Deadshot v.s. Captain America

Started by namorsubby8 pages

Originally posted by darthgoober
I noticed it was an off example right as you did evidently(just look at the times of our post), but I'll respond to the rest shortly.

EDIT

I'm officially lost as to which example you're referencing.

EDIT AGAIN.

Oh. You're refering to your statement about QS. I thought you meant what I posted from Donna/Slade.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I do believe I specifically said......well, i can show you better than can tell you:

And if you'll notice, I also mentioned Cap's shield in regards to Cap being bulletproof. What I think is really funny is that you'd prefer to run with the inconsistancy in regards to their suits. Personally, I consider both Cap and Bat's suits to be bulletproof, period(within reason of course, I know there are armor piercing bullets and all). Normal bullets get through sometimes because some writers take the stance that their suits are spandex, but when the armor's been written in and addressed multiple times the times it should be considered present for in a forum fight.

Originally posted by namorsubby
How does the fact that he has tagged QS have anything to do with the fact that he can be tagged by Deadshot? Are his reflexes on QS's level? No. Irrelevant.

Well if you're only basing off the fact that Deadshot has shot people that can dodge bullets do I really need to point out all the who can dodge bullets that have been shot by Bullseye or even the Punisher?

Originally posted by namorsubby
Let's see what Slade has to say about that:
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/batgirl004-09.jpg

Now let's see what one of the most powerful Titans has to say about it:
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/ac358/Deathstroke91/TheTitans22p17.jpg

Either way, I edited once I decided that wasn't even worth responding to.lol, Look above at the post^^


Them speaking poetically doesn't alter reality. How many fights do you have posted in the respect thread and did you leave any out? And by "not worth responding to" you meant "I can't successfully counter this", right?

Originally posted by namorsubby
How is any of that relevant? So they get hit in fights, yeah. Has nothing to do with the fact that despite their ability to dodge bullets, they can't seem to evade Deadshot. What I'm saying is:

It has nothing to do with bullets. It has everything to do with Deadshot.


It's relevant because you're trying to drag Cap down via Bullseye/shovel when your point about Deadshot could equally be applied to him.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And if you'll notice, I also mentioned Cap's shield in regards to Cap being bulletproof. What I think is really funny is that you'd prefer to run with the inconsistancy in regards to their suits. Personally, I consider both Cap and Bat's suits to be bulletproof, period(within reason of course, I know there are armor piercing bullets and all). Normal bullets get through sometimes because some writers take the stance that their suits are spandex, but when the armor's been written in and addressed multiple times the times it should be considered present for in a forum fight.

Well if you're only basing off the fact that Deadshot has shot people that can dodge bullets do I really need to point out all the who can dodge bullets that have been shot by Bullseye or even the Punisher?

Them speaking poetically doesn't alter reality. How many fights do you have posted in the respect thread and did you leave any out? And by "not worth responding to" you meant "I can't successfully counter this", right?

It's relevant because you're trying to drag Cap down via Bullseye/shovel when your point about Deadshot could equally be applied to him.

I don't think either of their suits are written as consistently completely bulletproof. Therefore I consider them mostly bulletproof. Either way Deadshot is most likely packing armor piercing bullets. They got through Slade's suit(which has deflected helicopter bullets).

Those guys aren't Deadshot. The thing i've been trying to emphasize it that it has never really mattered whether the person facing Lawton is a known bullet-dodger, or even faster than bullets. Ask Slade, Ask the one dead super-speedster(Jaculi, whom he killed), Ask anyone.

Poetically?

Of course Slade was speaking sarcastically, but I'm pretty sure both meant to say " The Titans have been defeated by Slade alot".Would you not agree? Many things are mentioned by characters that seem to have occured off-panel. Maybe several defeats aren't even on paper. One thing is apparent, at least from those statements. The Titans and Slade are in agreeance that Slade has beaten them a lot.

I think I just proved it. I'd call that "successfully countering" it. But really, the statement was literally not worth responding to, because it is so obviously untrue. No sarcasm intended.

I'm not draggin Cap anywhere. It happened didn't it?

You're talking about melee fights. I'm talking about the fact that BS can throw a shovel as a projectile fast enough to nail Cap, but you still somehow believe that Floyd won't tag him with a bullet.

this is in repsonses to Bullseye hitting capt with a shovel

your trying to pretend bullseye throws objects on a human level when he does not. He throw a friggin paper air plane so fast it knocked out DD. The guy throws objects like guns firer bullets. There is nothing human about the way or speed in which he can launch items.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I don't think either of their suits are written as consistently completely bulletproof. Therefore I consider them mostly bulletproof. Either way Deadshot is most likely packing armor piercing bullets. They got through Slade's suit(which has deflected helicopter bullets).

