Originally posted by Schecter
everything i could have possibly said in response to this woman's specific "points" (hateful brain excrement) have already been said. every "point" squashed for the fallacious horseshit that it is.the fact is that people read this crap knowing full well that it is racist, full well that they are attempting to justify hatred and murder of anyone who follows a religion, full well that they are bloodthirsty hateful empowerers of those who feel that murdering 1000 innocents to capture 1 terrorist is sound and logical. they have heard the facts, they have been appealed with the simplest and soundest of logic, and they dont wanna hear it.
What you have just said is horseshit. I am extremely skeptical of the idea that the woman who wrote this wants all Muslims dead, but you quick throw out the "hatred" and "murder" card to validate your point. That would be incorrect. Clearly--although this is obvious, I say it since, from the responses in this thread, it would seem that it is not quite obvious--the woman is referring not to all of Islam but of radical Islam. Furthermore, a number of points she makes are valid (albeit not tactful). I'll give my own assessment of the e-mail (I don't care if you read it or not).
Originally posted by sithsaber408
This woman should run for president!
Well, no, she shouldn't. Being the President requires diplomacy and tact rather than knee-jerk reactions.
Written by a housewife from New Jersey and sounds like it! This is one ticked off lady."Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we?
She's from Jersey. Wonderful. And, yes, we are fighting a war on terror.
Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001?
Indeed, September 11, 2001 was the act that spurred the war in Iraq into action, and those who committed the attack were Islamic.
Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania ?
They were indeed murdered.
Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?
Indeed they died horribly.
And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was "desecrated" when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?
According to some people, yes, one is supposed to care about this.
...Well, I don't. I don't care at all.I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11.
Grand.
I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia .
She makes the point that we're expected to treat the Qu'ran like it's holy and sacred whereas the Muslim radicals--notice the use of the word "fanatics" to designate them, much like when President Bush described them similarly (oh, but that was hateful, too)--don't give a rat's ass. She asks, "Why should we care that someone flushed it down the toilet?" My response is, "I don't know."
I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.
Was Nick Berg decapitated? Indeed he was.
I'll care when the cowardly so-called "insurgents" in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques.
I assume that the woman is referring to our inability to touch mosques due to the international backlash caused by such an action. By staying in their mosques, they are refuse to die honorably.
I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.
Do suicide bombers kill children when they detonate themselves? Indeed. Are they in search of nirvana? As Strangelove points out, she's probably confusing Buddhism and Islam, although a definition of nirvana says that it is, "a place or state characterized by freedom from or oblivion to pain, worry, and the external world."
My money's still on mixing them up, though. (Cue the "ignance intolerance" spam.)
I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights.
I'm not sure exactly to what the woman is referring.
In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care.
When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured: I don't care.
Were the incidents claimed to be torture blown out-of-proportion? In some cases, yes.
When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head after he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank: I don't care.
The woman would not be expected to care if it were a cop-killer who was being captured but could have killed more policemen.
When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed "special" food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being "mishandled," you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts: I don't care.
A rough translation: "QQ moar, nub."
And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled "Koran" and other times "Quran." Well, Jimmy Crack Corn and-you guessed it-I don't care!!
Grammar and spelling are of high importance, next to cleanliness. Shame on you.
If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous
behavior!
I'm not sure I would describe it as "ridiculous," and I certainly don't think that those responsible will care.
If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great Country!
Again, we have the adjective "radical" to differentiate between peaceful and militant Muslims.
And may I add:"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem." -- Ronald Reagan.
I have another quote that I would like to add AND.......I hope you forward all this. "If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under." Also by.. Ronald Reagan.
Yay, Ronald Reagan. Not terribly important to this letter, though.
One last thought for the day:In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the Anti-American sentiment and negativity, we should remember England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his Parliament members why he believes so much in America , he said: "A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in... And how many want out."
Damn Mexicans sneaking across the border.
Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you:
1 Jesus Christ
True enough.
2. The American G. I.
It's less dying for "you" in a personal sense than a global sense, but, yes, I suppose that is correct. I do, however, raise an eyebrow at the idea of "defining forces" (what does that mean?) and the word "only." Absolutes often don't apply in the real world.
dont call them hypocrites, because its useless to do so. they will howl and beat their chests and inform you that they have more of a right to their 'opinion' than you have of expressing simple logic. '2+2=4' must step aside for "2+2=498375979...BECAUSE I ****ING SAID SO, LIBERAL PUSSY!!1"
I'll rewrite that for you:
Don't call them hypocrites, as it is useless to do so. They will howl and beat their chests and inform you that they have more of a right to their opinion than you have of expressing logic. "Two plus two equals four" must step aside for "two plus two equals 498,375,979, BECAUSE I SAID SO, CONSERVATIVE HATE-MONGER! Your intolerance--blah--hatefulness--blah, blah--intolerant behavior--blah--dangerous Fundamentalism--blah, blah, blah.