Originally posted by namorsubby
........but he got him with a shovel.if BS can hit him with a shovel, deadshot can hit him with bullets. people seem to forget that he has armor-piercing ang high explosives strong enough to completely destroy a manhunter(guardians of the universe's manhunters). what if he shoots a few of those? is cap gonna get out of the way in time. then there's the flamethower, and the flash bang, etc, etc
Bullseye has tagged lots of characters with his throwing ability and he has shown the ability to throw things faster then bullets. It borders on a looney tunes level with Bullseye. The guy Knocked out Daredevil with a paper air plane. And has even thrown things through bullet proof glass.
Plus Cap has blocked and dodged bullets before even Cyborg or Robots with computer guided aim fall short to hit Cap in time. Plus in this battle they'll both have prep and Cap is a tactical genius thanks to his enhanced mind. I'm sure Deadshot can tag Cap and win but IMO Cap takes him the majority of the time.
Originally posted by tjcoadyyou could say the same thing about any dude with a gun.
What's his name, Crossbones (something like that) took out Steve with a gun....All Deadshot needs is an opening and it's exactly the same: Deadshot for the win.
If Cap knows he's coming, and it's more of a battlefield than say... a crowded city block, then Cap destroys him, though.
Originally posted by namorsubby
deadshot aims and shoots before cap can dodge, so the bullet's speed are in essence added to DS's superior reflexes, meaning cap can be hit.before you start at that,no, i don't mean "add" as in increasing the bullet's speed. deadshot aims and shoots too fast for cap to dodge. I can't see how that doesn't register.
what kind of feat comparison could prove that cap lift his shield before DS could lift his gun? they've never met for one, and for two, the feat against the super-speedster proves DS is faster reflex-wise........go ahead and find whatever scan you wish to put up against that.
still though, it's obvious you don't truly acknowledge the feat.it's also obvious that the scans wanted to make it clear that deadshot [b]could've
hit boomerang, and was simply toying with him, but you still say:[/B]
You'd need some "quick drawing" feats to support the claim. And if you find them, I can post numerous scans supporting Cap's ability to raise his shield at high speeds to compare them to. If being able to follow the movements of and tag and speedster is enough, then Cap's being able to follow the movements of and being able to tag several speedsters(such as the Wizzer, Whirlwind, and Quicksilver) over the years is probably right up there with it depending on how fast Boomerang actually is.
Originally posted by namorsubby
as if you either denying or ignoring the facti really don't know why i went for this one last time, i can see the futility of it already, but i'll take this as an indication that everything hasn't gone to waste:
Originally posted by namorsubby
i'll just end it by saying, cap is roughly bat-speed, and we know just how easily deadshot could tag him, if it wasn't for his specific weakness. regardless of that dibilitating weakness, deadshot has still managed to be fast enough to have to think not to be lethal with batman and still incapacitate him with bullets. also floyd has taken deathstroke, who some seem to think is very comparable to cap, even equal.......i think otherwise in the favor of slade but still. in conclusion, hitting super-speedsters justifies being able to hit peak humans so this statement seems strange to me:
Originally posted by darthgoober......................
If Cap can dodge bullet's after they're fired then he can dodge bullets after they're fired, Captain Boomerang's showing against DS doesn't take away from Cap's given abilities.You'd need some "quick drawing" feats to support the claim. And if you find them, I can post numerous scans supporting Cap's ability to raise his shield at high speeds to compare them to. If being able to follow the movements of and tag and speedster is enough, then Cap's being able to follow the movements of and being able to tag several speedsters(such as the Wizzer, Whirlwind, and Quicksilver) over the years is probably right up there with it depending on how fast Boomerang actually is.
I'm not denying or ignoring anything. I'm saying that he dodged the bullets because he's fast enough to dodge the bullets. DS may very well be able to follow CB's movements, but it doesn't mean that his bullets travel faster than CB can react to.
Batman and Deathstroke don't carry shields. Having a shield makes things a lot easier to keep from getting hit by. Especially when it's being wielded by someone like Cap.
Originally posted by namorsubby
alrighty then.i've expended a bit of energy here, so I'll just say Deadshot FTW
Originally posted by namorsubby
Cap's suit has been penetrated by bullets. Deadshot hits bullet dodgers all the time. Deadshot beat Deathstroke.also, Bullseye hit cap with a shovel........a shovel.
Deadshot FTW 😄
And lol about the shovel...
Originally posted by darthgoober
His suits also been shown to be bullet proof. He's also dodged people who are capable of hitting people who dodge bullets. Cap's more impressive than Deathstroke.And lol about the shovel...
Bullets have penetrated his suit. Can't be completely bulletproof, can it?
Like who? Like someone who could easily off Bruce if he meant to? Like someone who has killed super-speedsters? No.
LMAO. Not even worth replying to.
Why lol at the shovel? It did hit the famous bullet-outrunning Captain America, didn't it? 😕
Originally posted by namorsubby
Bullets have penetrated his suit. Can't be completely bulletproof, can it?Like who? Like someone who could easily off Bruce if he meant to? Like someone who has killed super-speedsters? No.
LMAO. Yeah, I believe that once he starts owning the avengers every third week.
Why lol at the shovel? It did hit the infamous bullet-outrunning Captain America, didn't it? 😕
Like Quicksilver.
So Slade's owned the Titans and/or JLA every third week huh? Do the math before you answer...
Because bullet dodgers get tagged all the time in melee. I know that you yourself consider Batman to be a bullet dodger, but I'm willing to bet that I wouldn't have to look very far to see one of his human villains hitting him with something that's laying around...
Originally posted by darthgoober
So bullets have never penetrated Batman's suit(since you said it was bulletproof in the other thread and all)?Like Quicksilver.
So Slade's owned the Titans and/or JLA every third week huh? Do the math before you answer...
Because bullet dodgers get tagged all the time in melee. I know that you yourself consider Batman to be a bullet dodger, but I'm willing to bet that I wouldn't have to look very far to see one of his human villains hitting him with something that's laying around...
I do believe I specifically said......well, i can show you better than can tell you:
Originally posted by namorsubby
BatmanBruce's suit is mostly bulletproof. He dodges bullets all the time. He beats Deadshot all the time.
How does the fact that he has tagged QS have anything to do with the fact that he can be tagged by Deadshot? Are his reflexes on QS's level? No. Irrelevant.
Let's see what Slade has to say about that:
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/batgirl004-09.jpg
Now let's see what one of the most powerful Titans has to say about it:
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/TheTitans22p17.jpg
Either way, I edited once I decided that wasn't even worth responding to.lol, Look above at the post^^
How is any of that relevant? So they get hit in fights, yeah. Has nothing to do with the fact that despite their ability to dodge bullets, they can't seem to evade Deadshot. What I'm saying is:
It has nothing to do with bullets. It has everything to do with Deadshot.
Originally posted by namorsubby
I do believe I specifically said......well, i can show you better than can tell you:How does the fact that he has tagged QS have anything to do with the fact that he can be tagged by Deadshot? Are his reflexes on QS's level? No. Irrelevant.
Let's see what Slade has to say about that:
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/batgirl004-09.jpgNow let's see what one of the most powerful Titans has to say about it:
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/TheTitans22p17.jpgEither way, I edited once I decided that wasn't even worth responding to.lol, Look above at the post^^
How is any of that relevant? So they get hit in fights, yeah. Has nothing to do with the fact that despite their ability to dodge bullets, they can't seem to evade Deadshot. What I'm saying is:
It has nothing to do with bullets. It has everything to do with Deadshot.