Classic ION Vs Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet

Started by Erik-Lensherr22 pages

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is a lie.

Every single point you brought up, was addressed.

Another lie.

Dude, save the sanctimonious waffle, and stick to debating.

You would have to Read a Comic book if you wanna copycat my moves.

You mean countering with smilies and practically ignoring some statements and interpreting them in the wrong ways without any sort of evidence isn't called ignoring and I'm lying ? 😆

As for the crossover being canon just because the handbook and another site says that the Ultraverse exists in the Marvel Omniverse , I don't really see how that suits your point . It still counts as an intercompany crossover , as seen from both the cover from the crossover , aswell as the fact that the comic itself is stated to be published by Malibu Comics . You bring up the fact that the characters are owned by Marvel ? That's rather logical since it bought the company and everything in it , but that doesn't make it canon to the Marvel comics .

Bottom line is that it's stated that Ultraforce is sold by the Malibu Comics while the ones from Marvel are sold by Marvel Comics , thus counting as an intercompany crossover as being obviously shown from the cover of the crossover where both are present . When you have on panel proof where it's stated that it's canon then we'll talk .

And after reading your counter arguments of my points , I've decided that I'm done with you here .
You haven't properly adressed either of my points , by either repeating what you've just said or just flat out ignoring by either telling me to "read comics" or "I trust Marvel" . I've proven my points and you obviously can't counter them so I'm just going to stop this discussion .

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
You mean countering with smilies and practically ignoring some statements and interpreting them in the wrong ways without any sort of evidence isn't called ignoring and I'm lying ? 😆

As for the crossover being canon just because the handbook and another site says that the Ultraverse exists in the Marvel Omniverse , I don't really see how that suits your point . It still counts as an intercompany crossover , as seen from both the cover from the crossover , aswell as the fact that the comic itself is stated to be published by Malibu Comics . You bring up the fact that the characters are owned by Marvel ? That's rather logical since it bought the company and everything in it , but that doesn't make it canon to the Marvel comics .

Bottom line is that it's stated that Ultraforce is sold by the Malibu Comics while the ones from Marvel are sold by Marvel Comics , thus counting as an intercompany crossover as being obviously shown from the cover of the crossover where both are present . When you have on panel proof where it's stated that it's canon then we'll talk .

And after reading your counter arguments of my points , I've decided that I'm done with you here .
[B]You haven't properly adressed either of my points , by either repeating what you've just said or just flat out ignoring by either telling me to "read comics" or "I trust Marvel" . I've proven my points and you obviously can't counter them so I'm just going to stop this discussion .
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thanos with the ig was more versatile than ion at the height of his powers. he was simply the master of to much to lose to ion at all.
thanos fought against stiffer competition as well.
thanos for the win.

Originally posted by quanchi112
come on everyone just let it go and focus on comic books. thats why we are all here. put the egos aside and stay on topic. everyone agrees ion gets slaughtered anyways.

Not quite - 2 sets of unlimited power.

1 guy has it in him to lose subsconsciously (on panel.)

The other actually used his power wisely, and never lost it.

Ion wins.

Originally posted by Avlon
Not quite - 2 sets of unlimited power.

1 guy has it in him to lose subsconsciously (on panel.)

The other actually used his power wisely, and never lost it.

Ion wins.

Not Quite

IMO thanos subconsiously looses at his ultimate goal, which is supreme godlike state which he rules all, in a versus match i dont think so, i dont think it matters here

On his way to collect the Infinity gems..success
His bid to replace eternity...success
His venture to get the HOTU...success
His becoming a supreme power with the HOTU....success

Now keeping the stature or level of power is his undoing

Getting past Ion...success

Thanos/IG is master of ....time, space, mind ,reality, power, soul
I think without a doubt he will defeat ION classic or not, and it might not be a view liked in this thread,but i say easy win,very easy

Thanos with IG pretty easy...I dont think ion could own Galactus, Stranger, Order, Chaos, Chronos, Love, Hate, Ziran, Mephisto, Death and TOAA and then beat Eternity the way Thanos did, in fact I dont think he could beat that group at all.

Originally posted by starlock
Not Quite

IMO thanos subconsiously looses at his ultimate goal, which is supreme godlike state which he rules all, in a versus match i dont think so, i dont think it matters here

On his way to collect the Infinity gems..success
His bid to replace eternity...success
His venture to get the HOTU...success
His becoming a supreme power with the HOTU....success

Now keeping the stature or level of power is his undoing

Getting past Ion...success

Thanos/IG is master of ....time, space, mind ,reality, power, soul
I think without a doubt he will defeat ION classic or not, and it might not be a view liked in this thread,but i say easy win,very easy

HOTU takes place after IG...so that's not in this debate.

Thanos LOST with the IG because that is what he subconsciously wanted. We can't ignore that because it's convenient.

The original Ion HAD no weaknesses either. He had unlimited power and could do anything he wanted.

