Heroes

Originally posted by The Pict
He was stabbed? I thought that was just Isaac's comic showing how he was to be killed, not how he did. Remember he said to Sylar he knew he was going to die but not before he'd shown "them" how to kill him?

Or am I talking about something else?

He had stabbed Sylar before the bomb went off and Sylar would've died but he healed because he had already killed Claire and gained her healing abilities in Texas. Of couse this is because Hiro still believed that Sylar was the bomb and not Peter.

In the alternate timeline, Hiro stabbed Sylar with the katana, but he healed it and detonated because he had killed Claire.

Because Future Hiro went back in time to tell Peter to save Claire, the alternate timeline was erased and Peter became the bomb, though Sylar was blamed due to the fact that a) Nathan wanted to protect Peter and b) Sylar was a psychopathic murderer anyways...

Originally posted by Captain REX
In the alternate timeline, Hiro stabbed Sylar with the katana, but he healed it and detonated because he had killed Claire.

Because Future Hiro went back in time to tell Peter to save Claire, the alternate timeline was erased and Peter became the bomb, though Sylar was blamed due to the fact that a) Nathan wanted to protect Peter and b) Sylar was a psychopathic murderer anyways...

Originally posted by Entity
But how did Sylar heal if Claire was alive and well?
And if he was never stabbed in the new timeline why does future Hiro still remember it?

Does he though? I'm sure at the beginning of the episode Future Hiro asked Hiro (present time one) if he killed Sylar. It sounded to me that he was looking for an answer, and at the end of the episode Hiro said to Ando he was going to kill Sylar when he returned to his proper time. That's how I remember it anyway, I might download it to watch again.
So I think as Future Hiro told Peter to save Claire, Sylar was never stabbed, Isaac just drew the comic to show how to kill him, and Nathan pinned the blame for the explosion on Sylar to protect Peter.

In the timeline in which Claire is still alive but the bomb still exploded, Sylar was not stabbed.

Originally posted by The Pict
Does he though? I'm sure at the beginning of the episode Future Hiro asked Hiro (present time one) if he killed Sylar. It sounded to me that he was looking for an answer, and at the end of the episode Hiro said to Ando he was going to kill Sylar when he returned to his proper time. That's how I remember it anyway, I might download it to watch again.
So I think as Future Hiro told Peter to save Claire, Sylar was never stabbed, Isaac just drew the comic to show how to kill him, and Nathan pinned the blame for the explosion on Sylar to protect Peter.

Question is thou, how is Sylar still alive if Hiro stabbed him 5 years before he gains Claire's powers?

Originally posted by Captain REX
In the timeline in which Claire is still alive but the bomb still exploded, Sylar was not stabbed.

in future hiros reality he stabbed him but he had claires powers also, sylar wasnt the bomb so it didnt matter. In the reality where peter saved claire sylar has not been stabbed yet nor has the bomb gone off yet.

Originally posted by Entity
Yes. Future Hiro specifically says that he stabbed Sylar before the bomb but he healed. When Hiro and Ando tell him Peter saved Claire he acted like everything should be fixed. Then saying that Hiro had to go back to finish killing Sylar again.

Question is thou, how is Sylar still alive if Hiro stabbed him 5 years before he gains Claire's powers?

Originally posted by Entity
Then why did future Hiro remember it?

And Future Hiro does not remember this because he himself is unaware of what transpired because of his going back in time. Like in A Sound of Tunder. Eckels changed history and time, but upon returning, he didn't know what happened because of it until he witnessed it.

Originally posted by Strangelove

And Future Hiro does not remember this because he himself is unaware of what transpired because of his going back in time.

✅ I'm watching the start of the episode now, future Hiro asks if Peter saved Claire and if Hiro killed Sylar, because he himself doesn't know.

Originally posted by The Pict
✅ I'm watching the start of the episode now, future Hiro asks if Peter saved Claire and if Hiro killed Sylar, because he himself doesn't know.

In the one they were in he claimed to have stabbed Sylar and his healing is why he pinpointed saving Claire as the event that would change it all. Yet we all saw Claire was alive in that timeline. Thou no one knew it, save Bennet and Matt, for sure.

