M. Bison vs Kazuya Mishima

Originally posted by SmashBro
1. You didn't really make an argument, that's why I said that.

2. This topic (obviously):

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=482179&pagenumber=33

2. Lol you just can't read.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Sure I did, you just ignored it, like you ignored everyone elses.

2. Lol you just can't read.

1. No you didn't. You just simply said someone is more reliable.

2. I wouldn't be having a conversation with you if I couldn't.

Bison.

In Charlie's endin he gets 8 nukes drooped on'im and comes steppin out the fire like my mans Seph but only more sinister lookin, THEN he continues to fight Charlie while in a fighter Jet. Dude has got so much power he can't even use it all, he needs a satellite and drive to use it for'im. The man can vape cities wit just one use of the drive not to mention wit the Drive he's immortal. I have never seen Devil come close to such feats.

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/c/sfa3char.htm

in the end, it's only one big damn explosion. care if you explain where's the other 7 bomb? and... I wonder if we could consider it as canon feat...? anyone explains this? :

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/c/sfa3dan.htm

destroyed by a joke is not funny. at first non-canon ending, he survived a nuclear. in the second non-canon ending, he was destroyed by... hisshou burai ken. so I guess we can't use this "surviving a nuke" as bison's feat then...

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/c/sfa3char.htm

in the end, it's only one big damn explosion. care if you explain where's the other 7 bomb? and... I wonder if we could consider it as canon feat...? anyone explains this? :

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/c/sfa3dan.htm

destroyed by a joke is not funny. at first non-canon ending, he survived a nuclear. in the second non-canon ending, he was destroyed by... hisshou burai ken. so I guess we can't use this "surviving a nuke" as bison's feat then...

Well Blax admitted that he ignored all the other endings so you know someone who acts like that isn't gonna understand that.

In the first round Kazuya will most likely lose. Bison is just to powerful even we he isn't at full power.

Second round is a toss up but I'm leaning towards Shin M. Bison because of teleportation.

Wait, did someone try to use Dan Hibiki's ending? 🤨 Oh come on. It's DAN. He's a joke character. The other endings are at least reasonable.

it's a joke or not, the point is both dan and charlie's endings are not canon. you want something which isn't a joke? fine. then try this :

http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/c/sfa3ken.htm

surviving a nuke and now destroyed by a shoryuken. now don't tell me that shoryuken is stronger than a nuclear.

Noncanon endings show canon abilities.

Dan is a joke character. Really, using his ending just makes you look stupid.

The Shoryuken is a move based on spirit power and has a more piercing effect than an explosive effect, so they cannot be compared to a nuke.

you know there's a plenty non-canon endings in SFA3 aren't you? which shows bison destroyed in so many ways. so i guess the day dan could destroy bison with hisshou burai ken is a canon feat then...

so what if he's a joke? the fact is his ending is noncanon.

do you have any proof? would you show me the links about "shoryuken based on spirit power?"

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
you know there's a plenty non-canon endings in SFA3 aren't you? which shows bison destroyed in so many ways. so i guess the day dan could destroy bison with hisshou burai ken is a canon feat then...

so what if he's a joke? the fact is his ending is noncanon.

do you have any proof? would you show me the links about "shoryuken based on spirit power?"

2. It means nothing about him should be taken seriously. Like him beating Bison...Or anyone for that matter.

3. I probably phrased that badly. I meant it is created through the use of Ki, which is power from the spirit.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. For one thing the difference between blunt force trauma and being able to withstand a nuke is fairly vast. And being beaten up and then self destructing from his own power really doesn't disprove the nuke feat at all.

2. It means nothing about him should be taken seriously. Like him beating Bison...Or anyone for that matter.

3. I probably phrased that badly. I meant it is created through the use of Ki, which is power from the spirit.

1. so, e-honda and gen make bison self destruct?

2. I don't have the reason to take charlie's ending seriously. besides, all I know is guile's ending is canon since charlie was dead and never shown up again.

3. then, is ki deadlier than a bomb? did ken make bison self destruct?

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
1. so, e-honda and gen make bison self destruct?

2. I don't have the reason to take charlie's ending seriously. besides, all I know is guile's ending is canon since charlie was dead and never shown up again.

3. then, is ki deadlier than a bomb? did ken make bison self destruct?

2. Kay. You have your opinion, I have mine.

3. What I said is the different damage type makes a difference, for example, Wonderwoman can take Superman's punches, but bullets have been shown to pierce her. Superman's punch in this case can be the nuke, and the bullets can be the Shoryuken(both are capable of piercing). I can't remember if Ken made his self destruct.

You know... Guile wasn't even in the original arcade release of SFA3... Gule was originally added on in the PS1 home conversion...

guile want to avenge bison for his friend, charlie. just like : http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/c/sf2cegui.htm

there's no other explanation for this. we know charlie was safe in his SFA3 ending. but in guile's ending in alpha 3, we know he's finished. that's why I consider guile's ending is canon.

Oh no, don't misunderstand me, all I meant from that is that Capcom has a nasty habit of retroactively changing their stories upteen million times...

However, the original arcade release didn't have Guile or his ending in it is al I'm saying, and besides, that still has nothing to do with the continual double-standard here..

alright. I'm sorry for misunderstood you... 😛

and I finally have an opinion for this match. kazuya wins this.

🤨 Why?

you see... he survived after tossed from the cliff when he's 8 years old. and now he's 49 years old. so he must have a really good endurance.

power? he's capable to destroy a bulletproof robots which is designed to fight without his full power. and devil also defeat someone who survived a honmaru blast with only one move.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/c/sfa3char.htm

in the end, it's only one big damn explosion. care if you explain where's the other 7 bomb? and... I wonder if we could consider it as canon feat...? anyone explains this? :

Despite popular belief their is SOME animation, it's not all still images, in the ending you can clearly see him ACTUALLY drop 8 nukes. I got the PSP version and I'm fightin Bison now in "Final Battle Mode" and Yur right, it wasn't eight nukes........................IT WAS TEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you keep goin to VG Museum to see only PARTS of endins and I'll continue to play the ACTUAL game so that I can be 100% correct and you can be absolutely WRONG.

And that whole Bison thing 'bout blowin up the city............he does, the game actually shows Bison's beam hitting the city and blowing it up, but of course you wouldn't know that just lookin at still images at VG Museum...you would need the actual animation, which you aint got.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/c/sfa3dan.htm

destroyed by a joke is not funny. at first non-canon ending, he survived a nuclear. in the second non-canon ending, he was destroyed by... hisshou burai ken. so I guess we can't use this "surviving a nuke" as bison's feat then...

Dan actually beatin Bison is not the feat, but for example, Dan fightin Bison and breakin down a tree durin the fight would be the feat but that didn't happen. Beatin some body is not a feat unless there is some kind of handicap involved and if you beat someone who clearly stronger than you, it's just jobbin.

On last example...the UDON comic.....

"They (Capcom) basically told us (UDON) that they trusted us and as long as the story and abilities were true to the characters, we could do what we wanted in the story since it was outside of the videogame series continuity—we could essentially create our own continuity. With that said, we knew since the beginning that we wouldn't be straying too far from the official storyline since we know that is what the fans wanted to see."

Bison fightin Shadow Charlie is not a canon event but Shadow Charlie throwin an SUV at Bison and Bison being able back hand it into a mountain is an ability that Bison has. The event aint canon but the powers they display is true to themselves, thus they are capable. Especially seein as how SFA3 is a canon game.