its a PIS feat where people CLAIM he is holding two omniverses. when he can not infact do so as an omniverse implies all realities of all comic book publishers. and there is only one multiverse in marvel. sorta like how genis vell is now an OMNIVERSAL TELEPATH and scarlet which in house of m with her chaos wave cud destroy the omniverse. etc etc.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
its a PIS feat where people CLAIM he is holding two omniverses. when he can not infact do so as an omniverse implies all realities of all comic book publishers. and there is only one multiverse in marvel. sorta like how genis vell is now an OMNIVERSAL TELEPATH and scarlet which in house of m with her chaos wave cud destroy the omniverse. etc etc.
We went over this months ago. Most writers use omniverse to prescribe to all things medium including tv, comic books, cartoons, ect. But marvel and dc have both used omniverse a couple times now. Grant morrison wrote a book in which he describes how the comics omniverse was created. By the Lord of Time.
Originally posted by leonheartmmUm, he was holding to megaverses, noit Omniverses.
its a PIS feat where people CLAIM he is holding two omniverses. when he can not infact do so as an omniverse implies all realities of all comic book publishers. and there is only one multiverse in marvel. sorta like how genis vell is now an OMNIVERSAL TELEPATH and scarlet which in house of m with her chaos wave cud destroy the omniverse. etc etc.
And Marvel has more then one multiverse.
MOM-Mother Of Creation. She has Always been Supreme, and always will be. In Image, there is No Higher Power Than Herself.
Elaine is more powerful than Lucifer and Micheal, but she wasn't always omnipotent. She had to become so. She created one multiverse and merged two others with it. She will still never surpass Yahweh.
Thanos w HOTI was omnipotent for a short time, through acquisition, not through his own natural power, and was being manipulated by the TOAA. He will still NEVER surpass TOAA,.
Mother of Creation/MOM is the only being out of the three who is pure omnipotence, on her own, without the AID of any evolution or artifact of power. She takes it. She needs not surpass anyone, for she is the end all.
She is Image's TOAA/Presence.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
thanos with the HOTU destroyed the 616 reality and all other universes connected to it.
Correct.
That's the Omniverse.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
he didnt destroy anything OUTSIDE it,
Anything outside Time & Space specifically.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
not the void,
What's there to destroy?
In any case,
That's because Thanos turned Time & Space into a Void.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
not the beyond realm.
That's because it's located outside of Time & Space.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
it was ONE multiverse at max{warlock survived}.
Warlock survived because he was attending Atleza with Gamora.
Atlea's Realm is Outside if Time & Space.
Thanos only absorbed all the Time & Space in the Omniverse.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and the HOTU remade the multiverse.
Along with the Omniverse.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
elaine on the other hand single handedly created her multiverse{without micheal or lucifer i think}
Thanos re-created from nothingness All of Time & Space in Marvel.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
accidentally without burning out her power at all.
Thanos never bunrt out his powers either.
Thanos obliterated the Heart himself.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
her peers in power, micheal and lucifer
THOTI's peers?
None.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
have each created more than one/stood at ground zero of multiverse shattering explosions{like THOTU did ONCE and it was the extenet of its power} without suffering a scratch
Thanos didn't receive a scratch either when the LT (who can crush MegaverseS in one hand)
attacked Thanos.
...................................................................................
" The Tribunal is serene in His OMNIPOTENCE"
"the Pulse of Creation reverberates through him,
for He is its HEART,
ALPHA & OMEGA revolve on the Wheel of Destiny,
a Destiny spun by His mighty hand"
"A Hand soon opening to allow TWO Brothers
to assume their pre-destined Roles as Architects of New Realities ...
and ONLY this Judge knows why"
...................................................................................
Each Megaverse is a collection of MultiverseS:
(excerpt fro the Official Marvel Handbook 2006)
"Within the Omniverse,
collections of associated realms from different Multiverses are referred to as Megaverses"
...................................................................................
That same LT, who holds the embodiments of Two MegaverseS in one hand,
getting stomped by THOTI:
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and can easily exist in the void etc.
And?
Originally posted by leonheartmm
neither thanos nor THOTU is in the same league as them.
elaine will write the HOTU out of existance with a thought if she wished.