I never said it was written that way consistantly, in fact I specifically talked about some writers treating them like spandex. Now I don't know for sure how durable Batman's suit is portrayed, but Cap has multiple instances of bullets bouncing off his armor, and I consider that to be pretty "bulletproof". Not as an absolute of course, but close enough to qualify to the laymen.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Those guys aren't Deadshot. The thing i've been trying to emphasize it that it has never really mattered whether the person facing Lawton is a known bullet-dodger, or even faster than bullets. Ask Slade, Ask the one dead super-speedster(Jaculi, whom he killed), Ask anyone.

But they have marksmanship feats right on par with his.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Poetically?

Of course Slade was speaking sarcastically, but I'm pretty sure both meant to say " The Titans have been defeated by Slade alot".Would you not agree? Many things are mentioned by characters that seem to have occured off-panel. Maybe several defeats aren't even on paper. One thing is apparent, at least from those statements. The Titans and Slade are in agreeance that Slade has beaten them a lot.


And he has defeated them a lot, but you asked for specifics in regards to Cap.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I think I just proved it. I'd call that "successfully countering" it. But really, the statement was literally not worth responding to, because it is so obviously untrue. No sarcasm intended.

It's not obviously untrue, because there isn't a feat you can post for Slade that I can't match/exceed with a feat from Cap.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I'm not draggin Cap anywhere. It happened didn't it?

You're talking about melee fights. I'm talking about the fact that BS can throw a shovel as a projectile fast enough to nail Cap, but you still somehow believe that Floyd won't tag him with a bullet.


That's Bullseye for you, he's portrayed a lot like Deadshot as far as accuracy goes. He's also shot at Cap, and Cap dodged/blocked.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
this is in repsonses to Bullseye hitting capt with a shovel

your trying to pretend bullseye throws objects on a human level when he does not. He throw a friggin paper air plane so fast it knocked out DD. The guy throws objects like guns firer bullets. There is nothing human about the way or speed in which he can launch items.

I'm not pretending anything.

If you think BS can hit Cap with a shovel, but Deadshot can't hit him with bullets, then you're incorrect. That's the only point I'm making.

Deadshot is DC's BS with guns. The most consistently impressive human street-leveler in DC doesn't stand a chance at evading Floyd without some subconscious crock of a plot device. That should tell you something.

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's Bullseye for you, he's portrayed a lot like Deadshot as far as accuracy goes. He's also shot at Cap, and Cap dodged/blocked.
They've encountered each other?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
They've encountered each other?

Bullseye and Cap? Yeah, but I forget what issue.

^ crackers

I are disappoint.

You can remake that Revamped Cap Respect Thread.

If I'm a third done with my Revamped Hulk Respect Thread, you can get back on top of that sh1t.

When did BE hit Cap with a shovel? Sounds PIS.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
When did BE hit Cap with a shovel? Sounds PIS.

Streets of poison, after Cap had a complete blood transfusion that removed the SSS.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Streets of poison, after Cap had a complete blood transfusion that removed the SSS.
Always heard about this, and always wanted to know: How was it ever restored?

Originally posted by namorsubby
Always heard about this, and always wanted to know: How was it ever restored?

His body regenerates it over time.

Originally posted by darthgoober
His body regenerates it over time.
So it essentially just came back naturally?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
When did BE hit Cap with a shovel? Sounds PIS.

Streets of Posion arc. BE threw a torchlight in his face that blinded Cap and threw the shovel at the same time.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Streets of poison, after Cap had a complete blood transfusion that removed the SSS.

I have the arc it was before, but BE got Cap by blinding him first.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I'm not pretending anything.

If you think BS can hit Cap with a shovel, but Deadshot can't hit him with bullets, then you're incorrect. That's the only point I'm making.

Deadshot is DC's BS with guns. The most consistently impressive human street-leveler in DC doesn't stand a chance at evading Floyd without some subconscious crock of a plot device. That should tell you something.

Unless Deadshot is carrying a torchlight no he won't.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4583/fight388sa.gif
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3349/fight394wg.gif
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/985/fight406lp.gif

that was a cool fight

old school cap was the shiznit.. not like now.

^ sam

Originally posted by Deadline

Unless Deadshot is carrying a torchlight no he won't.

No, He'll just need his guns 🙄

The notion that Cap could completely evade Floyd the entire match is laughable when you take into account that he's already proven he can hit much faster individuals. That, and Cap has been hit with bullets before.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ sam

Seconded.