Anybody afraid to admit that they feel this..

Started by Quiero Mota9 pages
Originally posted by Robtard
He may or may not be a nationalist, but a racist? On what grounds?

That's what I'm saying. That was seriously a blind leap.

Yeah, my error. I should have put nationalist instead. I still believe it's out of order though, to not care at all about these people's lives. They've got families as well, that should be given some consideration and not just dismissed with a shrug of the shoulders.

Imagine reading a testament from an Iraqi, declaring that Iraqi lives matter and American ones mean nothing. Well we've all read those type of things and we've all seen how a lot of people react to it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Because he got attacked and invaded by a foreign country on his soil?

A-are you sure?

Just saying its natural for a country to care for their own troops and not ones from foreign countries.

Just an observation here, rather off-topic really, but since when is "nationalist" a bad word?

Isn't good to care about your nation, the one you live in, over others?

(not to the point of mistreatment, mind you.. but what's wrong with preferring your own country? The French do it all the time.) 😛

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Just an observation here, rather off-topic really, but since when is "nationalist" a bad word?

Isn't good to care about your nation, the one you live in, over others?

(not to the point of mistreatment, mind you.. but what's wrong with preferring your own country? The French do it all the time.) 😛

I don't think anyone said it was... correct me if I am wrong.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't think anyone said it was... correct me if I am wrong.

Also, saying the French do it, is not a good argument. 😆

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't think anyone said it was... correct me if I am wrong.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but chillmiester seems to use it as a term to show that Quiero is wrong.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but chillmiester seems to use it as a term to show that Quiero is wrong.

Yes, you're misinterpreting. I'm not saying there's a problem with nationalism to a degree. But, when it gets to the point when there is 'no reason to care' for lives that aren't American, I think it's going too far.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but chillmiester seems to use it as a term to show that Quiero is wrong.

You'd have to ask Chillmeistergen, who the **** knows what he means, he's from the U.K.

But there are different levels of nationalism, being proud and supporting your country is one thing, doing it blindly no matter the situation is another. I don't think anyone would consider the average German citizen who went along with the Nazi agenda in the 30's & 40's as good/proper "nationalism".

Originally posted by Robtard
You'd have to ask Chillmeistergen, who the **** knows what he means, he's from the U.K.

Lovely stuff.

Originally posted by FeceMan
He is not doing that at all.

Not intentionally, no. I said that.

But given the Toby Keith attitude of most of the people who would agree with the email, what kind of reaction to such wording would you expect?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Yes, you're misinterpreting. I'm not saying there's a problem with nationalism to a degree. But, when it gets to the point when there is 'no reason to care' for lives that aren't American, I think it's going too far.
so if a group of marines kills a dozen taliban commandos, do you feel for them?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so if a group of marines kills a dozen taliban commandos, do you feel for them?

Yeah.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Just an observation here, rather off-topic really, but since when is "nationalist" a bad word?

It becomes a bad thing when your sense of national pride is dependant upon a boot heel in the face of every other nation. That's not being proud of your country, that's being arrogant in the face of reason and diplomacy. That's when a "nationalist", as you put it, becomes an "imperialist", based on the fact that they think the rest of the world should be a little clone or provice of the nation to which you are referring.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Just an observation here, rather off-topic really, but since when is "nationalist" a bad word?

Isn't good to care about your nation, the one you live in, over others?

(not to the point of mistreatment, mind you.. but what's wrong with preferring your own country? The French do it all the time.) 😛

The French...hahaha. Not the first country that comes to mind when thinking of that.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Yeah.
why?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Yeah.

Now, would you feel the same if it was the other way around, because you care for human life in general? Or?

I'd feel the same no matter what. A life's a life.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so if a group of marines kills a dozen taliban commandos, do you feel for them?
No.

Though also not if a group of Taliban kills a dozen German soldiers.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
I'd feel the same no matter what. A life's a life.
good answer.