5funny
Originally posted by Mr Masteralways well thought out posts with meat to them.
Correct.That's the Omniverse.
Anything outside Time & Space specifically.
What's there to destroy?
In any case,
That's because Thanos turned Time & Space into a Void.
That's because it's located outside of Time & Space.
Warlock survived because he was attending Atleza with Gamora.
Atlea's Realm is Outside if Time & Space.
Thanos only absorbed all the Time & Space in the Omniverse.
Along with the Omniverse.
Thanos re-created from nothingness All of Time & Space in Marvel.
Thanos never bunrt out his powers either.
Thanos obliterated the Heart himself.
THOTI's peers?
None.
Thanos didn't receive a scratch either when the LT (who can crush MegaverseS in one hand)
attacked Thanos....................................................................................
"[B] The Tribunal
is serene in His OMNIPOTENCE""the Pulse of Creation reverberates through him,
for He is its HEART,
ALPHA & OMEGA revolve on the Wheel of Destiny,
a Destiny spun by His mighty hand"
"A Hand soon opening to allow TWO Brothers
to assume their pre-destined Roles as Architects of New Realities ...
and ONLY this Judge knows why"
...................................................................................
Each Megaverse is a collection of MultiverseS:
(excerpt fro the Official Marvel Handbook 2006)
"Within the Omniverse,
collections of associated realms from different Multiverses are referred to as Megaverses"
...................................................................................
That same LT, who holds the embodiments of Two MegaverseS in one hand,
getting stomped by THOTI:
And?
5funny [/B]
😉
Originally posted by quanchi112
does mom have any combat feats equal to thanos?
She doesn't need to fight. She is naturally infinite and eternal. She created God, Satan, GodSpawn, and Urizen. She has countless children who are Immortal and All-Powerful within themselves.
All the wisdom, power, time/space, and every other aspect of Image's existance belongs to her.
Originally posted by SpearofDestinywell then in image she is supreme but in marvel she isnt. thanos was supreme on panel.
She doesn't need to fight. She is [b]naturally infinite and eternal. She created God, Satan, GodSpawn, and Urizen. She has countless children who are Immortal and All-Powerful within themselves.All the wisdom, power, time/space, and every other aspect of Image's existance belongs to her. [/B]
Originally posted by quanchi112
well then in image she is supreme but in marvel she isnt. thanos was supreme on panel.
It matters not whether Thanos was supreme in Marvel. What matters is MOM is supreme in Image they stalemate. Just because Thanos was supreme in Marvel, which is a big stretch doesn't put him over MoM unless you hate Image 😛
Originally posted by kevdudewell if thanos has feats and mom doesnt shouldnt that give thanos the slight edge?
It matters not whether Thanos was supreme in Marvel. What matters is MOM is supreme in Image they stalemate. Just because Thanos was supreme in Marvel, which is a big stretch doesn't put him over MoM unless you hate Image 😛
Correct.That's the Omniverse.
untrue. that is a singular multiverse. the megaverse wud comprise of the beyond realm and the void which wasnt in time or space itself. it wud also consist of death etc and anti time/space abstracts. plus all things beyond eternity/infinite.
the OMNIVERSE on the other hand consists of all such relaities{ANYTHING that has ever been hinted or shown to be a defineable construct in ALL other comic publishers}
Anything outside Time & Space specifically.
yes. and those comprise of the marvel megaverse. it isnt just the 616 reality and the multiverse surrounding it
What's there to destroy?In any case,
That's because Thanos turned Time & Space into a Void.
the concepts of destruction itself and the concept of nuthingness. remember what strange saw inside the beyonder? "power to CREATE POWER and THINGS BEYOND"
lucifer/micheal/elaine are all beyond destruction/death etc. lucifer cud kill death if he wished and this was confirmed by death. the beyonder KILLED death.
That's because it's located outside of Time & Space.
hence sumthing of the reality survived, even if it wasnt traditional EXISTANCE. thanos did not have power over it and hence wasnt SUPREME.
Warlock survived because he was attending Atleza with Gamora.Atlea's Realm is Outside if Time & Space.