So why in that future did future Hiro still remember Sylar healing in his original time line if Claire was allive?

Now do you all see what I am trying to say?

Originally posted by Entity
My point is that he told them that he wanted them to save Claire because in his time line Sylar healed when he stabbed him. No, he didn't know if Hiro had killed Sylar in the new timeline, your right about that but, since Claire was alive in that future, Hiro shouldn't have remembered Sylar healing at all. Because with Claire allive in the same future it should have never happened. Either Claire should have been dead or Hiro shouldn't have remembered Sylar healing.

In the one they were in he claimed to have stabbed Sylar and his healing is why he pinpointed saving Claire as the event that would change it all. Yet we all saw Claire was alive in that timeline. Thou no one knew it, save Bennet and Matt, for sure.

So why in that future did future Hiro still remember Sylar healing in his original time line if Claire was allive?

Now do you all see what I am trying to say?

Not really, I'm getting lost myself. When did he claim to have stabbed Sylar?

He does so in the String Theory comic that preludes Five Years Gone, and I'm sure he says it at some point in the show, when explaining what happened to Hiro...

I'm thinking that, since Future Hiro got back to the future and went 'What? Nothing's changed?' he doesn't have the memories of the changed world, since he did not actually witness it himself. *shrug*

Originally posted by Captain REX
He does so in the String Theory comic that preludes Five Years Gone, and I'm sure he says it at some point in the show, when explaining what happened to Hiro...

I'm thinking that, since Future Hiro got back to the future and went 'What? Nothing's changed?' he doesn't have the memories of the changed world, since he did not actually witness it himself. *shrug*

Yea I'm guessing that too. Thou time travelers not changing with their timelines never sat well with me. I almost almost certain your right thou.

No, Entity's right here. The Hiro in the '5 years in the future' timeline, represents what Hiro would have been like if things continued as they were going for 5 years, without CBoKotF (change based on knowledge of the future). In that timeline, Sylar should never have had Claire's regenerative powers '5 years ago,' given that she's still alive in the timeline, yet he was still able to use them after Hiro stabbed him, and survive. It's a serious timeline mistake on the show's writers' part, that's all there is to it.

OOHHHH!!!!! I get it now!!!

That's why this show was featured at ComiCon..............

Because this show is based off of a Comic Book by the same name....

Ahhhhhhh.....Finally.............the last piece of the puzzle.

I didn't realize there was a comic of this show.

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
No, Entity's right here. The Hiro in the '5 years in the future' timeline, represents what Hiro would have been like if things continued as they were going for 5 years, without CBoKotF (change based on knowledge of the future). In that timeline, Sylar should never have had Claire's regenerative powers '5 years ago,' given that she's still alive in the timeline, yet he was still able to use them after Hiro stabbed him, and survive. It's a serious timeline mistake on the show's writers' part, that's all there is to it.

Sylar DIDN'T regenerate. The stabbing never happened! He doesn't have Claire's regenerative powers until he kills her in the new timeline that Hiro created.

I JUST explained that and Entity agrees.

Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
No, Entity's right here. The Hiro in the '5 years in the future' timeline, represents what Hiro would have been like if things continued as they were going for 5 years, without CBoKotF (change based on knowledge of the future). In that timeline, Sylar should never have had Claire's regenerative powers '5 years ago,' given that she's still alive in the timeline, yet he was still able to use them after Hiro stabbed him, and survive. It's a serious timeline mistake on the show's writers' part, that's all there is to it.

Actually its not as Future Hiro had fixed time but in doing so past Hiro no longer felt the need to kill Sylar so he survived.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
I read somewhere that her powers was very similar to one of the "Heroes" but that she had more control over them. Maybe her power is teleportation.

Nah i'm thinking pre-cognition like Isaac.

They did say they were getting rid of someone we'd never expect but, what if that person's role could instintly be taken over by someone else?

Its very likely they were talking about Issac and Nathan and Peter's mom.

Thou, honestly I'd been waitin for Issac to die. Even besides Hiro's seeing him dead in the future. Especially when he killed Simone.