we are talking about the Presence.

What you were saying earlier Quan about on panel feats, and how Thanos has more. You are right. However, I think that is the exact reasons why Thanos would lose this battle. The presence doesn't need on panel feats to prove that it's supreme. It doesn't need to reach out and affect everything using its own physical form, it is EVERYTHING already including Thanos and the HOTU.

Originally posted by deadspeak25
What you were saying earlier Quan about on panel feats, and how Thanos has more. You are right. However, I think that is the exact reasons why Thanos would lose this battle. The presence doesn't need on panel feats to prove that it's supreme. It doesn't need to reach out and affect everything using its own physical form, it is EVERYTHING already including Thanos and the HOTU.

That's not true. Are you just going by what wiki says pertaining to the Presence?

Originally posted by Unnatural-POWER
I can't believe we now need prove Supreme beings are Supreme in
order to have them classified as such.
Isn't the comics we all read evidence enough of their creations?

This is ridiculous!


Supreme and all-powerful are two different things. And when we see the supreme being limited that should leave a question mark, now shouldn't it?

Originally posted by deadspeak25

The presence doesn't need on panel feats to prove that it's supreme.

It doesn't need to reach out and affect everything using its own physical form,

it is EVERYTHING already including Thanos and the HOTU.


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Sorry friend, but the Presence isn't even Aunt May.

I liked my take here:

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Thanos became everything the Almighty would be in the Omniverse.

But let's not forget,

the Omniverse is a drawing on a piece of paper to God/Toaa.

So basically God/Toaa created and drew a story where Thanos had his power.

By drawing it on paper, it bacame Reality in the Omniverse.

So essentially Thanos became the manifestation of God/Toaa in the Omniverse.

It's like Jesus sortaspeak I guess (which is supposed to be God in the flesh)

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Originally posted by Air Legend
That's not true. Are you just going by what wiki says pertaining to the Presence?

No. I'm simply going by my beliefs on what an all-powerful being is, but I'll look it up in wiki if you want me to.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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Sorry friend, but the Presence isn't even Aunt May.

LOL no worries, I think I went a little overboard on that one. I'll concede that you are right in that point. Clarify one thing for me as I'm a little fuzzy, if the HOTU makes you the supreme being. . .if it is basically the supreme beings power. Who created it, and what is the point of the creation?

Someone fill me in....

How does using the Marvel Handbook proves that The Presence (a character from DC) is less powerful than Thanos?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Please, QUAN. STOP. NOW.

I rule my house. It's mine. My city council man rules the ward. The mayor rules the city. the governor rules the state. the president the country. Nato governs world policy. Get my drift. Now go take a back seat and stop trying to drive.

We are comparing to two houses or two cities against each other here then.

If we went by this logic we couldnt ever debate marvel vs dc because they both live in separate houses.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Someone fill me in....

How does using the Marvel Handbook proves that The Presence (a character from DC) is less powerful than Thanos?


You've got it wrong. Vertigo proves that the Presence is less powerful.

Originally posted by deadspeak25
Yeah, but we aren't talking about other being we are talking about the Presence.
Who has zero feats to his credit. I have already gone over in detail who this is going down when I havent seen the presence do one thing to defend.

Originally posted by Astner
You've got it wrong. Vertigo proves that the Presence is less powerful.
From the scans I have seen you are correct 100 percent.

Originally posted by deadspeak25
What you were saying earlier Quan about on panel feats, and how Thanos has more. You are right. However, I think that is the exact reasons why Thanos would lose this battle. The presence doesn't need on panel feats to prove that it's supreme. It doesn't need to reach out and affect everything using its own physical form, it is EVERYTHING already including Thanos and the HOTU.
Incorrect all together. The presence isnt Thanos or the hotu its the dc universe. Thanos absorbs it as seen on panel. Just like when Cronus grabbed his power the presence would do nothing.

The Presence