Thanos only absorbed all the Time & Space in the Omniverse.
so you admit there were things he didnt have power over. hence u cant call it ALL OF MARVEL REALITY. and he isnt supreme in the megaverse.
and already adressed, it wasnt the omniverse, it wasnt even the megaverse, it was just the multiverse. a single one.
Along with the Omniverse.
untrue. its already explained that it wasnt even the MEGAVERSE. let alone the omniverse. go up to the definitions.
Thanos re-created from nothingness All of Time & Space in Marvel.
RE created. not just CREATED, without any context. furthermore, he didnt REcreate death. or the beyond realm or NUTHINGNESS. tmie and space and eternity/infinite. two VERY falliable abstracts that have been beaten/killed before by beings like abraxas and destroyed by the infinity gauntlett. it is just ONE multiverse.
Thanos never bunrt out his powers either.Thanos obliterated the Heart himself.
it wasnt his power. and i was merely elaborating that that wasnt an end all feat. just a casual one.
THOTI's peers?None.
beyonder, ultimate nullifier, TOAA, roma, scarlett witch in house of m with chaos. not really peers but infact superior.
Thanos didn't receive a scratch either when the LT (who can crush MegaverseS in one hand)
attacked Thanos.
LT can not crush megaverses{initially u claimed they were omniverses} he PROTECTS a singular multiverse. he has no power over the void and beyond realm of marvel which ALONG WITH THE SINGULAR MULTIVERSE COMPRISE THE MARVEL MEGAVERSE. he has no power over the megaverses of another comic book publisher. it is called COPYRIGHT, sumthing even the supreme being{TOAA} or his pencil can not surpass. get used to the idea.
..................................................................................." The Tribunal is serene in His OMNIPOTENCE"
"the Pulse of Creation reverberates through him,
for He is its HEART,
ALPHA & OMEGA revolve on the Wheel of Destiny,
a Destiny spun by His mighty hand"
"A Hand soon opening to allow TWO Brothers
to assume their pre-destined Roles as Architects of New Realities ...
and ONLY this Judge knows why"
hyperbole, bull. i cud give tons more quotes and poetic dialogue which has been used to describe every1 from galactus to eternity to the ifinites and not excluding the dimensional fortress/infinity/genis/phoenix/shiar crystal/beyonder etc.
he has no authority over anything more than the singular multiverse of marvel
...................................................................................Each Megaverse is a collection of MultiverseS:
(excerpt fro the Official Marvel Handbook 2006)
"Within the Omniverse,
collections of associated realms from different Multiverses are referred to as Megaverses"
official handbook is in ignorance, as it fails to account the realms OUTSIDE the multiverse but still in the confines of the comic publisher. they also comprise the publisher's megaverse.
marvel megaverse= singular multiverse+beyond realm+void+infinity being{although it is sysnonomous with the multiverse and its abstracts}
ofcourse u shud know there are NUMEROUS discrepancies in the official handbook.
...................................................................................That same LT, who holds the embodiments of Two MegaverseS in one hand,
getting stomped by THOTI:
it is PIS. LT is PART of a singular megaverse. remember, even the supreme pencil can not surpass copyright.
Originally posted by Power16true if mom is supreme there prolly would be a stalemate. i just like supremacy and proving it on panel. gives u evidence but if mom is supreme then its a stalemate.
If they are both stated to be Supreme then it shouldn't matter unless there is doubt that MOM is not supreme.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
untrue. that is a singular multiverse. the megaverse wud comprise of the beyond realm and the void which wasnt in time or space itself. it wud also consist of death etc and anti time/space abstracts. plus all things beyond eternity/infinite.the OMNIVERSE on the other hand consists of all such relaities{ANYTHING that has ever been hinted or shown to be a defineable construct in ALL other comic publishers}
yes. and those comprise of the marvel megaverse. it isnt just the 616 reality and the multiverse surrounding it
the concepts of destruction itself and the concept of nuthingness. remember what strange saw inside the beyonder? "power to CREATE POWER and THINGS BEYOND"
lucifer/micheal/elaine are all beyond destruction/death etc. lucifer cud kill death if he wished and this was confirmed by death. the beyonder KILLED death.
hence sumthing of the reality survived, even if it wasnt traditional EXISTANCE. thanos did not have power over it and hence wasnt SUPREME.
so you admit there were things he didnt have power over. hence u cant call it ALL OF MARVEL REALITY. and he isnt supreme in the megaverse.
and already adressed, it wasnt the omniverse, it wasnt even the megaverse, it was just the multiverse. a single one.untrue. its already explained that it wasnt even the MEGAVERSE. let alone the omniverse. go up to the definitions.