While Thanos lost the IG because he was foolish...Ion willingly gave up his power...he used his power a lot more wisely.

The original Ion was the right hand of god.

Ion ftw.

Originally posted by norrinradd43
Thanos with IG pretty easy...I dont think ion could own Galactus, Stranger, Order, Chaos, Chronos, Love, Hate, Ziran, Mephisto, Death and TOAA and then beat Eternity the way Thanos did, in fact I dont think he could beat that group at all.

That group would be fodder to ION as well.

Unless you were talking about the current ION...there is a HUGE difference between the 2.

Originally posted by norrinradd43
Thanos with IG pretty easy...I dont think ion could own Galactus, Stranger, Order, Chaos, Chronos, Love, Hate, Ziran, Mephisto, Death and TOAA and then beat Eternity the way Thanos did, in fact I dont think he could beat that group at all.

Thanos w/ the IG didn't defeat TOAA.

Originally posted by Avlon
Not quite - 2 sets of unlimited power.

1 guy has it in him to lose subsconsciously (on panel.)

The other actually used his power wisely, and never lost it.

Ion wins.

does ion have complete mastery over time,reality,space,power,soul,and mind like thanos did? dont think so. he never lost it to anyone on panel. so he definitely defeats ion.

Originally posted by Avlon
HOTU takes place after IG...so that's not in this debate.

Thanos LOST with the IG because that is what he subconsciously wanted. We can't ignore that because it's convenient.

The original Ion HAD no weaknesses either. He had unlimited power and could do anything he wanted.

While Thanos lost the IG because he was foolish...Ion willingly gave up his power...he used his power a lot more wisely.

The original Ion was the right hand of god.

Ion ftw.

he never lost in combat so ur point is moot. he lost it after all the opposition was soundly defeated. ion never had the combat feats that thanos had. thanos wins this and easily.

Originally posted by Avlon
That group would be fodder to ION as well.

Unless you were talking about the current ION...there is a HUGE difference between the 2.

this group would make ion falter and lose. this group of abstracts and what not would tear into him.

ion would lose to these beings for sure imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
this group would make ion falter and lose. this group of abstracts and what not would tear into him.

ion would lose to these beings for sure imo.


Off course Ion would lose to teh abztractzzzzzzz!!!!11111

Originally posted by starlock

Thanos/IG is master of ....time, space, mind,reality, power,


So is Ion....ermm

Originally posted by Estacado
So is Ion....ermm

Are you leaving out soul on purpose?

I wish i could say Ion would win,since he is one of my favorites, but sorry, i cant see it at all...nope not at all

Originally posted by batdude123
Thanos w/ the IG didn't defeat TOAA.

Um yeah he did, he's talking about TOAA the celestial.

Originally posted by starlock
Are you leaving out soul on purpose?

I wish i could say Ion would win,since he is one of my favorites, but sorry, i cant see it at all...nope not at all


I'm not saying that Ion wins...
I left out soul on purpose though he could possibly be a "master" of souls as well since Kilowog who had a tiny fraction of Kyle's powers had the power to absorbs billions of Souls.

Edit:A Gl can do almost anything that the IG can only on lower scale but if you multipy a Gl's power by a few hundred thousand.......

Originally posted by Avlon
Thanos LOST with the IG because that is what he subconsciously wanted.

That's true.

Originally posted by Avlon
We can't ignore that because it's convenient.

But he stomped everyone before giving up his power.

Originally posted by Avlon
The original Ion HAD no weaknesses either.

Neither did Thanos.

We can't say that Thanos will now always lose
because he gives up his power After he defeats everyone.

He would have to first stomp Ion before giving up his power. (that's how it works)

Originally posted by Avlon
He had unlimited power and could do anything he wanted.

With the exception of defeating the LT, so could Thanos.

Originally posted by Avlon
While Thanos lost the IG because he was foolish

Cause he wanted to.

Apparently Thanos gets bored once he stomps everyone.

Originally posted by Avlon
Ion willingly gave up his power

So did Thanos.

Originally posted by Avlon
The original Ion was the right hand of god.

Thanos became the 616 Universe = Eternity's heart (core of the Omniverse)

Only the LT has been proven to be above the IG. (on panel & in the bios)

Originally posted by Avlon
Ion ftw.

No comment.

Originally posted by Estacado
Edit:A Gl can do almost anything that the IG can only on lower scale but if you multipy a Gl's power by a few hundred thousand.......

If he still doesn't have the power to obliterate all realities in DC,
it wouldn't make a difference I think.

Oh and, no comment on who wins. 🙂

Originally posted by starlock
IMO thanos subconsiously looses at his ultimate goal,

which is supreme godlike state which he rules all

👆 That's not an opinion, that a fact.

Originally posted by starlock
On his way to collect the Infinity gems..success
His bid to replace eternity...success
His venture to get the HOTU...success
His becoming a supreme power with the HOTU....success

Now keeping the stature or level of power is his undoing

😎