RE created. not just CREATED, without any context. furthermore, he didnt REcreate death. or the beyond realm or NUTHINGNESS. tmie and space and eternity/infinite. two VERY falliable abstracts that have been beaten/killed before by beings like abraxas and destroyed by the infinity gauntlett. it is just ONE multiverse.
it wasnt his power. and i was merely elaborating that that wasnt an end all feat. just a casual one.
beyonder, ultimate nullifier, TOAA, roma, scarlett witch in house of m with chaos. not really peers but infact superior.
LT can not crush megaverses{initially u claimed they were omniverses} he PROTECTS a singular multiverse. he has no power over the void and beyond realm of marvel which ALONG WITH THE SINGULAR MULTIVERSE COMPRISE THE MARVEL MEGAVERSE. he has no power over the megaverses of another comic book publisher. it is called COPYRIGHT, sumthing even the supreme being{TOAA} or his pencil can not surpass. get used to the idea.
hyperbole, bull. i cud give tons more quotes and poetic dialogue which has been used to describe every1 from galactus to eternity to the ifinites and not excluding the dimensional fortress/infinity/genis/phoenix/shiar crystal/beyonder etc.
he has no authority over anything more than the singular multiverse of marvel
official handbook is in ignorance, as it fails to account the realms OUTSIDE the multiverse but still in the confines of the comic publisher. they also comprise the publisher's megaverse.
marvel megaverse= singular multiverse+beyond realm+void+infinity being{although it is sysnonomous with the multiverse and its abstracts}
ofcourse u shud know there are NUMEROUS discrepancies in the official handbook.
it is PIS. LT is PART of a singular megaverse. remember, even the supreme pencil can not surpass copyright.
Yes ok,
All the On Panel evidence I gave you is "poetic hyperbole"
All the official Handdbooks are "ignorant"
The Two official Marvel websites are "making things up"
But thank goodness we have you here, to correct all that.
Yes I know your opinion contradicts everything that took place in
Marvel Comics On Panel,
that's stated in the Official Marvel Handbooks,
and established on the Official Marvel websites.
But somehow you have to still be right. crazy
Originally posted by rico777
This is a battle between Elaine and MOM in my opinion... which could be a stalementThanos is irrelevant here as he wasn't supreme like TOAA
MOM beats Elaine. Elaine Is a stalemate for Thanos with the Heart. MOM is above both she answers to no one. Elaine Answers to the Presence and Thanos answers to the one above all. MOM won this fight before it began.
Yes ok,All the On Panel evidence I gave you is "poetic hyperbole" [/QUOT]
yes it is and there are numerous examples of it in marvel/dc. the terms used are too vague and ambiguous by marvel standards.
[QUOTE]All the official Handdbooks are "ignorant"
it is at this point just like it is at many others. and this is just one.
The Two official Marvel websites are "making things up"
no but u r. the things you are extrapulating from their words is making things up. specially when things like "supreme" is thrown around like garbage
But thank goodness we have you here, to correct all that.
well, that is ur oppinion isnt it. im flattered anyway.
[QUOTEYes I know your opinion contradicts everything that took place in
Marvel Comics On Panel,
that's stated in the Official Marvel Handbooks,
and established on the Official Marvel websites.[/QUOTE]
completely and utterly untru. it contradicts small parts of a large number of statements given in either. but is in accordance with the GREATER number of on panel feats{exponentially} than it is contradicting the handfull of PIS feats u mentioned.
on the other hand it is mostly in opposition of the majority of YOUR wildly extrapulant and contradictory claims.
But somehow you have to still be right.
read above. n no, u made my job a lot easier by being WRONG. i just have to state the case of sanity.
